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Post by ladydoe on Aug 26, 2020 18:41:51 GMT
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Post by jln on Aug 26, 2020 19:06:06 GMT
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Post by brightonpete on Aug 26, 2020 20:02:05 GMT
I'll page darkormex to give this a boost in case he missed this post. He'll probably be able to help on this! |
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Post by darkormex on Aug 27, 2020 0:42:56 GMT
ladydoe, can you tell me if the stamps are still in the presentation book or are these just images? I know that these types of presentation books were frequently given out as gifts. They are a bit like the annual yearbooks you can purchase at the post office with all the stamps issued in a given year but a bit more formal. These were frequently given out by Korean government officials as gifts to US military, foreign diplomats, etc... I don't know that there would be any premium having the signature of the Surgeon General of Korea written in the book because he is not a very well-known person but, if the stamps are still all there and in mint never hinged condition as they would likely be, that would be where you would find much of the value. Philatarium, have you ever come across one of these?
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Post by darkormex on Aug 27, 2020 0:45:37 GMT
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Post by khj on Aug 27, 2020 1:34:24 GMT
Very nice. I haven't seen this one before, but I can confirm what darkormex has stated regarding the practice in other Asian countries of these types of collections/books being given out as gifts to officials, whether the countries' own officials or visiting officials. One of my relatives was a high-ranking military officer, and he also gave me a signed, bound, hardcover (fabric surface), government produced, full color catalog of Imperial China stamps when he found out I collected stamps. I guess it's the higher budget government equivalent of getting a nice coffee mug from a vendor.  Mine was a catalog with full original color reproductions of the stamps -- hence darkormex 's question regarding whether there were really stamps included. In the past, I've actually seen a listing for the one I have on one of the auction platforms. I do know some of these types of productions for other Asian countries were also available for purchase in "select" gift shops, especially the very early tourist trade for China (PRC), although I cannot say for sure regarding the one shown. The ones I've seen for PRC included the stamps. |
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Post by darkormex on Aug 27, 2020 1:43:22 GMT
khj, I have one from the PRC as well but with all of the souvenir sheets removed. It was given to me as a gift while in Korea and it was during the time of the Chinese stamp boom. If the souvenir sheets had been included it would have had quite a bit of value today. I haven't looked at it in a while so I don't remember what year...I might have to poke around and see if I can find it.
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Post by khj on Aug 27, 2020 2:18:39 GMT
Yeah, some of those early original PRC gift sets can get pretty pricey now -- primarily because of the stamps. In the 1990s, I was offered some by a casual collector who had acquired some during his business trips to the Far East the previous decade. I believed they did include the original stamps (not reproductions), based on the time frame and manner in which he acquired them. I told him I couldn't afford to pay him what an honest dealer would pay, so I referred him directly to a reputable dealer I knew who specialized in East Asia rather than attempt to flip it. He was shocked and super-happy about the offer he got from the dealer, and promised me a nice steak dinner if I ever went to NYC. The carnivore in me is beating myself up for having lost his contact info!
But I am wandering from the original thread topic of the Korean ministry gift book... (sorry)
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Post by darkormex on Aug 27, 2020 2:41:38 GMT
Yes, but I kinda led you there. But bringing it back around to the original topic, there was a stamp dealer in Busan, Korea that I regularly purchased stamps from in the central area down near the piers and the fishing fleet and markets who, now that I think about it, had several of these Korean Ministry of Communications presentation books on display. There are several other years or year sets and I remember a couple being vertical format and one was green and one was blue. One of those things that you tuck away in your memory especially because I visited that store so much. I still remember the layout and each time I would look "behind the counter" to see what new stuff he had acquired.
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Post by ladydoe on Aug 27, 2020 9:48:10 GMT
thankyou for all the info, yes all stamps are present, there is a stain at the edge of the book pages itself, but does not affect any of the stamps  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 27, 2020 14:33:30 GMT
Some examples of other presentation booklets may be viewed here. |
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 27, 2020 19:18:32 GMT
This Korean one may have a bit of value. A couple of questions:
(1) What date range does it cover? From the illustrations you posted, I see a page from 1957 and from 1959. What is the full range?
Duh, I now see the range in the title of the thread. "Never mind."
(2) Does it also include any souvenir sheets?
(3) How are the stamps mounted? It looks like it uses a Hawid-style mount, but double-check and make sure that the stamps are not hinged or licked or glued in.
(I guess that was 3 questions!)
Now back to 2 questions!
Thanks in advance!
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Post by ladydoe on Aug 27, 2020 19:47:34 GMT
23 stamps and one mini sheet (third postal week)
they are hinged
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 27, 2020 22:25:31 GMT
23 stamps and one mini sheet (third postal week) they are hinged Thanks for the reply! Are there blank spaces for other mini-sheets? Are there blank spaces for any of the stamps, or are they complete? |
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Post by khj on Aug 27, 2020 22:42:28 GMT
Wow, I had never noticed how much those other ROK S/S's were worth until you mentioned them, Philatarium! |
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Post by khj on Aug 27, 2020 22:44:42 GMT
Is that a glassine interleaving covering the stamps in your pics?
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 27, 2020 22:50:54 GMT
That's why I keep asking about what's in the book. There's also a definitive set that has some very high catalog value stamps.
Also, for this time period, there is also a significant premium for never hinged. You can kind of eyeball those instances where Scott prices both mh and mnh. Mh are maybe 30-40% of mnh.
Nevertheless, this is a timeframe where, speaking overly broadly, I don't think that many worldwide collectors were paying much attention to South Korea. Later on, when it became more popular, there was a need for complete-ist collectors to backfill, and it really drove up the demand for some of these issues that were issued in smaller quantities (like the souvenir sheets and high-value definitives). The economy was still recovering from several generations of Japanese occupation and then a devastating civil war, and priorities were focused on becoming self-sustaining. (Which they wildly succeeded in!)
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Post by darkormex on Aug 27, 2020 23:20:34 GMT
ladydoe are you willing and able to provide more pics?
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Post by ladydoe on Aug 28, 2020 8:21:12 GMT
hi, i will take pics of evvery page today and post them for you. no gaps all complete and yes like a glassine sheet over each, ill show the stain damage to the book too |
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Post by ladydoe on Aug 28, 2020 10:51:56 GMT
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Post by darkormex on Aug 29, 2020 1:29:40 GMT
The stand outs here, at least from a Korean postage stamp catalogue perspective are the 3 stamps issued for Christmas and the new year in 1957. The individual stamps below have values based on current exchange rates (from left to right) of $19.50, $10.00 and $38.00 respectively. Scott Catalogue prices are significantly lower. The KPSC catalogue does not price based on hinged vs. never hinged and states that they evaluate prices based on market prices in Korea.  |
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Post by ladydoe on Aug 29, 2020 17:31:19 GMT
thank you for the help |
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