cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 21, 2021 21:02:43 GMT
Today I present one of my special collecting areas: Envelopes in the period from June 21, 1948 (10 am) to June 23, 1948 (10 am). So it covers only 2 days. These were 2 "special" days for West Germany, because these were the days of the currency conversion from Reichsmark to D-Mark. This also had an effect on letter postage. Stamps could be used up on these two days with 1/10 of their nominal value. Therefore these frankings are also called " Zehnfachfrankaturen". This is shown by the following local letter from Munich: Michel # 951 (24 Pf - 5 stamps): 120 Pf Michel # 954 (40 Pf – 1 stamp): 40 pf In total: 160 Pf, therof 1/10 = 16 Pf (= postage for a local letter until August 31, 1948)  Cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 22, 2021 8:06:39 GMT
Another one: Letter from Braunschweig to Schildesche (June 21, 1948 - 11 p.m.) Postage 24 Pfennige Michel # 918 (24*10 Pfennige = 240 Pfennige) 1/10 = 24 Pfennige = correct postage The stamps have two plate flaws (Michel # 918 II and 918 IV)     Cara
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on Feb 22, 2021 10:51:21 GMT
Thanks for sharing cara ; what a treat to catch the plate flaws on postally-used pieces :-) Keep the posts coming; I know that I for one am interested in seeing more... Happy collecting!
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 22, 2021 19:34:48 GMT
Thank you very much stanley64, that encourages me to show more. Letter from Kirchdorf to Ingolstadt (June 21, 1948 - 1 p.m.) Postage 48 Pfennige (letter from 21 to 50 gram) Michel # 932 (9*50 Pfennige = 450 Pfennige) Michel # 953 (1*30 Pfennige = 30 Pfennige Total: 480 Pfennige 1/10 = 48 Pfennige = correct postage Mix of stamps I. and II. "Kontrollratsausgabe"  Look at the adress! No street, no zip-code, only Finanzamt Ingolstadt (ok, Finanzamt = Tax office is obviously easy to find)
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Feb 23, 2021 2:19:56 GMT
Letter from Kirchdorf to Ingolstadt (June 21, 1948 - 1 p.m.) ... Look at the adress! No street, no zip-code, only Finanzamt Ingolstadt (ok, Finanzamt = Tax office is obviously easy to find) I think it would be much easier for me to find the correct tax office than it would be to find the correct Kirchdorf! How many Kirchdorfs are there in Bavaria? Once upon a time I had an excellent road atlas of Germany, the type that has such detail that the atlas is about 400 pages long. I was trying to bring a friend to a small town near the old Canadian Air Forces base in Lahr and was having a hard time - his directions were poor, he had never been there before and didn't know where we were going, wasn't very good at reading my map while I drove, etc. Later that night I studied the map, convinced we had driven in circles because I kept seeing signs to Reichenbach. On my map I found 4 different villages named Reichenbach all within about 30 km of each other ... haha Ryan
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 23, 2021 16:11:59 GMT
Yes Ryan, there are lots of "Kirchdorf" in Germany, but I could not find a source how many there are in Bavaria or Germany. The most common name is "Hausen", which exists 57 times in Germany. It can be a little confusing as in your example with Reichenbach. No GPS will help.
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 23, 2021 21:26:12 GMT
Letter from Augsburg to Krumbach (June 21, 1948 - 11 p.m.) Postage 48 Pfennige (letter from 21 to 50 gram) Michel # 951 (20*24 Pfennige = 480 Pfennige) 1/10 = 48 Pfennige = correct postage  
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Post by smauggie on Feb 24, 2021 2:06:26 GMT
Russian Zone 
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Post by smauggie on Feb 24, 2021 2:25:27 GMT
Rhineland Palatinate, Under French Administration 
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Post by smauggie on Feb 24, 2021 2:27:54 GMT
Wurttemberg, American Zone 
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 24, 2021 8:16:15 GMT
Hi smauggie,
great covers!
All covers with correct postage.
