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Post by thegubman on Feb 10, 2022 10:59:25 GMT
Part 25. Another Oscar cover to Denmark with the 12sk summer rate, this time made up of 3 x 4sk stamps. This is one of sixteen recorded covers for this rate and denomination of stamps. With nice Holmestrand circular date stamps to the front, dated 12.6.1863 and Danish Helsingor back stamp dated 14.6.1863. Next up France as the destination. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 11, 2022 11:13:19 GMT
Part 26. Here we have a 26sk Oscar cover sent to France. This was the rate for single weight letters for postage to France from 1857 to 1864. The cover is made up of 3 x 8sk plus a single 2sk, equating to 26sk in total. This is one of 72 recorded covers for this rate and combination of stamps. So relatively plentiful for skilling Oscar covers! The front of the cover has Skien 17.4.1863 CDS and French cancellation dated 21.4.1863, I think the town sent to is St Brieuc. On the reverse a nice Sandosund date stamp 18.4.1863, with further French postmarks somewhat indistinct. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 12, 2022 8:51:01 GMT
Part 27: Destination Germany. The single weight rate for postage by sea to Hamburg and Lubeck was 16sk, for those sent over land via Sweden the rate was 20sk. For letters sent to destinations in Eastern, Southern or Western Germany the rate was 24sk. The example shown here is for the 24sk rate, made up of three 8sk Oscars. This cover was sent to Coln (Cologne) via Denmark and Hamburg. It has a Christiania 24.5.1861 date stamp, Aus Danemark to the front and nice German and Danish backstamps. This is one of thirty recorded covers for this rate, with three 8sk Oscars. Graham
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Post by JeffS on Feb 12, 2022 10:33:18 GMT
These are so nice!
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Post by thegubman on Feb 13, 2022 9:14:26 GMT
Part 28. Foreign destination Spain. All mail sent during the Oscar period went via France. For the single weight rate it was 26sk and the cover shown below is an example of this, made up of three 8sk and one 2sk Oscar. This is one of 30 recorded covers sent to Spain with this combination of stamps. Again with a lot of cancellations, on the front Bergen CDS, 21.2.1860, French transit postmark, red PP in box and 4R in blue (4 real collected in Spain). On the reverse date stamp for Svinesund 26.2.1860 and nice Bilbao 5 Mar 60, which illustrates the route taken for the letter and time taken. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 14, 2022 11:42:38 GMT
Part 29. Foreign destination Sweden. "Norway was in a kind of union with Sweden from 1814 up to 1905." Quote from the Tore Gjelsvik book detailed in an earlier post. For this reason the postage rates were much lower than other countries. The single weight rate from 1857 to 1863 was 8sk, reducing to 6sk later on. The cover shown below was sent from Christianssand to Malmo, it only has the date stamps on the front with nothing on the reverse, dated 18.1.1863. For this rate and combination of 2 x 4sk Oscars there are 18 recorded covers. Next up covers to the UK. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 15, 2022 12:40:21 GMT
Part 30. Destination UK, Scotland. Two main routes were used when posting to the UK, more commonly via continental Europe and also by private steamers to Hull. The cover shown sent to Glasgow in Scotland is the single weight rate to the UK at 35sk, consisting of four 8sk + one 3sk Oscars of which 61 covers are recorded. The cover comes full with excellent postmarks, Christiania 12.7.1859; Hamburg 15.7.1859; London paid 18.7.1859 and to the reverse Hamburg 14.7.1859 and finally Glasgow 18.7.1859. Included in the scans are the contents of the letter, I can make some of it out but not all. Still a nice piece of social history. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 16, 2022 13:14:47 GMT
Part 31. Destination UK, Scotland. Cover number two, sent from Christiania to Charlestown near Dunfermline. Again the cover is full of postmarks, so tracking the route taken is easy to do. Starting with Christiania 18.12.1860, followed by back stamp Svinesund 19.12.1860, German Hamburg 24.12.1860, London 26.12.1860, then travelling up north to Stirling 26.12.1860 and final destination Dunfermline 27.12.1860. I wonder where it spent Christmas day! Scans show the cover made up of 3 x 3sk, 1 x 4sk and 3 x 8sk totalling 37sk and the complete letter. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 17, 2022 12:08:53 GMT
Part 32. Destination UK, Scotland. Cover number three, sent from Mandal to Leith. The cover is made up with 4 x 8sk, 1 x 3sk and 1 x 2sk Oscars so another 37sk rated letter. Once more chock full of postmarks, starting of with Mandal 11.12.1861; Svinesund 15.12.1861; Hamburg (in black and red) 20.12.1861; London 23.12.1861 and Edinburgh 24.12.1861 so probably delivered in time for Christmas in Leith. There are quite a few different rated covers to the UK, including one with 3 x 3sk + 88 x 8sk, making up an incredible 665sk which is 19 times the standard rate! Next up a couple with mixed franking with 1863 vapen. Graham
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Post by racatrien on Feb 17, 2022 12:16:37 GMT
I congratulate you, it's beautiful!
