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Post by tobben63 on Aug 7, 2019 14:37:09 GMT
Today I got a small Belgian lot in the post. I bought it for the medallion stamps.   And this was a spot on lot. I nice no4 (cat value €60,-) (I paid nok 50,-) for the lot incl. sending   A not to good image but it is a watermark 1 with square around double L. This was missing in the collection |
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Post by blaamand on Aug 7, 2019 18:15:30 GMT
Congratulations on your find Torbjørn! I have the feeling that no. 3 & 4 are more scarce compared to the ones without the frame than the catalog value suggests. I had hundreds of the imperf medallions, from lots of different sources, but still found only one with this watermark. And let me add, I would be just as happy about those marvelous postmarks!!! That 'losenges du point' with numeral '118' will sit very nicely on your newly required Postmark album pages  |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 7, 2019 18:59:32 GMT
Yeas there was a good number of nice postmarks. I might bay a new printer tomorrow and start print Belgium pages and mount stamps. Then I will mount the remaining stamps with numeral postmarks on the special page. Here is a good scan of "118" but as you see blaamand the stamp is not perfect. Click on stamp for a large copy.  |
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Post by blaamand on Aug 7, 2019 19:04:01 GMT
I was thinking about the '118' postmark and not the stamp itself - and the postmark is close to perfect! Condition not the best, agreed - but give Leopold a good bath and at least he will look more happy  And if your'e still not satisfied - Leopold can find a good foster home in Arendal  Enjoy the Belgium album pages and postmark pages, glad you liked them tobben63. |
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Post by classicalstamps on Aug 7, 2019 19:08:11 GMT
For those interested, here is a list of the "point postmarks" used in Belgium from 1864 - 1873.
#118 is "Etalle"
1 Aeltre
2 Aerschot
3 Alost
4 Alveringhem
5 Amay
6 Andenne
7 Cureghem
8 Annevoie
9 Ans
10 AnthÈe
11 Antoing
12 Anvers
13 Ardenne
14 Ardoye
15 Arendonck
16 Arlon
17 Assche
18 Assesse
19 Ath
20 Aubel
21 Audenaerde
22 Auvelais
23 Avelghem
24 Aywaille
25 Anvaing
26 Assenede
27 Attert
21 Barry (Maulde)
29 Barvaux
30 Basecles
31 Bastogne
32 Beaumont
33 Beauraing
34 Beeringen
35 Beloeil
36 Berchem (Audenaerde)
37 Bertrix
38 Beveren
39 Beverloo
4O Bilsen
41 Binche
42 Blankenherghe
43 Blaton
44 Bloemendaele
45 Boitsfort
46 Boom
47 Boortmeebeek
48 Bouillon
49 Boussu
50 Bouwel
51 Bracquegnies
52 Braine-l'Alleud
53 Braine-le-Comte
54 Brasschaet
55 Brecht
56 BrÈe
57 Brugelette
58 Bruges
59 Bruly (Le)
60 Bruxelles
61 Ixelles
62 Bruxelles (Midi)
63 Bruxelles (Nord)
64 Molenbeek
65 Buggenhout
66 Burdinne
67 Basel
68 Baudour
69 Berchem-lez-Anvers
70 Anvers (station)
71 Calmpthout
72 Cappelle-au-Bois
73 Cappellen
74 Celles
75 Cerfontaine
76 Champlon
77 Charleroi
78 Ch‚telineau
79 Chaudfontaine
80 ChÍnÈe
81 ChiËevres-Attres
82 Chimay
83 Ciney
84 Comblain-au-Pont
85 Comines
86 Contich
87 Courtrai
88 Court-St-Etienne
88 Cortenberg
89 Couvin
90 Cruyshautem
91 Couillet
92 ChÈerain
92 Gouvy
93 Denderleeuw
94 Deynze
95 Diest
96 Dinant
97 Dison
98 Dixmude
99 Dolhain-Limbourg
100 Dottignies
101 Dour
102 DuffeL
103 Doel
104 Deux-Acren
105 Ecaussinnes
106 Eecke
106 Nazareth
107 Eeckeren
108 Eecloo
109 EghezÈe
110 Enghien
111 Engis
112 EnsivaL
113 ErezÈe
