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Post by stamphinger on May 1, 2019 21:10:24 GMT
I haven't seen a thread specifically for U.S. bullseyes and cancels on stamps so I am starting this one. If there is already one I missed, perhaps one of the moderators could move this.
Back when I was collecting U.S. stamps, I used to get American Philatelic Society's U.S. used sales circuit books. A person could find a lot of interesting cancels on stamps in those books and I took to accumulating them. This page of Transportation Coil multiples is a result of those purchases. The stamps on this page all date from mid-to late-1980s and that was a period of messy cancels by the USPS. Seems like the cancel dials were always over inked and never cleaned, and it got worse when the postal service moved away from local cancels to distribution center cancels and then spray-on's.
Anyone else collect cancels on U.S. stamps?
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Post by renden on May 1, 2019 23:52:31 GMT
stamphingerThanks for showing some US cancels that I find different from the majority of the ones I have on my US stamps.....I call them "wave" cancels and they do not match the cancels we have in Canada - this not meant to be a "negative" or "critic" since you are not responsible for the ones I have and........yes "postmarks" are very popular among our members and it would take a page to name them. My friend from Norway, blaamand has a specialist collection of "postmarks" and "forerunner postmarks" and I am happy to send to him anything I find interesting as I do not collect them - it is a "specialty" - Good post and thanks !! René Canada....land of nice postmarks
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Post by stamphinger on May 2, 2019 13:10:00 GMT
Hi Renden:
Thanks for your comments on my U.S. cancels page. I agree, Canada's cancels, generally, are much cleaner and better placed than those of the U.S. I have a couple of pages of attractive Canadian cancels that I'll put up on the world-wide postmarks thread in the near future.
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Post by stamphinger on May 2, 2019 16:01:01 GMT
Continuing with some U.S. machine cancel bullseyes, here is a page of cancels dating from 1936 to 1979. They are much "cleaner" than those in the previous post. SH
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Post by stamphinger on May 6, 2019 12:28:19 GMT
In addition to bullseye cancels I collect miscellaneous cancels such as those on this page that I called "classes-of-mail cancels." SH  |
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Post by stamphinger on May 13, 2019 19:52:10 GMT
Here is a page of cancels of the ubiquitous biplane on stamps from the "Air-Mail Saves Time" cancel. Moe Luff's catalog of U.S. slogan cancels lists variations of this cancel in use between 1924 and 1946. There are several studies of this cancel identifying at least three different type of the biplane. I have not attempted to identify the biplane cancels I have, but looking at this page, I note two types. One type has four lines in the cowling and three lines between the wheels. There are also differences between the shape of the wing tips and in the detail of the wing struts and flying wires. This cancel would make an interesting sub-collection, but I no longer have a good source of canceled U.S. stamps, or the time and desire to pursue the different types. Maybe other cancel collectors have better examples of the different types and will post them here. SH  Here are two types side by side. The stamps on the left have four lines in the cowling, three lines between the wheels, round wing tips, less clearly defined wing struts and flying wires, and bolder horizontal shading lines in the wings. Those on the right have fewer lines in the cowling, only one line between the wheels more rectangular wing tips, more clearly defined wing struts and flying wires, and finer horizontal shading lines in the wings.  |
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Post by renden on May 13, 2019 20:39:08 GMT
I am impressed as with the XXXXXX stamps I have of the US I did not see these nice cancels -  |
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Post by stamphinger on Jun 2, 2019 17:13:25 GMT
Cancels on U.S. stamps were the first that I began to set aside and save. This page from my Iowa collection probably dates back to the late 1980s. My objective then was to acquire enough readable cancels to adequately fill a page.