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Post by racatrien on Feb 17, 2022 21:57:18 GMT
One of my rare ones with nice postmark, maybe you can tell me what the city is? You have done a wonderful study, congratulations.
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Post by thegubman on Feb 18, 2022 9:02:41 GMT
Numeral 181 for Lillehammer rated b in the Norgeskatalogen. Nice stamp. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 18, 2022 11:07:44 GMT
Part 33. Mixed franking covers, those with skilling vapen and Oscars. Only one mixed franking cover with a Norway number 1 is known, made up of 4sk vapen, 3sk + 8sk Oscars (15 skilling) sent to Denmark. The cover and cover front shown below are both sent to Denmark and are at the 15sk rate, made up of 3sk Oscar and 4sk + 8sk vapens (coat of arms). These are quite rare and highly sought after. This is the last of the covers I will be putting up. Other countries that have skilling Oscar covers include Netherlands, Russia, and most European countries such as Italy and Switzerland. Further afield, single covers exist sent to Canada, China, Egypt, Mauritius and Peru. There also are known two bisected Oscar covers, which after much debate are now certified. After a little break I will put up some scans of the pairs, strips and blocks of the Skilling Oscars. Graham
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Feb 18, 2022 22:41:22 GMT
Graham ( thegubman ), I just wanted to say thanks for starting this thread and for sharing all of your fabulous material on these great stamps. You have clearly assembled a marvellous collection, and for that, I congratulate you! I would also like to say that I would be very interested to be see the bisects you have mentioned, if you are willing to share those. I only have one bisect from anywhere in my entire collection, and I believe it was a philatelic rendering, so I can appreciate that genuine postal bisects are seriously rare and something to be prized for sure. Anyway, thanks again for all you have shared to date and looking forward to what is to come.
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Post by kasvik on Feb 19, 2022 3:47:05 GMT
Graham ( thegubman ), I just wanted to say thanks for starting this thread and for sharing all of your fabulous material on these great stamps. You have clearly assembled a marvellous collection, and for that, I congratulate you! Anyway, thanks again for all you have shared to date and looking forward to what is to come.
Let me second that motion. I'm in continual awe of thegubman Graham's Oscars. Almost every day someone posts a serious treasure here, but these don't stop. I keep thinking the latest post is the piece de resistance. You keep proving otherwise.
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Post by thegubman on Feb 19, 2022 11:22:28 GMT
Thanks for your kind comments. The bisect covers do not belong to me. I have just posted items from my collection. I may be able to find them online and post a link, if that is acceptable. There are some incredible covers, the Jupiter steamship cover really is a beauty. But I have tried to keep it personal, with some information included from other sources such as rarity guides. Regards Graham
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Feb 19, 2022 12:14:17 GMT
Thanks for your explanation, Graham ( thegubman). Sorry for my misunderstanding--I thought that the bisect covers were part of your collection. That's what happens when I read too quickly! Yes, certainly, you can post a link to show us where we can find images of those items if you wish. I have been really enjoying your posts in any case, and I sincerely admire the collection you have put together. Cheers, Chris
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Post by thegubman on Feb 19, 2022 15:22:31 GMT
Here is a link to the catalogue page for the sale of the 4sk bisect Oscar cover; www.frimerkehuset.no/fcm/auk62/099.HTMThe cover sold for 220,000 NKr, assuming commission of 20% that equates to approx. £22,000 which seems cheap for a one off cover! The text describing the item is; 4 skilling - an exceptional cover sent locally to Christiania with a bisected copy of the 4 skilling Oscar with numeral cancellation "364" (Christiania Bypost) making the local letter rate of 2 skilling. The cover is also cancelled "Christiania Bypost 5.3.1858" in red colour. The use of bisects of Norwegian stamps was declared illegal by the Norwegian Post-office in a departemental circulaire dated March 28th 1858. This is the only recorded genuine cover with a bisected 4 skilling Oscar. Certificates: F.C.Moldenhauer and Finn Aune. And I have snuck in a picture! Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 21, 2022 15:39:58 GMT
