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Post by redkiwi on May 20, 2024 14:46:01 GMT
I read Stephen's article at the time and found it interesting. The earliest I have is 5 March 1909. I found another example online of 14 Feb. A nice item to keep an eye out for.
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Post by redkiwi on May 20, 2024 16:59:25 GMT
Adding a Dickie coil pair (GS1a) from the Reserve Plate.
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Post by redkiwi on May 20, 2024 17:05:56 GMT
And this is, I believe, CP G6d with mixed perfs (11 x 14 x 11 & 14 double x 14):
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Post by redkiwi on May 20, 2024 17:59:58 GMT
And one more, this is a pair of 1d on Pirie/Waterlow paper with mixed perf 11 x 14 reperfed 11 vertically to correct misplaced lines of perf 14 CP G2e (y).
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Post by DK on May 20, 2024 21:40:56 GMT
That is a lovely 'Dickie' coil pair Klem.
I don't possess any coils at all - not for the want of trying mind you, as I have bid on some at auction before - but failed :-( lol
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Post by DK on May 20, 2024 21:43:41 GMT
I had to look really hard at that first 'mixed' perf variety you showed us.
I was going to comment that it wasn't 'mixed' perf, just a p11x14 - but looking really hard I spotted the horizontal row of p14 near the top, below the row of p11.
Gee, that is hard to see. Perhaps it stands out more from seeing it from the back.
Nice one.
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Post by DK on May 20, 2024 21:45:29 GMT
And the 'mixed' perf pair are beauties.
SG284 cat £140 each!
Another nice item.
PS Postmark is of Onewhero - a farming settlement near Pukekohe, just south of Auckland.
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Post by redkiwi on May 21, 2024 4:36:21 GMT
That is a lovely 'Dickie' coil pair Klem. I don't possess any coils at all - not for the want of trying mind you, as I have bid on some at auction before - but failed :-( lol Dave I was in the same situation, and then an accumulation of NZ items came up on eBay with all sort of pieces somewhat randomly assembled in a stock book. This coil pair was tucked in the back.
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Post by redkiwi on May 21, 2024 4:38:06 GMT
I had to look really hard at that first 'mixed' perf variety you showed us. I was going to comment that it wasn't 'mixed' perf, just a p11x14 - but looking really hard I spotted the horizontal row of p14 near the top, below the row of p11. Gee, that is hard to see. Perhaps it stands out more from seeing it from the back. Nice one. Dave The perf 14 holes are tiny on these. That's probably why they're sometimes missed. Also, this example has PO patching, better seen from the back:
I have a few more double and mixed perf varieties I'll post when I have a moment.
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Post by DK on May 21, 2024 4:45:23 GMT
Adding a Dickie coil pair (GS1a) from the Reserve Plate. I note that the RH stamp has a prominent guideline too. Nice Dave
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Post by DK on May 21, 2024 4:46:54 GMT
I was in the same situation, and then an accumulation of NZ items came up on eBay with all sort of pieces somewhat randomly assembled in a stock book. This coil pair was tucked in the back. Wow. Lucky Don't you love eBay! lol Dave
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Post by redkiwi on May 21, 2024 5:27:22 GMT
Yes, I noted that guideline, it's a nice addition. Perhaps it makes this platable?
And on eBay, indeed. I was annoyed with myself last night as I got distracted and missed an auction that may have had a rare shade of the 1900 Boer war stamp. Howeve, then I searched through some other lots and came across another random assortment which had something that I believe is very rare. I'll share once it arrives. Always something of interest to be found.
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Post by redkiwi on May 21, 2024 13:49:33 GMT
Some examples of G5e with various double/mixed perfs, some PO patched. The top two are also examples of the plate 2, row 10/16 re-entry, a line under the 'N' in 'ONE':
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Post by redkiwi on May 21, 2024 15:40:27 GMT
It really was the Wild West when it came to stamp perforation in NZ in those days.
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Post by DK on Jul 6, 2024 22:22:53 GMT
Speaking of perf. varieties, I recently won this small lot of Universals on Trademe. It cost me a whole NZ$4.00 (@ US$2.50 or GBP£2.00) This lot contained a couple of nicer items if you know your Universals. The best of them though is this one: It is SG290a - 1901 (Dec.) Thin,hard Basted Mills paper wmk.38 (which is the double lined NZ & Star) p11 x 14. A pleasing find! Dave
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Post by xacs on Jul 7, 2024 1:13:35 GMT
I was only just this weekend also sorting through or rather relooking at ½d Mt Cook and 1d Universals perf varieties etc... Thought I would check out TSF, hopefully I can add to this same posting. Nice score Dave, I always forget to check out Universals, even though there are lots of things to look for. Here is a pair identified as CP G8d "Dot" plate with Mixed perfs. Suffers from toning so not the best. In itself not all that scarce but this pair shows 'partial' Mixed perfs on left stamp. The P11 used to correct normal P14 at top edge has stopped short and the left stamp is half P11 and half P14 on top.
