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Post by jamesw on Mar 17, 2020 3:28:04 GMT
Hello all I'd like some assistance from the experts on two New York postmarks on this UX7 postal card. It is a Canadian card sent from the Bank of Montreal in Brockville Ontario on April 1 1887 to the New York County National Bank in New York City. There is a Brockville Ont. CANADA postmark with 13 line round obliterator and The Bank of Montreal blue handstamp on the back. The other two postmarks I'm curious about. While I've seen samples of both online, there is no description.  The NY mark on the front reads P.O. 4-2-87 (the date) 7-1A N.Y. The mark on the back is similar, but reads C 4-2-87 10-A N.Y. I think I can assume the front mark is for the local post office (P.O.), perhaps a receiving cancel? But the one on the back with the C baffles me. Is that possibly a letter carrier's cancel? I know letter carriers in Canada had their own hand stamps for a while, but I don't know about their American counterparts. Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
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Post by jamesw on Mar 22, 2020 15:45:36 GMT
Gonna bump this one.
No one has any ideas or info?
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on Apr 19, 2020 9:52:58 GMT
Somewhere between here and there, the cover posted in an earlier thread here received a transit mark, does anyone recognise the cancel?
Ok, it is not quite a Londonbus1 riddle, but as individuals ponder the cancel from jamesw 's posting above, I will add this one to the list. The mark is dated 27 December, 1896 and would fall between the two, 25 December - St. Paul Minnesota & 28 December - New York City, New York.
If anyone has insights, more information or can provide additional clues for determining the city, it would be welcomed...
Happy collecting!
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Post by smauggie on Apr 19, 2020 10:24:04 GMT
In the latter third of the 19th century, most foreign mail coming into the US was first processed in New York. One of their principal duties was to ensure that the proper postage was paid. Below is the more familiar New York "spyglass" marking of which there are several slightly different forms. Your cover features a marking that predates the spyglass marking. Because of the volume of mail involved, there were many workstations that did this processing of the mail. For tracking and quality assurance purposes each station was given a specific letter as an identifier of the worker who processed that mail. Yours was processed at station C, while my example of an early spyglass marking below was processed at station M. These are mail processing markings and are therefore considered as auxiliary markings.  |
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on May 1, 2020 7:24:50 GMT
Somewhere between here and there, the cover posted in an earlier thread here received a transit mark, does anyone recognise the cancel?
If anyone has insights, more information or can provide additional clues for determining the city, it would be welcomed...
Happy collecting!
With a bump and a nudge, does anyone recognise this postmark or have suggestions as to where it might have been applied? If nothing specific, any pointers or suggestions for further research would be appreciated...
Thanks and happy collecting!
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Post by stanley64 on Aug 25, 2020 8:12:47 GMT
Here we go and similar to the spyglass markings, the Canadian cover shared earlier in this thread with its "letter within a circle" cancel refers to the examiner/clerk and the date. These markings were used in New York City from 1882-1902. Examples from 1882 are tough to find. The marks were struck on incoming foreign registered mail and for further reading, the best reference is by Jere Hess Barr, "The 1882-1902 Registered "Letter" Marks of New York City. I want to thank John Valenti of theclassiccancel, APS (122441), USPCS (RA2572), USCC for his expertise and knowledge during the recent Virtual Stamp Week 2020 for providing the insights and answering my questions regarding this postal mark.
Happy collecting!
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