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 20, 2019 11:37:37 GMT
Here's a Scarce one I just bought . Way out in the Pacific, the tiny island of Ta'u in the Samoa Archipelago was acquired by the US in 1904 following the partition of Samoa by the treaty of Berlin 1899. Needless to say when Germany got the Western Group ( Upolu, Savaii, manono and Apolilma) and The US got the smaller eastern islands ( Tutuila with Pago pago, Ta'u, Ofu, Olesega), the Samoans were not consulted!  |
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Post by dgdecker on Jun 20, 2019 15:02:08 GMT
Stamphinger, thanks for posting an interesting thread. Since I have become a member of the Forum, I realized many people are interested in cancels. I never knew how many collectors who specialize in this field. I am now paying closer attention to postmarks. I know set a few aside to give to a friend who enjoys them. What he does not take, I am keeping and in time would like to trade of give away when I have a supply.
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 20, 2019 19:41:56 GMT
, I realized many people are interested in cancels. I never knew how many collectors who specialize in this field. I am now paying closer attention to postmarks. david The longer you collect , then experience tells you when something unusual and better turns up. After 60+ years of world wide collecting there are still things I ve never seen before. The early TA’U postmark is worth 1000 times more than the stamp! And turns a common 2cent item into a $25 little treasure😀 If it had been a complete cover I’d have paid $100. |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 30, 2019 17:12:52 GMT
The November 19, 2018 Postal Update from Linn's Stamp News contained a short article about a cancellation test being conducted in Northern Virginia. The test cancel had a much finer dot pattern but the sprayed-on wave pattern likely won't be appreciated by collectors as it almost completely obliterates the stamp. Thus far I've received two mailings with this cancellation. The coil stamp on the February mailing is Ashton-Potter's (APU) serpentine die cut 11 horizontal (Scott 5342) and the one on the June piece is APU's booklet stamp perf. 10-3/4 x 11-1/4 on 2 or 3 sides (Scott 5344). The cancellation made it difficult to find the micro printing to differentiate between the APU stamps and those printed by Banknote Corporation of America (Scott 5343 (coil) and 5345 (booklet)).  |
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Post by darkormex on Jun 30, 2019 17:50:28 GMT
The November 19, 2018 Postal Update from Linn's Stamp News contained a short article about a cancellation test being conducted in Northern Virginia. The test cancel had a much finer dot pattern but the sprayed-on wave pattern likely won't be appreciated by collectors as it almost completely obliterates the stamp. I use pure citrus to remove US self-adhesive stamps from paper. The sprayed-on postmarks smear very easily with the application of pure citrus and, if one is not careful give an overall gray sheen to the surface of the front of the stamp just because of the process of removal from paper. This wave postmark, I can see right now, will be a disaster if one uses pure citrus like I do. |
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 30, 2019 23:46:06 GMT
The cancellation made it difficult to find the micro printing to differentiate between the APU stamps and those printed by Banknote Corporation of America (Scott 5343 (coil) and 5345 (booklet)). That is one awful, awful cancel! |
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Post by stamphinger on Jul 1, 2019 15:55:50 GMT
Yup, it sure is! But, it sure gets the job done. Yet, it might look appropriate on the U.S. dollar value "wave" stamps.
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Post by stamphinger on Jul 6, 2019 22:37:08 GMT
Here is a page from my Cancels on U.S. Stamps collection, these being first-day of issue cancels. They obviously were soaked off cover at some point in the past. I found them in an APS sales circuit book.
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Post by stamphinger on Aug 11, 2019 20:06:45 GMT
Another page from my Cancels on U.S. Stamps collection. This one cancels on piece. The Butte, Montana, cancel is, indeed, thorough! Per Wikipedia, the USS Black Hawk (AD-9), was a destroyer tender. It served in the Far East from 1922 until 1942 when it was sent to Alaskan waters. The bottom block of four was canceled at Chefoo, China. Below is a photo of Black Hawk at Chefoo tending six destroyers. The photo is from the U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph., Online Image: 95KB; 740 x 585 pixels. Don StampHinger   |
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Post by mikeclevenger on Aug 12, 2019 9:13:39 GMT
SH Here are two types side by side. The stamps on the left have four lines in the cowling, three lines between the wheels, round wing tips, less clearly defined wing struts and flying wires, and bolder horizontal shading lines in the wings. Those on the right have fewer lines in the cowling, only one line between the wheels more rectangular wing tips, more clearly defined wing struts and flying wires, and finer horizontal shading lines in the wings. These are amazing! I love the airplanes on airmail stamps. You have now given me a new challenge to find them all like this for my book. Thanks.