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 1:26:37 GMT
Nice find Clayton. I have seen it before, on blocks that is, where the reperf has not gone across the entire sheet. I will check my books for that! And for those wondering, the so-called 'dot' plate is referred to by that name due to these dots found in the LH margin, quite often cut out when the perf holes go right over the top of them! Dave
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Post by xacs on Jul 7, 2024 1:40:28 GMT
Also when considering the "Basted Mills" paper examples you can understand why the compound perfs are more common than the P11 all round when you see just how rough the P11 was. I have just one Mint example of this stamp and none Used.
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 1:59:20 GMT
That is a very rough p11 there Clayton! Here are a few other 'Basted Mills' printing : First row p14 Second row p14 1st 2 pairs + a p11 single used (odd pale shade!) Third row all p11 x 14 used singles Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 2:07:29 GMT
Here's a late usage block of 8 used 'Basted Mills', p11 x 14: Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 2:12:07 GMT
And a couple of the 'mixed perf' varieties : One of each vertical and horizontal fix-ups ! Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 2:19:21 GMT
I couldn't find an example of the 'Universal' mixed perfs where the perforating only went partially across the sheet of stamps as per Claytons example above, but, did find this example on the ½d Mt Cook of the same time period. SG306 d) p11 & 14 mixed Thin, hard 'Cowan' paper Dave
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Post by xacs on Jul 7, 2024 4:49:08 GMT
Beauty! Looks like the horiz P14 went rather askew, can see why this would have needed correction. The stamps to the right must have had the perfs way off. Was this patched at all, doesn't look like it. Also interesting with the date stamp at base. I don't recall reading anything about this. Is it something done during printing or maybe a clerical addition after production?
Probably shouldn't get sidetracked on Mt Cooks in a Universal thread. Cheers Clayton
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Post by paul1 on Jul 7, 2024 7:14:54 GMT
being one of life's dabblers, I don't usually get to be knowledgeable about anything , and this penny universal is no exception - so really only posting this as it might vaguely be of interest to other folk. To my untrained eye, this looks as though its original location was top left corner - though quite why the perfs were omitted on the two sides I've no idea - was this perhaps standard practice at the corners? The cancellation date is 23 MY 03.
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 7:31:54 GMT
Hi Paul Your Penny Universal is from a booklet pane, like this one shown below: As you can see, the sides on this pane are imperf. A whole new plate was made just to print these booklet 'Universals'. Cheers Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 7, 2024 7:37:46 GMT
Please see page 1 of this thread to see all of the types of Penny Universals & how to differentiate them. Relevant portion about the booklet stamp follows: Booklet Plate
Copies are often imperf. on one or two sides (as these came from panes of 6 stamps each).
The main distinguishing mark of the booklet plate is that the pearl in the top left hand corner was retouched and is larger and stands out more clearly than in any other plate. The outer of the three pearls at the middle left was also retouched and stands out clearly.
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Post by xacs on Jul 7, 2024 7:43:27 GMT
Nice example of a "Booklet" plate issue of the Penny Universal. There is a great introduction at start of this thread for useful info regarding all the different plates and printings of this stamp. As well as the imperf sides your stamp clearly shows the other defining features of enlarged and redrawn pearls at top and left and centre.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 7, 2024 8:02:08 GMT
very big thanks to Dave and Clayton for the enlightenment - very interesting to say the least - nothing but admiration for guys like you who do so much to bring real knowledge to our hobby. From a booklet pane it is then.
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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 7, 2024 8:06:07 GMT
Jumping back to the 0.5d Mt Cook, a very interesting block. The block is probably R9 and 10 No 15,16 & 17 based on the position of the marginal letters. The sheet was probably perforated vertically with the rotary perf 14 machine that had 25 wheels and horizontally with the 11-wheel perf 14 machine. It would seem that about 2/3rds of the way through the horizontal perforating the sheet as skewed causing the misalignment. The correction has been carried out using the 1895 rotary 11 machine with perforating stopped nine stamps in from the right-hand margin. Two other perf 11 machines were available but both were line machines.
A fascinating block and I'm guessing very rare. Mixed perfs of the period would more commonly be the product of the perf 11 line machines correcting perf 14 rotary machine errors.
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Post by DK on Jul 8, 2024 7:33:28 GMT
Thanks for those thoughts Philip. Very interesting.
I bought that block several years ago now, it came with a couple of other ½d Mt Cook mixed perf blocks or strips. I must go and take another look at those ones too.
As Clayton suggested earlier, this thread is about the Penny Universal so we will not discuss the ½d Mt Cook on 'this' thread further.
Perhaps we can start another thread on the ½d Mt Cook later if enough interest.
Cheers
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