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Post by philatelia on Dec 10, 2019 23:34:34 GMT
I’m not sure what to call these Canadian issues on my wantlists that have all the straight edges- perforation varieties? The corner copies seem to be difficult to find. They are fun to search for, though. There are similar USA issues that are often described as combination press issues. Were the Canadian issues printed on the same presses?
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Post by renden on Dec 11, 2019 0:01:09 GMT
philateliathese are not classic but common stamps of Canada - hope you have a catalog since I sent you a recent PM René
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Post by gmot on Dec 11, 2019 0:58:29 GMT
Yes, those would be from the edge (or corner) of the sheet, which for stamps like that issue - were printed without selvedge. Thus the corner ones would be least common, only 4 per sheet.
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Post by Ryan on Dec 11, 2019 2:41:20 GMT
Here's an example of how some of the Canadian stamps of that time were arranged on a sheet (or more precisely, a pane - a full sheet as printed is then chopped into panes before supplying them to post offices in the format seen below). Different printing presses (and different stamp dimensions) used different arrangements, but here's an issue which used the same style of pane format as the stamps you are showing. As you can see, there will only be 2 corner stamps with imperforate edges for every pane of 50 stamps - the other two corners have an attached selvedge piece. Image nabbed from an eBay listing. Other stamps from this era are also seen this way, like the 6 cent curling stamp or the 15 cent stamp that commemorated the far-too-exciting-for-me Alcock & Brown trans-Atlantic flight. Ryan
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Post by dgdecker on Dec 11, 2019 2:42:25 GMT
Unitrade Catalogue 2020 makes not mention of varieties without perfs. Printed in panes of 50. I think I found an explanation. Scott # 484 see text that is in the current catalogue. There May be other stamps out there like this. David
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Post by stanley64 on Dec 11, 2019 9:07:45 GMT
Here is another example of a Canadian stamp with the straight-edge, albeit somewhat earlier... Canada's 20¢ Special Delivery (Scott No. E3) Date of Issue - 29 June, 1927
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 9:12:04 GMT
To the original question, I simply describe them as you've suggested already, 'straight edged'.
Funny you're bringing this topic up today, just last night I were actually creating custom pages for housing straight edged 'varieties'. I'm doing this for the definitives only though, starting from the Admiral's and planning to stop at the Centennials.
Worth noting that some of the earlier definitives were also issued in booklets, which were also 'straight edged'. Because of this, the regular straight edged stamps might easily be confused for being the more sought after booklet singles. Supposedly they can be separated by looking at the cleaniness of the straight edge. Booklet singles will have clean-cut edges (like imperf stamps), whilst the regular stamps will have more rough edges as the result of the panes being separated by a rather coarse/worn guillotine. This was rather easy to identify for the Admiral's but can't say for later issues yet. Hope this is the case for later issues as well. (?)
I include spaces on my pages for the booklet singles (4 different) and 'regular' straight edged versions (8 different) side by side.
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 15:46:17 GMT
Here's a sample of one of my pages for housing the straight-edged stamps. Guess they cannot be considered varieties as such, but I still think of them almost like varieties, and certainly collectible!
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Post by nikhil on Dec 11, 2019 15:53:06 GMT
I read somewhere that the straight edged admirals were in the centre of the sheet 400 stamps which divided the sheet into 4 parts of 100 blaamand
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Post by nikhil on Dec 11, 2019 15:54:43 GMT
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 16:06:29 GMT
nikhil - thanks, that same website have been extensively visited already - valuable reference
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 11, 2019 16:16:02 GMT
I always take only perfed all around. I never looked at straight edge stamps as collectible - only unwanted orphans! It's an even quicker way to drain the pocketbook! One perfed all around has always been good enough for me, unless you are dealing with more recent issues that were only issued in booklet format. And only then as long as they are NOT self-adhesives!
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 16:22:54 GMT
I never looked at straight edge stamps as collectible - only unwanted orphans! Excellent - there are some weird collectors that can take care of those orphans, just send them to me and they will be loved
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 11, 2019 16:25:39 GMT
But I don't have any, blaamand! Otherwise I would!
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Post by WERT on Dec 11, 2019 16:34:54 GMT
philatelia...Like RENE said, very common print from BABN. Here is an example or a top right corner from one sheet. Robert
BTW..This is a Scott 484 and your posts are 484...Neat eh..??