114 Erquelinnes
115 Ertvelde
116 Esneux
117 Esschen
118 Etalle
119 Evergem
120 Esemael
121 Ernegem
122 Haine-Saint-Pierre
123 Farciennes
124 Feluy-Arquennes
125 Fexhe-le-Haut-Clocher
126 FlÈmalle
127 FlÈron
128 Fleurus
129 Floreffe
130 Florennes
131 Florenville
132 Fontaine-L'EvÍque
133 Fosses
134 Fraiture
135 Frameries
136 Frasnes
137 Fumes
138 Forest
139 Gand (station)
140 Gand (Saint-Sauveur)
141 Gand
142 Gavere
143 Gedinne
144 Gembloux
145 Genappe
146 Gerpinnes
147 Gheel
148 Ghistelles
149 Gilly
150 Givry
151 Glons
152 Gosselies
153 Gosselies-Courcelles
154 Gouy-lez-Pieton
155 Gramont
156 Grez-Doiceau
157 Grupont
158 Gysegem
159 Gingelom
160 Gand (faubourg de Bruges)
161 HennuyËres
162 Habay-la-Neuve
163 Hal
164 Hameau
164 Ham-sur-Heure
165 Hamme
166 Hamme-Mille
167 Hannut
168 Hansbeke
169 Harlebeke
170 Hasselt
171 Havelange
172 Havinnes
173 HavrÈ
174 Heer
175 Herbesthal
176 Herck-la-Ville
177 Herenthals
178 Herstal
179 Herve
180 Herzele
181 Heyst-op-den-Berg
182 Hoogstraeten,
183 Hotton
184 Houffalize
185 Hougaerde
186 Huy
187 Haecht
188 Haversin
188 GrivegnÈe
189 Hooglede
190 HÈron
191 Ingelmunster
192 Iseghem
193 Isque
194 Jamoigne
195 Jauche
196 Jemappes
197 Jemeppe
198 Jodoigne
199 Jumet
200 Jurbise
201 Lille-St-Hubert
201 Neerpelt
202 Laeken
203 La Hulpe
204 La Louviere
205 Lanaeken
206 Landen
207 Langemarck
208 Lanklaer
209 Laroche
210 LÈau
211 Lede
212 Lennicq-Saint-Quentin
213 Lens
214 Lessines
215 Leuze
216 Lichtervelde
217 LiÈge
218 Lierre
219 Ligne
220 Lillo
221 Lodelinsart
222 Lokeren
223 Londerzeel
224 Loochristy
225 Looz
226 Louvain
227 Luttre
228 Landegem
229 Loth
230 LiÈge (Guillemins)
231 Maeseyck
232 Maldegem
233 Malines
234 Manage
235 Marbais
236 Marbehan
237 Marche
238 Marchienne-au-Pont
239 Mariembourg
240 Mariemont
241 Martelange
242 Melle
243 Menin
244 Merbes-le-Chateau
245 Messancy
246 Messines
247 Mettet
248 Meulebeke
249 Moerbeke
250 Moll
251 Momignies
252 Mons
253 Mont-St-Guibert
254 Montzen
255 Moorslede
256 Morialme
257 Mouscron
258 Moustier
259 Merckem
260 Merchtem
261 Godarville
262 Gammerages
263 NamËche
264 Namur
265 Nandrin
266 NÈchin
267 Nederbrakel
268 Nessonvaux
269 Neufchateau
270 Nieuport
271 Ninove
272 Nivelles
273 Nylen
273 Neufvilles
274 Nevele
275 Neuve-Eglise
276 Obourg
277 Ocquier
278 Oosterzeele
279 Oostmalle
280 Oostvleteren
281 Orchimont
282 Oreye
283 Ostende
284 Ottignies
285 Hamoir
286 Lommel (Overpelt)
287 Oostcamp
288 Jupille
289 Paliseul
290 P‚turages
291 Peer
292 Pepinster
293 Peruwelz
294 Perwez
295 Philippeville
296 Plasschendaele
297 Poix
298 Pommeroeul
299 Poperinghe
300 Puers
301 Putte
302 Pont-‡-Celles
303 Quaregnon
304 QuÈvy
305 QuiÈvrain
306 Ransart
307 Rance
308 Rebaix
309 Libramont
310 Renaix
311 Rhisne
312 Rochefort
313 Roclenge
314 Le Roeulx
315 Roulers
316 Rousbrugge
317 Roux
318 Ruysbroeck
319 Ruysselede
320 Saventhem
321 Sainte-CÈcile
322 Saint-Ghislain
323 Saint-Gilles-Waes
324 Saint-Hubert
325 Saint-Josse-ten-Noode
326 Saint-Laurent
327 Saint-LÈger
328 Saint-Nicolas
329 Saint-Trond
330 Santhoven
331 Selzaete
332 Seraing
333 Sibret
334 Silly
335 Sivry
336 Soignies
337 Sombreffe
338 Sommergem
339 Sottegem
340 Spa
341 Staden
342 Stavelot
343 Stekene
344 Sweveghem
345 Syngem
346 Schellebelle
347 Scheldewindeke
348 Tamines
349 Tamise
350 Templeuve
351 Termonde
352 Ternath
353 Tervueren
354 Terwagne
355 Theux
356 Thielen
357 Thielt
358 Thourout
359 Thuin
360 Thulin
361 Tirlemont
362 Tongres
363 Tournai
364 Tronchiennes
365 Trooz
366 Tubize
367 Turnhout
368 Tessenderloo
369 Uccle