Mike.
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Post by stamphinger on Aug 12, 2019 11:40:58 GMT
Hi Mike:
Not only are cancels on stamps fun to collect, but they are for the most part cheaply priced. I rarely pay more than 50 cents for one and many are only 10 or 25 cents.
Don StampHinger
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 24, 2019 14:27:25 GMT
I received this in yesterday's mail -- it was another cover that I have recently received with the spray-on postmark but absent the killer. Is this a growing trend or just an anomaly? It wasn't until I had scanned the cover that I noticed that the stamp used was not a "Forever" type but rather was a "First Class" booklet stamp issued in 2006 with a value of 39 cents (Scott 3973; serpentine die cut 10-1/2 x 10-3/4)). Unlike the Forever stamps, the First Class stamps don't increase in value as rates change. |
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Post by de61 on Aug 24, 2019 15:16:46 GMT
I received this in yesterday's mail -- it was another cover that I have recently received with the spray-on postmark but absent the killer. Is this a growing trend or just an anomaly? Certainly a peeve of mine. Over the past 2 years, I estimate about 60% of stamped mail I receive from within the U.S. receives no cancel whatsoever. On multiple-franked items, it is often the up-and-down pen swipe with a ball point pen, if the items are cancelled at all. The USPS may think it is doing us a favor by not canceling mail with older stamps affixed, but, for collectors, they are only creating unused stamps with no gum, reducing their desirability as collectibles. As a result, I now welcome the spray-on postmarks if they catch the stamp.
At least the foreign postal services still cancel their mail. I have never received a franked item from outside the U.S. without the stamps being cancelled.
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Post by stanley64 on Sept 22, 2019 7:53:40 GMT
Does this count as a dinosaur stamp? An interesting cancel nonetheless and I like the promotion of the hobby...
25 Cents Flag & Yosemite (Scott No.2280)
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Post by stanley64 on Sept 22, 2019 8:29:29 GMT
Thanks for sharing stamphinger ! I especially like the transportation coil series you started the thread with as these are a current interest of mine... 17 Cent Electric Auto Plate 3 (Scott No.1906) Postmark San Bernadino CA, * MAR 1988
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Post by stamphinger on Sept 22, 2019 12:16:02 GMT
Hi Stanley64: That's a perfect placement of the dinosaur, a real beauty! I have a similar dolphin cancel with a stamp collecting slogan. It is on this page I did several years ago.
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Post by stanley64 on Sept 23, 2019 8:07:02 GMT
I too have the dolphin cancel but alas, not on a numbered-coil issue :-(
and although not quite Gary Larson material, I do find the concept of a dolphin jumping over a mountain in Yosemite National Park comical if not ironic.
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Post by stanley64 on Sept 23, 2019 8:41:09 GMT
Next month is Energy Awareness Month and here are a couple of slogan cancels spotlighting the event...
The stamps themselves are of the 2012 Lancaster County, PA issue (Scott No. C150) paying the then international rate up to 1 ounce.
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Post by stanley64 on Sept 23, 2019 8:58:03 GMT
Last of the slogan cancels is this one and not the best printing; if someone has a better copy, please do share as this version is difficult to read and know what is being promoted...
The stamp itself is from the 37¢ Flag issue (Scott No. 3632)
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Post by stamphinger on Sept 29, 2019 0:40:25 GMT
From my collection of cancels on U.S. stamps, a page of blocks of four canceled at Dubuque, Iowa.
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Post by philatelia on Oct 21, 2019 13:15:12 GMT
An interesting USA cancel, ummmm ET go home??  |
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Post by de61 on Oct 22, 2019 18:19:51 GMT
I received this in yesterday's mail -- it was another cover that I have recently received with the spray-on postmark but absent the killer. Is this a growing trend or just an anomaly?
Should we consider this to be a valiant effort?
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