ajkitt
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What I collect: Classics, Central Europe, World
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Post by ajkitt on Oct 26, 2020 23:09:29 GMT
Hi all, I'm not quite sure what to make of the stamp on the lower left? I just picked it up at auction (I bid it because I wanted to see that particular stamp up close) from Sandafayre - they listed it as DR I, II (x2), and III. Is that a perf error? The edges are remarkably straight, but slightly rhomboid (convergence towards bottom). Any thoughts? Thanks, Andy
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Oct 28, 2020 8:21:44 GMT
I do not own this set and could not find any offers or mentioning of the part-imperforated 20 Pfg. Michel Deutschland Spezial does not list it.However in an old Michel Deutschland 1993/94 an imperforated 20 Pfg.is mentioned.Very pricy,DM 2500.- versus DM 40.- for the normal perforated stamp.It does not state wether it is completely or part-imperforated. As the imp. stamp no longer is listed,I can only guess,that it turned out to originate from printers waste. The perforation of both shown 20 Pfg. values looks quite different.There seem to be also some minor differerences in the design.But maybe that is not uncommon,as the print of this stamp was rather high with 200.000. My Michel lists Michael Jäschke-Lantelme as BPP-expert for this issue.
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ajkitt
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What I collect: Classics, Central Europe, World
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Post by ajkitt on Oct 28, 2020 13:17:20 GMT
Hi salentin, thanks for the input. I did see the difference in the sizes of the perfs but more or less disregarded it - huge differences in perf pin sizes of German stamps seem to be the norm right up to the end of WWII. I was thinking maybe since this is a line perf instead of the usual German comb, perhaps they just neglected to run it through the other way? I did not notice the design differences - I just figured Sandafayre a reliable enough source to allow their assessment to stand. Re: Jäschke, though... Expert opinions have a price tag (that they earn! I don't want this to sound like a slam). Do they respond to email questions like this without having the physical stamp. Also, (I can't imagine this is the case, but...) what happens if I send the stamp for an expert opinion and it turns out to be worth far more than anticipated? Don't they charge on a percent of value? Thanks,Andy
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ameis33
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What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet
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What I collect: Poland and Italy Republic
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Post by ameis33 on Oct 28, 2020 17:27:28 GMT
I don’t think you will got an answer for free, unless you’re a friend or a known customer, but i also wonder if it’s right or wrong? Why should an expert work for free? Anyway, to be afraid to have in your hand a valuable stamp, let me a little bit surprised... I believe the cost of a certificate should be 2-3% of the catalog price, but i also believe a certified stamp should not be difficult to resell at much higher values... I also believe scissors are in every house... just multiple imperf stamps or border of sheet are sure, because if imperf stamps exists, also perforator jumps or wider borders do...
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Oct 29, 2020 9:39:38 GMT
The tariffs of the BPP (Federation of Philatelic Experts) are complex.The main points are: The fee is 4% of the catalogue value (usually Michel),or where there is no cat.-value,10% of the trade value. The minimum fee for a single stamp is € 3.-.The minimum fee for a shipment is € 25.- + postage and packing. Costs for certificates are extra for cheaper stamps,but is inclusive,if the total fees exceed € 150.-. However all costs and fees are negotiable prior to sending your shipment. So perhaps you could send a request to the expert about the costs,what might give you an idea about the value of your part-imperforated stamp.
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kasvik
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What I collect: Cancels mostly, especially Sweden Gävle and Lidingö, Switzerland Geneva, Germany Pforzheim
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Post by kasvik on Mar 27, 2021 23:06:29 GMT
A nifty mint and Frankfurt aM cancelled Pforzheim commemorative; 225 years (huh?) of Pforzheim's unique gold, watch and jewelry trade.
Great stamp, but what is that cancel? First day, so I assume it's a philatelic special, not tied per normal regulation. cara has a bunch similarity struck at thestampforum.boards.net/thread/8243/germany-definitives-women-german-history What's that about? The subscription you mention?
Someday I'm determined to find one actually struck in Pforzheim.
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 28, 2021 6:44:47 GMT
yes I am pretty sure that is a stamp from a subscription. I don't know how it is in the US, but many German stamp collectors have new stamp issues sent to them by the post office every quarter, mint and/or cancelled. Very easy with cancelled stamps is to check if the gum is still on the back. But some also put the stamps in water, then the gum is gone.
The stamp is genuine, the cancel is genuine and usually very nice. Only the stamp has never seen an envelope, it is a matter of taste.
cara
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