370 Taintegnies
371 St-Gilles (Bruxelles)
372 Roisin
373 Vertryck
374 Verviers
375 Vielsalm
376 Vierres
377 Vieux-Dieu
378 Vilvorde
379 Virton
380 VisÈ
381 Villers-la-Ville
382 Wasmes
383 Wacken
384 Waereghem
385 Waerschoot
386 Waesmunster
387 Walcourt
388 Wandre
389 Waremme
390 Warnant-Dreye
391 Warneton
392 Waterloo
393 Wavre
394 Weert-St-Georges
395 Wellin
396 Werbomont
397 Wervicq
398 Wespelaer
399 Westcappelle
400 Westerloo
401 Wetteren
402 Willebroeck
403 Winghe-St-Georges
404 Wuestwezel
405 Wyngene
406 Weerde
407 Wolverthem
408 Ypres
409 Yvoir
410 Zele
411 Jette
412 Jabbeke
413 LiÈge (Outre-Meuse)
414 Bruxelles (Rue de la Loi)
415 Flobecq
415 Bruxelles (chaussÈe Louvain)
416 Anvers-Bassins
416 Bruxelles (rue Rogier)
417 Bruxelles (Josaphat)
418 Lembecq
419 Saintes
420 Ghlin
421 Blandain
422 Bassilly
423 Ghislenghien
424 Bruxelles (Luxembourg)
425 La Pinte
426 Surice
427 Louvain (station)
428 Namur (station)
429 Braine-le-Ch‚teau
430 Olsene
431 Moerhout
432 OugrÈe
433 Corbeek-Loo
434 Malderen
435 Borgerhout
436 Merxem
437 Houdeng-Goegnies
438 Nimy
439 Harmignies
440 Vedrin
441 Estinnes-Houlchin
442 Jambes
443 Seneffe
444 Wevelghem
445 Heyst
446 Baesrode
447 Charleroy (faubourg)
448 Ledeberg
449 Schaerbeek
450 Cureghem (station)
451 Lincent
452 Remicourt
453 Rosoux-Goyer
454 Mons (station)
455 Bruxelles (rue Blaes)
AM.BR.AR. Ambulant Bruxelles-Arlon
E1 Ambulant-Est 1
E2 Ambulant-Est 2
E3 Ambulant-Est 3
E3B Ambulant-Est 3B
EIV Ambulant-Est 4
EV Ambulant-Est 5
N1 Ambulant-Nord 1
N2 Ambulant-Nord 2
01 Ambulant-Ouest 1
02 Ambulant-Ouest 2
03 Ambulant-Ouest 3
M1 Ambulant-Midi 1
M2 Ambulant-Midi 2
M3 Ambulant-Midi 3
M4 Ambulant-Midi 4
M5 Ambulant-Midi 5
M6 Ambulant-Midi 6
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Aug 7, 2019 19:27:41 GMT
Sweet Morten classicalstamps ! Once you've started, allow me to add - for anyone interested in collecting these postmarks, a lunatic (I know him all too well) has made custom pages for housing them  Don't understand why this sample image looks like a bag of s.. , they do look nice once printed out though! Let me know if interested, the 19 page pdf cover all Belgian numeral cancellations and matching ambulant postmarks. Cost is set at 0c. |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 16, 2019 23:43:15 GMT
I edited the title to reflect all firts 12 stamps of Belgium (all inperf) Today I watermarked every single one and put them in order (Using COB # without types for now) I have both thin and thick paper , which is easy to discern- ribbed... i either do not have a single one or I'm not sure what it s supposed to look like I lack No's 1, 5, and 9 completely, and 2,3 and 4 currently in limited supply but I think this is a good start for a study "group, especially 3 - 12 there are a couple which based on size, may be trimmed down perfs now comes the fine details part, and thank technology for scanners or I'd never be able to discern much of anything    |
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Post by renden on Aug 17, 2019 1:44:36 GMT
Bravo Stan stainlessb Any "dups" for the old guy in New Brunswick ?  René |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 17, 2019 2:58:52 GMT