First cover to Maspeth with stamps of sovjet zone. First stamps after currency conversion in the sovjet zone, issued July 1948. I can not read the date, but it has to be between July 1948 and February 1950. 50 Pfennige from "East"-Germany to US is correct. These stamps are called "Maschinenaufdrucke".
Second cover from Koblenz is a registered mail. Correct postage with 84 Pfennige. French zone (Rheinland-Pfalz). A very nice cover because not so often.
Third cover to university of Miami from French zone (Württemberg), dated March 3, 1949. Correct postage with 30 Pfennige. From September 1, 1948 the postage to US was reduced from 50 Pfennige to 30 Pfennige. French zone had three different areas with differnt stamps (Baden, Württemberg and Rheinland-Pfalz)
Very nice, thanks for showing!
cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 24, 2021 22:05:04 GMT
Today I show a "special" letter form Friedberg to Augsburg (btw the town were I was born) (June 22, 1948 - 3 p.m.) It is not special because it is my birthplace, but it looks very much like a philatelic stamped envelope. Nevertheless in my opinion a wonderful cover. It shows all "Sondermarken" (special stamps? commemorative stamps?) of the so called "Gemeinschaftsausgabe" (valid stamps in the American zone, British zone and Russian zone - issued February 1946 to May 1948) The stamps are nicely arranged, have a special cancelation and ... ... the postage of 48 Pfennige is correct (letter from 21 to 50 gram) Michel # 941 (24 Pf) Michel # 942 (60 Pf) Michel # 944 (6 Pf) Michel # 963 (24 Pf) Michel # 964 (75 Pf) Michel # 965 (12 Pf) Michel # 966 (75 Pf) Michel # 967 (50 Pf) Michel # 968 (84 Pf) Michel # 969 (24 Pf) Michel # 970 (50 Pf) In total 484 Pfennige / 10 = 48 Pfennige (rounded)  I hope you like it, too. cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 25, 2021 20:29:24 GMT
I don't want to bore you, so today another specialty from this collecting area. From June 20, 1948 to June 22, 1948 one could use up the old "Reichsmark"-stamps with 1/10 of their nominal value. But on June 21, 1948 stamps with the new "DM" were issued. Therefore, mixed frankings were also possible on these two days as the following letter shows: Letter from Wiesbaden to Karlsruhe (June 22, 1948) Postage 108 Pfennige (registered letter from 21 to 50 gram); the necessary arrival postmark is on the back Michel # 962 (2 * 500 Pfennige = 1000 Pfennige) <- "old Reichsmark stamps" 1/10 = 100 Pfennige plus Michel # 38 II (8 Pfennige) <- "new DM stamp" (old Michel # 945 with overprint) in total: 108 Pfennige = correct postage
Michel # 962 is called "Blaue Taube" (blue Pigeon).
Do not buy any postmarked "Blaue Taube" without attestation, because most of them are forgeries. (mint you can buy, they are cheap) cara
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Feb 27, 2021 11:27:43 GMT
We're not bored at all, cara! Quite the contrary, these are amazing covers. The Leipziger Messe issues are among my all-time favourites. I do have a few used stamps from the Württemberg French Zone, from when my grand-father, himself a stamp collector, was stationed in Lahr in 1946. But he soaked them once he got back to Canada and the covers are long gone...
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Feb 27, 2021 21:34:40 GMT
Thank you hrdoktorx.
