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Post by WERT on Sept 26, 2019 1:10:22 GMT
Hi guys Take a look at these couple of Scott 723 stamps.... Wonder why proof readers didn't stop the presses and make the obvious misaligned adjustment...Two stamps shifted to the left and to the right.
Robert
This is extreme shift to the left...
This is shift to the right
Here is where they got the idea for this Scott 723 stamp.
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Post by renden on Sept 26, 2019 12:39:35 GMT
WERT - Robert there seems to be a lot of those printing errors on Canadian stamps - I have to find my late dad's findings and scan one ! René btw great thread
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Post by renden on Sept 26, 2019 13:34:42 GMT
In 1972 they also did not have proof readers !! Here is "proof reading error" on Unitrade/Scott # 610 - Cornelius Krieghoff - Unitrade Canada Specialized 2019 writes that there are at leaast 24 varieties (constant) reported on this stamp. This "error" does show (too bad the cancel went over it on scan and FDC) - The plate inscription in all 4 corners incorrectly spells "Krieghoff" as "Kreighoff" as noted by my late dad in 1972 (his FDC with corner blck)
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Post by FDI on May 10, 2020 7:11:55 GMT
I'm presently doing a study on this stamp in order to find all 24 varieties. Each sheets were printed in 4 panes of 50. On the attached scan you can see that this stamp, over and above the 24 varieties, also brings the fluorescence varieties. I have also indicated two of the constant flaws that exists. The "Broken Door Frame" (all stamps in column 4 of every panes) and the "Extra Log" position 39 on pane #2. Modern Era stamps are fascinating when you go beyond the stamp itself.
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Post by renden on May 11, 2020 16:05:41 GMT
In the previous post (to yours) I had presented a proof reading mistake on plate inscriptions (all 4 corners) with Krieghoff being mispelled. It is not part of the 24 varieties in Unitrade 2020 but mentioned and my late dad had caught it easily (example scanned) Have you noticed this in one of your corner PBs ?? FDI ....btw what is your avatar ? René here is a better example of the mistake with his name on the plate inscription, not covered like in my previous scan Beryllium Guy FDI nikhil
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Post by stanley64 on May 12, 2020 14:59:34 GMT
Thanks for sharing René ( renden ); the misspelling is a constant error for all the corner blocks that I have seen including the matched set in my own collection. I am wondering if it being a constant printer's error is why it only gets a footnote in the Unitrade catalogue as opposed to being the twenty-fifth variety, hmm? It would interesting to see if the issue was ever printed with the corrected spelling of the artist's name - "Cornelius Krieghoff".
As it is though, I note the "broken door frame" variety in the two left stamps and "branch under sled" in the LR corner of the block that you have posted here - you may want to have another look. As well this block and its stamps, the 8c multi-coloured `Blacksmith's Shop', by Cornelius Krieghof, given the same position and the earlier mentioned varieties, may also contain an error with the Ottawa tagging.
You might want to pull out the black light...
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 15:26:47 GMT
Thanks for sharing René ( renden ); the misspelling is a constant error......It would interesting to see if the issue was ever printed with the corrected spelling of the artist's name - "Cornelius Krieghoff". NEVER SAWAs it is though, I note the "broken door frame" variety in the two left stamps Unitrade 610i of the block . As well this stamp, the 8c multi-coloured `Blacksmith's Shop', by Cornelius Krieghof, given the same position and the earlier mentioned variety, may also contain an error with the Ottawa tagging...it is untagged Stanley. So not a 610pi
You might want to pull out the black light...Done prior to posting
You are a great observer, Stanley stanley64 !! I am sure you looked at the other PB I put in this thread......no 610i there. I might even add, if you look at the right lower stamp of this PB......it has the "branch below sleigh" variety or 610v !!All in all our observations of this Krieghoff PB on cover shows 2 varieties.....610i and 610v + the spelling mistake on plate inscriptionStanley, we just had a very good day of flyspecking and am copying my flyspecker friend Robert, WERTRené
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 15:49:02 GMT
stanley64 I just put this cover in my Inventory and Custom CANADA 1 album- it is not a FDC but am sure the 2 varieties (+mispelling) puts it at a "more rare" cover..... René
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Post by stanley64 on May 12, 2020 16:13:13 GMT
It is all good René ( renden )! I too noticed the "branch under sled" and was updating my original post likely at the same time you were responding. The cover is a nice one and do not forget to check the tagging as you could have a triumvirate if you discover an anomaly with the Ottwawa tagging as well...