renden no worries I got you covered once i figure what the" hay-ho-nobody-home" I'm doing. I have bids on a few things to strengthen my study "group' think of this as a work in progress i am almost complete with my Sage study and close to going to printed page. Sower still lacks a few pieces, but it is at a placve of temporary rest and all corner lettered red penny is close to done (for now) so I think this will be my next frontier before I take on Ceres and Napoleon! (still gathering) ....so much to do....so little time! (whoever originally said that was philosopher extraordinaire! they truly undersrtood the paradox of stamp collectors)
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 17, 2019 12:38:22 GMT
Nice study group there Stan. |
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Post by blaamand on Aug 17, 2019 15:37:36 GMT
stainlessb -Indeed!! Nice selection of Leopolds there - Enjoy
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 27, 2019 19:52:55 GMT
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 28, 2019 0:38:43 GMT
Jealous of all these great collections! I'm waiting for a set of imperf and perf medallions and a 20c epaulette in the post room right now... blaamand - I'd be interested in seeing that COB too if possible... Thanks, Chris |
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Post by blaamand on Aug 28, 2019 4:15:51 GMT
That's quite an understatement tobben63 I would say 'Lots' - very nice to! Are the top two ones with framed Watermark? cjoprey - I sent you a message |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 28, 2019 8:08:44 GMT
That's quite an understatement tobben63 I would say 'Lots' - very nice to! Are the top two ones with framed Watermark? cjoprey - I sent you a message I have not checked them yet. And I can't recall what it was described as, will check soon and tell. I just bought all from one seller from Belgium on Delcampe. |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 30, 2019 19:52:31 GMT
Michel BE 4By Scot BE 7 Yvert et Tellier BE 7 AFA number BE 4 Belgium BE 7A Watermark 2: two weaved capitals "L" without a frame, but with a pert of the surrounding letters "A". Normal, thick paper. MINISTERE DES TRAVAUX PUBLICS Hard to know witch A it is.  |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 30, 2019 20:15:25 GMT
Maybe it's just my eyes, but it looks like I can see the left leg of a "v" in the top right of the watermark, meaning it's the 1st "A" in travaux... |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 30, 2019 20:48:18 GMT
I think you are right cjopreyAnd the A is upside down so I think it must be the one that the arrow point at.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 1, 2020 22:39:29 GMT
i figured this a good place to post.... especially since I now know how to tell apart  20 centimes epaulette (No 2) COB mentions a plate I and plate II as I only have 3 examples, on one is missing one entire margin/frame line, buto I'm guessing these are Plate 1 as I do not see in the lower mrgins under GT and C, althpough the stamp on the left, the lower left corner looks like it might have been retouched. Between the two plates 2 and 2A there are a total of 10 nuances/shades. The two outside stamps look to me to be the same color/nuance although one on the right could use a bath... any comments welcome!!  |
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And if your'e still not satisfied - Leopold can find a good foster home in Arendal 
20 centimes epaulette (No 2) COB mentions a plate I and plate II as I only have 3 examples, on one is missing one entire margin/frame line, buto I'm guessing these are Plate 1 as I do not see in the lower mrgins under GT and C, althpough the stamp on the left, the lower left corner looks like it might have been retouched.