It is not so easy for me what I should post in an US Forum. My collecting areas are very special German areas like occupied Germany from 1945 to 1949 or GDR official stamps or so called "Postkrieg"- covers between West-Germany and Eastern Europe or military censorship or postage prepaid in cash ... and and and. For sure I have the "normal" German stamps, too, but I'am not really interested collecting them, it is not exciting enough. In the meantime I went through many threads of the forum and it was a little bit surprising to me that there are obviously differences what people of different countries are collecting. For example revenue stamps, perfins and cinderellas are not so intensively discussed and shown in German stamp forums. At least I haven't noticed it that way yet. I have to look whether I will find some stamps of these collecting areas (I know I have some perfins somewhere).My father soaked many stamps, too. Fortunately not the covers of occupied Germany  Leipziger Messe stamps are very nice and I like them very much, too. I have a couple of commemmorative cards of Leipziger Messe 1947, they are not rare and have no additional value to the stamps but have a "special cancellation" and look nice. If you want it I will send it to you (of course for free).  cara
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Feb 28, 2021 9:24:15 GMT
Thank you cara for the very nice offer. But please do not feel obligated in any way. As you will have seen on the Forum, we have a wide variety of nationalities and collecting interests here, including many Germany collectors. There will always be someone that shares the poster's collection focus at some level or another, and many of us just enjoy a good collector showing their skill and how they can present pieces in an interesting way. You certainly qualify!
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Mar 1, 2021 0:12:35 GMT
Just wanted to say I've enjoyed reading about your specialty collection.
I see you are from Bavaria. I lived in Nurnberg from 1970-1971. Jeff
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 1, 2021 8:05:42 GMT
Just wanted to say I've enjoyed reading about your specialty collection. I see you are from Bavaria. I lived in Nurnberg from 1970-1971. Jeff Thank you JeffS! My Scanner works again since yesterday, so I will post some more covers the next days. In 1970-1971 I lived in Augsburg (my birthplace), since 1991 I live near Nurnberg. Cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 1, 2021 20:05:29 GMT
Today I show 2 covers from Germany to foreign countries dated June 22, 1948 (currency conversion day, 1/10 of nominal value of the stamp). Postage was 50 Pfennige. First letter from Kirchheim-Teck to Disentis (Switzerland)Michel # 962 (500 Pfennige "Blaue Taube") 1/10 = 50 Pfennige = correct postage
 ________________________________________________________________________________________ Second letter from Hamburg to Moskau (Russia)Michel # 962 (500 Pfennige "Blaue Taube") 1/10 = 50 Pfennige = correct postage
  Arrival postmark Moskau on the back dated 8 July 1948. On the front a date stamp in Russian dated 9 July 1948 - probably the day of delivery.  It is a censored cover. British censorship office in Hamburg, cancellation with the number 4572 and a crown without frame. The closure strip on the left side of the letter without imprint. Every cover to foreign countries and in random samples domestic covers were opened, read by censorship office and than closed with closure strips. The cancellation (number, form, text and so on) shows in which censorship office the cover was opened. Employees in the censorship offices were Germans who had to adhere strictly to the instructions of the occupation authorities. Cara
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Mar 1, 2021 23:46:49 GMT
cara , on the cover to Moscow I am curious if the name Mezhdunarodnaja Kniga ( international book in English) identifies the name of an organization or is it meant to indicate what is being mailed?
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 2, 2021 7:14:55 GMT
Hi darkormex "Mezhdunarodnaja Kniga" was a Publisher house in Moscow. So I think it was the adress and not an indication of the content. cara
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Post by daniel on Mar 2, 2021 13:31:37 GMT
Hi darkormex "Mezhdunarodnaja Kniga" was a Publisher house in Moscow. So I think it was the adress and not an indication of the content. cara They are still trading at the same address in Moscow as booksellers since 1936, also known as The House of Foreign books.
