New Zealand: Chalons - 1855-1873

Impressive!

Wow, you did get some nice lots. Noted that you had to battle for a few of them tho' - well done.

My pockets are not so deep, but I try .. lol

Looking forward to seeing some of the 'wins' once they arrive. David and Nigel are pretty quick with getting them onto the courier. You may even have them by tomorrow!!



Dave

I happened to be in Auckland so have them already. Bought a few more lots while I was there. I’m a Chalon tragic 😂

Yes there were a few battles. I won quite a few up front and then lost 8 in a row. I lost the 1d Dull orange pair on cover with overlap. I wanted it but I think I knew who the other bidder was and knew he really wanted it and that he had superior resources so I jumped early. No point costing him money.

Well, my 5 lots turned up by courier this morning. ACS are great at getting the won lots off promptly.

This is the 1862 Davies 3d bown lilac imperf won, with an unframed 'Nelson' CDS to top left - SG40

It came with an Odenweller cert as well - although I really don't understand why people get certs for these lesser valued not so rare items. Not much debate in it being SG40 !

Perhaps Klaus got a job lot of them done at a reduced price per item. Andrew Murphy has mentioned that for his items with certs before. A bulk deal!






Dave

Yes he and Bob are friends and he did get a generous rate I'm told. But it still must have cost him a bomb.

I like proofs.  They give us a very accurate idea of what the engravers and printers set out to achieve before high production and plate wear intervene.

And finally on Chalon proofs, this item from the auction. 3d in black on India paper, on card with angled corners.  Extremely rare.  RPS Certificate (2006) submitted for certification by none other than one J Hackmey.  

This was lot 1006 in Joseph Hackmey's Part 1 sale (2009), Sir Gawaine Baillie (2006), and Christie's Robson Lowe (1989).  The provenance almost makes it worth more than the item itself! 

Well you've got to enjoy yourself don't you.

Side note:  This sold for approx. US$7500 in 2009 and last week NZ$3,000.  I'm wondering what that means?  But happy that it did. 

Great items Neil. Thanks for posting them for us to enjoy.

Yes. The PB Plate proofs are great for their detail, prior to printing millions of stamps from the plates.

Here is the 2d plate 1 plate proof before printing production began :




And as SG113, after printing millions :





Dave

Bisect #2, SG6a 

This one is a classic story.  Apparently the cover sold in the 1940s as a genuine cover (it is), but without any postmarks. 

Fast forward a couple of decades and it now has postmarks, and an RPS certificate after it got the postmarks (curious that the name of the submitter has been excised!).      Or is it a case of mistaken identity?  

I love this about stamp collecting - what really happened and whodunnit!?   Should I put this with my Counterfeit collection or with my FFQ collection (most of my Counterfeits are FFQ so it won't be lonely.

The name of the submitter is just 'twinked' out - white out - so perhaps you could scrape it off to see the submitters name - or - hold it up to bright light.

It is amazing too that the person who 'manipulated' that cover had such a nice copy of the PB '18" and the Red London 'Paid' cancels to apply to it.
Makes you wonder how many other stamps & covers have been manipulated - and the present day owners not being aware!

Dangerous stuff!

Apart from that, a bl**dy nice looking cover :-)



Dave

That looks like a very nice four margin Mongonui oblit there Dave. Right up to standard. I notice in CP there are 12 shades of A5a so can understand the confusion, even among dealers who don’t have a reference library. I have found you need to own them all to see the subtle differences and of course not many can do that.
Cheers,
Neil

No it's excised - cut out. I did think when I posted the image it looked twinked but it's cut out for sure.

It is thin, hard VM paper although not as thin as some papers.

The shade fits nicely with my other bistre shades too.



Dave

Likewise Neil

Some amazing items too.

Sounds like spirited bidding on some items.

Cheers Grant