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Post by stainlessb on Dec 29, 2019 0:14:53 GMT
COB #26 or 42 #42 is listed as "yellow gun: in color. #26b is olive green. COB has the B and the period after BELGIQUE circled for #42, but I cannot tell what the difference is... not sure if this is a spot to examine fro variants? or if there is supposed be something diffenert between the older and newer stamp  anyone with more experience than I? (aka HELP!!!) |
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Dec 29, 2019 1:04:50 GMT
Hi Stanley ( stainlessb ) - some potential help from my Michel catalog. I'm by no means an expert so take any advice with caution!  As far as I can see, the COB #26 (Mi #23) comes in two colours with perf 15: yellow green and olive green. It is only perf 14 when it is grey green. They also seem to indicate there are imperf versions. COB indicates that the perf 15 stamps are medium to thick paper. COB #42 (Mi #39/#40) is only in perf 14, and can be either bronze green or olive (#39), or grey to light grey (#40). Based on this, and what I think I see on your scan from left to right is Mi #40 (light gray), Mi #23 (yellow green), Mi #23 (olive green) and Mi #23 (yellow green). I would however confirm by checking the perf counts on the green ones as they should all be 15 if I'm right. The olive one could be Mi #39 if the perf count is 14. Hope that helps! Chris   |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 29, 2019 1:47:28 GMT
Chris This helps quite a bit! I wish my 8 centimes was as bright... it is so faded out it almost looks like as blank stamp with a cancellation  I also see that there were some stamps printed with Aniline dyes....any tricks anyone can offer? Thanks Stan |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 29, 2019 18:05:29 GMT
Two questions:
I should know this, but I want to confirm- when dimensions are indicated (17 1/2 x 21 1/2 mm) this is the image itself from border to border? ( yes?!?)
COB describes #42 as 1 c réséda (gomme jaune) I am not finding any translation of réséda but (gomme jaune) translate to (yellow gum) which I am guessing refers t the gum (if I had a stamp that still had gum on the reverse... but réséda? the image in COB is a kin to.... baby poop green (sorry to anyone offended...)
42a is described simply as pâle (Gbl) and I find no reference for what (Gbl) might be an abbreviation for
Thanks for any thoughts
Stan
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Post by cjoprey on Dec 29, 2019 18:12:13 GMT
"réséda" is a plant in French - its color is a golden green. Hence I used "bronze green" which is also the term used in the Michel German. Link to a description of the plant: www.brc.ac.uk/plantatlas/plant/reseda-luteolaOn page 7 of COB it says "Gbl" stands for "Papier polyvalent, gomme blanche" - which I think translates to "multiuse paper, white gum". Hope that helps! Chris |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 29, 2019 19:08:15 GMT
I always like botany! Gbl we must have different versions, I found brief mention on page 11 but the text reads P5a Gbl = gomme blanch (Epacar) 1983  I'm trying to wrap my arms around the variations, and as with the France Sage series, I will likely need to pick one reference as the main source I notice COB lists for the 1 centime 1869-1883 Michel D-15 17 1/2 x 21 1/2 mm 26 Green 23A no color listed 26a Yellow-Green 23Aa Yellow-Green 26b Olive-Green 23Ab Olive -Green
Analine dye 1880-1883 on thinner paper* (no mention of dimension change....so stays the same?)
D-15
26A Gray-Green ?
D-14
26B Gray-Green 23C Grey-Green (aniline?)
and then 1884-1888
D-14 18 x 22 mm
42 Reseda (Bronze-Green) 39 Bronze-Green, Olive
42a Pale 40 Gray to light gray
using metric digital caliper, I get two thicknesses, 0.07mm and 0.08-9 mm with the thinner (thus far) seeming to be for 26B/23C
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Post by renden on Dec 29, 2019 19:40:24 GMT
Stan stainlessb..........you do like complicated stamps, varieties, differences in Catalogs etc.  That helps a lot of members so keep it going - René You work +++++....we benefit ! |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 29, 2019 22:00:25 GMT
renden we shall see... Here's what seems like a lot of time on one denomination..., I "think these are correct  I have 60+ more of the 1c grey... and the brown-gray #43b really hard to tell- I think stamps have a brownish tone, but once separated and then compared.... npt so much (which tells me I should walk away for a while) and the scan and there are these.... perf 14, 18 x 22mm but sure looks like more green and not gray-green when compared to the sheet 
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That helps a lot of members so keep it going - René