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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 20:19:08 GMT
Hello, I'm going to look for info in my books but I doubt I will find any. What I found concerning the Semeuse is mostly unreferenced, well I think. It must be said that donuts are random and not a variety of boxes.
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Post by WERT on Sept 16, 2021 20:30:14 GMT
Hi racatrien Donuts are some times random and not random... Below are a couple of separate Scott 657 "Diver" stamps. Look at these..Both have the exact same donut in the exact same place. makes you think... Robert
Here is a donut explanation of donuts from Adminware.ca
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 20:33:05 GMT
I found some infos in a Ceres 2006 catalog. Look at the 715l for your 3 francs sepia. I enclose a photo of the referenced varieties.
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Post by renden on Sept 16, 2021 20:35:19 GMT
Hello, I'm going to look for info in my books but I doubt I will find any. What I found concerning the Semeuse is mostly unreferenced, well I think. It must be said that donuts are random and not a variety of boxes. Take a look at Spink/Maury 2022 and the previous 2017 - lots of "donuts" or anneau-de-lune in their varieties !! René |
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 21:03:10 GMT
 I found some infos in a Ceres 2006 catalog. Look at the 715l for your 3 francs sepia. I join you photo of the referenced varieties.  |
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 21:11:25 GMT
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 21:19:55 GMT
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 21:21:09 GMT
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Post by biglavalamp on Sept 16, 2021 21:39:49 GMT
Guess ill be needing Google translate
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 16, 2021 22:33:35 GMT
My most recent copy of Ceres is 1984 and it does not have quite that much detail- I may have to seek something more recent biglavalamp your French will improve dramatically! Do not be frustrated if a number of translations don't quite seem to make sense an example is Raccord which google translate to connection ... but to or with what? |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 16, 2021 23:07:33 GMT
racatrien can you scan the cover of your Ceres - I'm not finding anything used that's close to being as current as your 2006 If my newest Y&T would ever arrive, maybe it offers some additional details over previous issues
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Post by racatrien on Sept 16, 2021 23:28:06 GMT
Raccords= Stamps printed on rotary on edge-to-edge fittings between two rolls of printing paper
So there are two thicknesses of paper
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Post by darkormex on Sept 16, 2021 23:44:39 GMT
stainlessb is there a web site with these marianne differences , the link below takes you to the start of the Marianne de Gandon listings at the website, Groupement Philatélique France Scandinavie (GPFS). You can click on the individual stamp images and it will list minor number varieties for the various denominations. It is all in French and I have never read enough on the site to know what catalogue numbers it is based on...it might very well be it's own system. You should be able to copy and paste the text into google translate and get a translation into English. GPFS-France-Series FR294 |
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Post by darkormex on Sept 16, 2021 23:46:50 GMT
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Post by renden on Sept 16, 2021 23:47:09 GMT
My most recent copy of Ceres is 1984 and it does not have quite that much detail- I may have to seek something more recent biglavalamp your French will improve dramatically! Do not be frustrated if a number of translations don't quite seem to make sense an example is Raccord which google translate to connection ... but to or with what? Stan, all these lists a,b,c, etc for an issued FRANCE stamp is a little overboard if you pardon my "french" - I think some people like it very complicated and even if I was raised and trained (University) in "french"....well.........but not in FRANCE  |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 17, 2021 0:11:07 GMT
René I fell overboard years ago!  darkormex and biglavalamp - the numbering appears to maybe be of their own design (?), nothing I have seen All the stamps are 294A_ B_, etc., as if each definitive series only has one main master number for the year issued (these are all the 1946 issues) Scott has the lowest catalogue number for this series starting at 535 |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 17, 2021 13:40:15 GMT
racatrien any idea how much different the 2004 Ceres is fromther 2006 with regard too earler issues? I haven't anything more recent than 2004 Stan
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Post by biglavalamp on Sept 17, 2021 19:29:39 GMT
My most recent copy of Ceres is 1984 and it does not have quite that much detail- I may have to seek something more recent biglavalamp your French will improve dramatically! Do not be frustrated if a number of translations don't quite seem to make sense an example is Raccord which google translate to connection ... but to or with what? Stainlessb I am attempting to collect the Etoiles de Paris cancellations ( or as Google translate states ...... Stars of Paris cancellations) and used the website etoiles.e-timbres.net/ as a guide. Google translate only partially translates the web pages which have more than enough information required. This prompted me as a mental exercise mon amie to use Duolingo website to attempt to learn conversational French,so far I can only confidently order a coffee at the train station and ask for directions to the toilette,not much use so far in philately but as you quite rightly say my philatelic French has dramatically improved. |
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Post by biglavalamp on Sept 17, 2021 19:37:28 GMT
Perfect exactly what I was looking for Darkormex, thank you, the Series section of that website ,will not only help me with the Marianne's stamps but also the Sower stamps. |
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Post by racatrien on Sept 17, 2021 19:58:48 GMT
no, I don't know the differences between the two catalogs
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 17, 2021 20:24:31 GMT
we will soon find out- it was not much$ even with shippiong!
one can never have too many references
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 20, 2021 23:43:39 GMT
I received the 2003* Ceres today and it does appear to contain the same information that racatrien showed above! *listed a 2004, but it is in excellent condition so i will not complain! I am however in need of more book shelves! I see a winter room remodel in my future! I have thinking about ordering matte black plastic laminate kitchen counters (no front lip or back splash} less glare from high spectrum LED lighting (I hope) |
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 27, 2022 9:32:47 GMT
Souvenir sheet from France commemorating 90 years of the Laurens "Peace" design for the Marianne definitive stamps series, initially issued in 1932:  |
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Post by gstamps on Nov 27, 2022 13:14:34 GMT
hrdoktorx, nice souvenir sheet. I looked for it in the YT catalog and didn't find it (in 2002) Actually it's 90 years.
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 28, 2022 21:01:37 GMT
New booklet of stamps from France revisiting the "Liberté de Gandon" design 40 years after its initial issue: Front panel, with two oversize stamps:  Second page, with normal-size stamps denominated for domestic and international 20 gram letter rates:  |
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Post by renden on Nov 28, 2022 23:28:07 GMT
Great stuff X
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Post by yendiss on May 21, 2023 21:07:16 GMT
stainlessb - your post dated Sep 14, 2021 at 2:00am.
"dentele tenant a non dentele" is a pair of stamps separated by perfs with one stamp has perfs on all sides and the other stamp is imperforate
on the other " 3 sides.
Hope that's helps.
sid
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Post by yendiss on Jun 19, 2023 11:15:25 GMT
At the bottom of each Marianne de Gandon stamp is the name of the designer (Gandon) and the engraver (Cortot); my question is, what
is printed after Gandon (looks like 'Del') and after Cortot (looks like 'Sc' or S5') and what do they mean?
Thanks for any response(s).
Sid
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2023 18:01:52 GMT
At the bottom of each Marianne de Gandon stamp is the name of the designer (Gandon) and the engraver (Cortot); my question is, what is printed after Gandon (looks like 'Del') and after Cortot (looks like 'Sc' or S5') and what do they mean? These are abbreviations for Latin words which are commonly used in printmaking and, by extension, on stamps. "Del." is the abbreviation for delineavit, which means "he / she drew it" - it's used as the credit for the designer of the stamp. "Sc." is the abbreviation for sculpsit, which means "he / she carved it" - that one is used as the credit for the engraver of the stamp. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/delineavitwww.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sculpsitRyan |
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Post by yendiss on Jun 20, 2023 9:28:21 GMT
Wow! Excellent, Ryan. Thanks
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