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 16:43:17 GMT
stanley64 I have 3 specimens of this stamp. 1 is a sole stamp on a FDC and is untagged. I also have a FD C with a PB, also untagged. The last one showed with the 2 varieties is also untagged. Unitrade mentions Winniped tagging as being used until 1972 - I have no varieties with Tagging like 610p etc (documented in Unitrade).... with the help of Robert WERT ....might learn other stuff René
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 17:05:31 GMT
I noted that stanley64 put a comment and link re: this Cornelius Krieghoff stamp/blocks etc. in another thread I figured this thread was a better one to continue the discussion. I did read the link on Stan's comment. In 1972, my late dad was well and very "sharp" in finding anomalies as he was a owner/publisher of a Newspaper - he read a lot and had bought several Stamp monthly publications. He never bought in quantity this stamp's PBs - he was happy with his FDCs (one stamp and PB) and noted by hand on a piece of paper the mistake in names (stamp vs plate inscription) and never anticipated that this would cause a market hike for said Plate Blocks in each corner - He never bought a sheet - though he bought other sheets Just thought I would bring some attention to 1972 and my late dad's collection of this particular item Unitrade 610 René
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Post by alanl on May 12, 2020 19:29:19 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on May 12, 2020 19:44:28 GMT
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 19:52:42 GMT
I commented in the old thread - Thanks ! René
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Post by tomiseksj on May 12, 2020 20:06:50 GMT
The images have all been restored (fortunately Brian's image host remains active). This thread deals with stamps other than that addressed in the Krieghoff thread so merging the two would produce a disjointed result.
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Post by renden on May 12, 2020 20:57:10 GMT
I agree after having a ree-look at each - good decision Thanks René tomiseksj
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Post by FDI on May 13, 2020 16:33:02 GMT
In the previous post (to yours) I had presented a proof reading mistake on plate inscriptions (all 4 corners) with Krieghoff being mispelled. It is not part of the 24 varieties in Unitrade 2020 but mentioned and my late dad had caught it easily (example scanned) Have you noticed this in one of your corner PBs ?? FDI ....btw what is your avatar ? René here is a better example of the mistake with his name on the plate inscription, not covered like in my previous scan Beryllium Guy FDI nikhil @ renden, I apologize for my late response. In regards to the misspelled Krieghoff on the inscription blocks, I have verified with Robin Harris from Unitrade and we are right in saying that there are no Premium for this variant because all of the inscription blocks have this error and this is why it is not part of the 24 variants. He confirmed this. Now in regards of my Avatar, from what I understand, it's a Canadian revenue/Tax stamp. I'm getting my Van Dam catalogue this week, so I should be able to identify it. FDI
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Post by renden on May 13, 2020 16:59:47 GMT
Thanks François FDI - That is what I suspected all along on the inscription mistake and as mentioned previously, it is not a variety but a curiosity !! It is also nice on the 2nd corner cover scan that there are 2 varieties present, also mentioned previously - René btw I will be waiting for the id of your Avatar LOL
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Post by FDI on May 13, 2020 17:33:38 GMT
The Krieghoff stamp was printed on sheets of 200 in 4 panes of 50 stamps each. Inscription blocks are untagged and blank corner blocks are tagged. There are also variations with the Fluorescence which will command a Premium in some occasions. I have started to map the varieties; refer to the attached grid and you will see what I mean. With the help of other experts I have mapped so far 13 of the 24 variants. I am now working on the other 11. I just bought a lot of 20 full sheets (at a very cheap price) and I'm just starting to go through them. Will keep you posted on my finds! For example: 1) the "Broken Door frame" occurs on every panes for all stamps in column 4, 2) the "Extra Log" occurs on pane #2, column 4, position #39. So the "Extra Log" will always be together with "Broken Door" variant. 3) the "Branch" below the sleigh occurs on pane #1, column 5, position 50 and so on and so forth. I hope this help. FDI
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Post by renden on May 13, 2020 17:48:09 GMT
Great stuff FDI François Keep us informed FYI you are right re: PBs and absence of Tagging. I found in album/inventory 2 used se-tenant 610p (tagged) from a blank corner (UR) block René
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Post by FDI on May 13, 2020 21:14:08 GMT
Thanks François FDI - That is what I suspected all along on the inscription mistake and as mentioned previously, it is not a variety but a curiosity !! It is also nice on the 2nd corner cover scan that there are 2 varieties present, also mentioned previously - René btw I will be waiting for the id of your Avatar LOL Rene renden, the mystery around my Avatar is no longer! It is a Medicine Revenue stamp #FM2 (Van Dam catalogue), used between 1909 and 1919. These were put on Medicine Bottles and medical packages. Not sure if they had a specific revenue or tax value i.e. 1c, 2c, etc., the catalogue doesn't say. I'll have to further investigate this one! Mystery solved! François
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Post by dgdecker on May 13, 2020 23:05:12 GMT
Rene renden , the mystery around my Avatar is no longer! It is a Medicine Revenue stamp #FM2 (Van Dam catalogue), used between 1909 and 1919. These were put on Medicine Bottles and medical packages. Not sure if they had a specific revenue or tax value i.e. 1c, 2c, etc., the catalogue doesn't say. I'll have to further investigate this one! Mystery solved! François FDI , René Thanks for the info on these varieties I have kept many of these stamps with the plan to try to identify. The conversation between you and René has been most illuminating and informative. David
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Post by WERT on May 14, 2020 0:37:55 GMT
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