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 7, 2021 20:46:13 GMT
While the currency conversion in West Germany (FRG; American, British and French zone) took place from June 21, 1948 to June 23, 1948, the currency conversion in East Germany (GDR; Russian zone) took place from June 24, 1948 to July 31, 1948. As in West Germany, "old" stamps with 1/10 of the nominal value could be used during this time in East Germany. In addition, from June 24. 1948, there were district stamp overprints (so-called "Bezirksstempel-Aufdrucke") with new currency or from July 1948 the machine overprints (so-called "Maschinen-Aufdrucke") with new currency. I show 4 covers with only "old" stamps (so-called "Gemeinschaftsausgaben"): From Arnstadt (Russion zone) to Biberach June 27, 1948 Michel # 933 (4*60 Pfennige = 240 Pfennige /10 = 24 Pfennige = correct postage)  From Arnstadt (Russion zone) to Karlsruhe June 26, 1948 Michel # 948 (16*15 Pfennige = 240 Pfennige /10 = 24 Pfennige = correct postage)  From Wünschendorf (Russion zone) to Zwickau June 25, 1948 Michel # 950 (2*20 Pfennige = 40 Pfennige) andMichel # 960 (1*2 Mark = 200 Pfennige) /10 = 24 Pfennige = correct postage)  From Arnstadt (Russion zone) to Berlin-Neukölln June 26, 1948 Michel # 963 (10*24 Pfennige = 240 Pfennige /10 = 24 Pfennige = correct postage) 
cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 8, 2021 20:56:15 GMT
From Gera (East-Germany) to Brooklyn - New York / July 7, 1948Michel # 943 (2*2 Pfennige = 4 Pfennige) Michel # 961 (2*300 Pfennige = 600 Pfennige) Michel # 962 (2*500 Pfennige = 1,000 Pfennige) Total 1,604/10 = 160 Pfennige = correct postage (rounded) for a registered mail to New York in 1948 On the backside cancellations from New York and Brooklyn   cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 13, 2021 22:28:44 GMT
From Munich to Corona NY USA - June 22, 1948
Michel # 959 (100 Pfennige) Michel # 960 (200 Pfennige) Michel # 961 (300 Pfennige) Michel # 962 (500 Pfennige) Total 1,100 Pfennige /10 = 110 Pfennige = correct postage (50 Pfennige to USA and 60 Pfennige for a registered mail) Cover with all 4 pigeon-stamps of "2. Kontrollratsausgabe"   cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 14, 2021 21:49:39 GMT
From Viersen to Dülken - June 22, 1948
Michel # 948 (15 Pfennige) Michel # 952 (25 Pfennige) Michel # 961 (300 Pfennige) Michel # 962 (500 Pfennige) Total 840 Pfennige /10 = 84 Pfennige = correct postage (registered mail in Germany)   The 25 Pfennige (orange) Michel # 952 has a rarer specialty. On the left is a printer's mark with positive digit "2". Printer identification numbers are a form of printer's marks. With them you can assign the sheet to certain printers. They are available with negative digits as well as with positive digits (with colored background, color of the stamp). Printer identification numbers are only used for roller printing. Printer's marks and printer identification numbers are cataloged separately in the Michel Germany Special.  cara
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 16, 2021 21:09:31 GMT
From Goslar to Nienburg/Weser / June 22, 1948 Michel # 918 (16*10 Pfennige = 160 Pfennige) Michel # 946 (12*10 Pfennige = 120 Pfennige) Michel # 967 (4*50 Pfennige = 200 Pfennige) Total 480/10 = 48 Pfennige = correct postage (mail 21-50 grams)  Notice to the cancellation: It was used from March 1932 to Juli 1938 (with a " * " left and right of the " g "). Than it was adapted, the two " * " were eliminated and it was used without " * " from August 1938 to July 1948 (source: database of stampsx). The date is "22.6.48 8-9N" and 8-9N means 8-9 p.m. ("N" = "Nachmittag" = afternoon). cara
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Mar 17, 2021 22:16:58 GMT
cara - I admire your postings for their informative nature and the quality of your items.
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 17, 2021 22:42:53 GMT
Thank you JeffS ! And I admire you because of your "orange-collection". So I think everybody here has something to show and we learn from each other.
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Mar 20, 2021 8:43:18 GMT
From Munich to Amberg / June 22, 1948 Mixed franking stamps with old and new currency Michel # 950 (20 Pfennige) Michel # 960 (200 Pfennige) total 220 Pfennige / 10 = 22 Pfennige and Michel # 36 I (2 Pfennige) in total = 24 Pfennige = correct postage (mail up to 20 grams)  Stamps of "1. and 2. Kontrollrat" with margins are separately listed in Michel Germany special. Categorized whether plate or roller print and margins perforated ("dgz") or imperforated ("ndgz"). cara
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