stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 4, 2019 17:45:01 GMT
I am finding a number of sellers US and abroad who do not (or will not) differentiate between color varieties. I am currently focused on France Peace and Commerce, J A Sage stamps and many of the denominations which have a primary catalogue number of "vert" (green" also have a secondary XXa vert fonce (dark green), yet many items offered for sale when asked is it green or dark green , the reply is "we sell everything as green....."
Are we such an obscure group of specialized collectors? or is it perhaps a bit too subject to individual abilities to discern color (which most of the catalogues offer little in the way of photos of the different shades
so I continue to acquire more green stamps with hopes of getting a noticeable difference in 'shade'
The Type II Maury 5c has many shades.... of yes, you guessed it ...green...
That's what makes this so fun as well as frustrating at times.
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jpotx113
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Post by jpotx113 on Nov 4, 2019 18:12:23 GMT
I almost posted about shades yesterday. I've been trying to classify shades in some older definitives from Belgium using my old Wonder Color Gauge. I've come to the same conclusion that I had nearly 20 years ago: that tool is basically worthless!
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renden
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Post by renden on Nov 4, 2019 18:30:37 GMT
Are we such an obscure group of specialized collectors? or is it perhaps a bit too subject to individual abilities to discern color (which most of the catalogues offer little in the way of photos of the different shades
The Type II Maury 5c has many shades.... of yes, you guessed it ...green... I suppose you are talking about the Sage 1876-78 Type II (N under U) 5c stamp, Stan (?) or Maury 75. I have: M75 IIB grn grnsh (1 good copy and 1 so so copy) M75b IIB vert noir sur vert (blackish grn on grn) M75a IIB grn on yellw grn (2 fine copies) Last week I ran into some Type IIs 5c and once they are all numbered (there is a 102/106) in there - also some 15c blue Type II.......once finished I will get back to you René |
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 4, 2019 18:36:52 GMT
Probably a simplistic answer but the differentiation into shades unless they are blindingly obvious
1. Is the domaine of the specialist collector with a number of duplicates and time to sort
2. Used stamps are particularly difficult as fading, accumulated grime, strong postmarks mean that colour seen is subjective and may not be the original shade any longer.
3 therefore sorting by shade is too much trouble for the general dealer who has to balance time against potential financial return be the original shade any longer.
4 only specialist dealers will have the stock and knowledge to be able to pick shades accurately and of course that means if they do diffentiate shades ..........expect to pay handsomely for their work
So for most collectors it means hunting through piles of duplicates a time consuming exercise which most dealers cannot contemplate
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 4, 2019 18:52:33 GMT
jpotx113 yes, I too have found my SG color guide not all that helpful...
renden Yes #75 I will try an arrange mine tonight (I have a lot) in some order of color range
vikingeck I was surprised that I got the response from a French dealer (in France even!) "specizaling" in.... but I suppose it is a matter of economics...though I would be willing to pay a premium (in some cases) just to have a know reference |
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Post by brightonpete on Nov 5, 2019 14:43:06 GMT
I have managed to pare down my collection of shades. Transitions on the left & the new Maui Jim's on the right! |
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 5, 2019 16:12:30 GMT
brightonpete I might be wise to do the same... which would be a single transistion pair...all done!
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Post by brightonpete on Nov 5, 2019 19:16:36 GMT
brightonpete I might be wise to do the same... which would be a single transistion pair...all done! The transitions are garbage. I never really liked them. I kept the frames as they are still good. I may replace the lenses with ordinary ones some day, foregoing the transitions - hate 'em, never again! |
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 5, 2019 19:29:03 GMT
I adapted to them pretty fast- also the vari-lense (didn't like the tri-focal approach...all I wear/have
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Post by casso on Nov 30, 2019 3:52:16 GMT
A few hours in the Full Sun outside, can and does of some issues, change the shade intensity.
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