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Post by philatelia on Dec 11, 2019 16:36:40 GMT
I never looked at straight edge stamps as collectible - only unwanted orphans! Excellent - there are some weird collectors that can take care of those orphans, just send them to me and they will be loved Ohhh ohhh!! Send them to “Mother Theresa’s Home for the Orphaned Straight Edges.” 😂
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 17:08:05 GMT
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Post by philatelia on Dec 11, 2019 17:46:18 GMT
When I was assigned to the electronics crib to repair circuit boards and such, the guys made this sign and hung it over my work bench ... hahaha
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Post by stanley64 on Dec 11, 2019 17:54:39 GMT
I always take only perfed all around. I never looked at straight edge stamps as collectible - only unwanted orphans! It's an even quicker way to drain the pocketbook! One perfed all around has always been good enough for me, unless you are dealing with more recent issues that were only issued in booklet format. And only then as long as they are NOT self-adhesives! I agree brightonpete and half-clothed orphans at that; the straight-edged stamps appear to be missing something and almost lopsided, but I can understand the appeal for some :-) For myself as well, the stamp needs to have its teeth all the way around and the few I do have are always in need of a new home...
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Post by renden on Dec 11, 2019 18:02:36 GMT
I always take only perfed all around. I never looked at straight edge stamps as collectible - only unwanted orphans! It's an even quicker way to drain the pocketbook! One perfed all around has always been good enough for me, unless you are dealing with more recent issues that were only issued in booklet format. And only then as long as they are NOT self-adhesives! I agree brightonpete and half-clothed orphans at that; the straight-edged stamps appear to be missing something and almost lopsided, but I can understand the appeal for some :-) For myself as well, the stamp needs to have its teeth all the way around and the few I do have are always in need of a new home...
I agree with you both !! brightonpete and stanley
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 20:14:00 GMT
I agree brightonpete and half-clothed orphans at that; the straight-edged stamps appear to be missing something and almost lopsided, but I can understand the appeal for some :-) For myself as well, the stamp needs to have its teeth all the way around and the few I do have are always in need of a new home...
I agree with you both !! brightonpete and stanley ...and I agree with you all I'm keeping only fully-perf copies in my 'basic' collection, as they are obviously nicer. Just find it interesting to take care of the 'orphans' as well, so keeping them as a side-collection.
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Post by renden on Dec 11, 2019 20:31:16 GMT
...and I agree with you all I'm keeping only fully-perf copies in my 'basic' collection, as they are obviously nicer. Just find it interesting to take care of the 'orphans' as well, so keeping them as a side-collection. But Jon blaamand .... you do not have Canada's Millennium collection of Souvenir Sheets of Four stamps....Unitrade 1818,a-b-c-d to 1834, a-b-c-d (17 S/S in all) or do you !? ....I get crazy once in a while René
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Post by blaamand on Dec 11, 2019 20:39:53 GMT
Haha, sorry Rene, you know I am terrible at Messenger....will send you pm
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Post by renden on Dec 11, 2019 20:43:32 GMT
I will check...... "terrible guy at messenger" - too busy LOL René
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Post by gmot on Dec 12, 2019 3:13:52 GMT
I kind of like the Canadian straight-edge stamps, also view them as "varieties". Never thought of collecting them, an intriguing idea for Canada issues, something I might take up - perhaps when done with upgrading my MH to MNH for Canada post-1900.
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Post by stanley64 on Dec 12, 2019 9:27:13 GMT
I may need to re-think this; as a side-collection or quasi-topical, the straight-edged stamps would make for an interesting page or two in the album or perhaps even a TSF article. To paraphrase Gertrude Stein, A Stamp Is A Stamp Is A Stamp...
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Post by blaamand on Dec 12, 2019 12:58:24 GMT
I may need to re-think this; as a side-collection or quasi-topical, the straight-edged stamps would make for an interesting page or two in the album Way to go! Once you get going, it will easily be more than a page or two, I have 6 pages for the Admiral's only - and love it! Good luck
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Post by philatelia on Dec 13, 2019 3:14:15 GMT
Well I’m going to dive right in and hunt down those straight edges ... here’s part of my new wishlist. I need a bazillion of these - but it will be a fun hunt. Cheap fun in many cases. (Fortunately)
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 13, 2019 3:24:46 GMT
if you look at my thread Wanted More Dead Than Alive under Canada you will find my ten year(so far) mission to collect these crazy straight edge admiral stamps.The two straight edge corner stamps are very elusive and while years ago I would have rejected them today I realize how unique they truly are and I guess you'd say rare.Think about the fact that out of every 400 stamp sheet only one of each corner appears.
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Post by dgdecker on Dec 13, 2019 3:39:52 GMT
Stanley64
I may need to re-think this; as a side-collection or quasi-topical, the straight-edged stamps would make for an interesting page or two in the album or perhaps even a TSF article. To paraphrase Gertrude Stein, A Stamp Is A Stamp Is A Stamp
The return address on the cover you posted is just a ten minute walk from me.
i think there had been a post office there, definitely long gone.
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