Part 34. The scan shows a page with 2sk to 8sk Oscars with Christiania (42) postmarks. There are three types of the numeral 42 and indeed seven types for the CDS. Note a few of the cancellations in blue. These are relatively bountiful and not hard to come by as would be expected for the capital. Other towns such as Bergen (25), Drammen (48), Stavanger (282) etc also have a good supply of stamps with these postmarks. This therefore enables the collector to look for pairs, strips and blocks. Something that I particularly like to collect in all areas of the early Norway and GB stamps. For the skilling Oscars all values can be found as pairs, strips and blocks, however not all to the same extent, as you will see from the pictures that will be put up in the next few weeks. Hence for the 2 and 3 skilling Oscars unused multiples exist more frequently than the 4 and 8 skilling values. Pairs of the unused 4sk are not rare or common, but strips and blocks are rarities. For the 4sk Oscar only seven unused blocks of four are known, larger blocks very scarce indeed. As was said at the beginning the 8sk Oscar is difficult to obtain in unused condition even as a single. Pairs are rare, strips and blocks unused even scarcer. There are only three unused blocks of four of the 8sk and only one block of six, which is the largest unused block for this denomination. For the 2sk unused pairs are not rare, strips can be harder to find. There are fourteen unused blocks of four of the 2sk issue. Larger blocks can be found, with the biggest being a block of thirty. The 3sk Oscar is perhaps the most commonly found of the Oscars in mint condition, with unused pairs are not rare, strips and blocks harder to find. There are sixteen unused blocks of four of the 3sk stamp. The largest block was one of 30, sold in 1942 but sadly believed to have been split up. I do not own any mint multiples of the skilling Oscars in unused condition, which shows how hard they are to obtain on a budget. I will go into more detail about used, blocks, pairs and strips next time. As you will see the rarities are different almost reversed for the four values. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 22, 2022 13:36:49 GMT
Part 35. Skilling Oscars used in pairs, strips and blocks. The 2sk Oscar is frequently found as a pair (4sk being the rate for domestic letters), see earlier covers above. However, anything larger than a pair is rare. there are only two used strips of three and five blocks of four. The 3sk Oscar is likewise often found as a pair, strips of three, four and five are also not rare (as you will see later), there are only two strips of six recorded. There are 27 known blocks of four, whilst larger blocks are very rare. The 4sk Oscar pairs are not rare or common, likewise strips of three and four. Larger strips are rarities. There are only eleven blocks of four recorded, larger blocks seldom seen. The largest block is of forty and cancelled with Christiania 1859 postmark. The 8sk Oscar is frequently found as pairs and strips, they were used to make up the high postage rates for foreign letters. There are 42 known blocks of four for the 8sk issue. Larger blocks are a lot rarer, with the largest size being a block of twenty. The scan below shows 2 to 8sk Oscars in horizontal pairs with Christiania and 42 postmarks. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 23, 2022 10:17:25 GMT
Part 36. Skilling Oscars used in pairs with Christiania (42) postmarks. A couple more scans of pairs from the capital, this time with a few vertical. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 24, 2022 12:14:26 GMT
Part 37. Skilling Oscars used in pairs with Christiania (42) postmarks including a few strips. Note the lack of 2sk strips, highlighting their rarity! Graham
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Post by JeffS on Feb 24, 2022 12:57:52 GMT
thegubman such lovely multiples. Thank you for showing.
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Post by JeffS on Feb 24, 2022 16:59:55 GMT
thegubman Will you be showing examples of used blocks?
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Post by thegubman on Feb 25, 2022 10:24:04 GMT
Part 38. Skilling Oscars used in pairs, strips and one block with Christiania (42) postmarks. All 3sk grey, so it is a grey day. The block is one of 27 known in used condition. I will put a few more blocks up in the coming days. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 26, 2022 9:02:55 GMT
Part 39. Skilling Oscars used in blocks of four 8sk red. Today is a red day, will it be the red shirts of Wales or the red rose of England that comes out on top in the big match this afternoon? Two blocks of four of the 8sk Oscar, the first with numeral 317 of Tonsberg and the second with Sandosund postmark. There does seem to be plenty of strips of the 8sk issue with Sandosund postmarks, presumably as it was a port used by numerous steamships. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Feb 27, 2022 12:59:15 GMT
Part 40. Skilling Oscars used in pairs, strips and block of four with Bergen (25) postmarks. Todays offering consists of pairs, strips and a block of four with Bergen postmarks, which are relatively easy to come by. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Mar 1, 2022 11:41:51 GMT
Part 41. Skilling Oscars used in pairs and strips with Drammen (48) postmarks. Todays offering consists of pairs and strips with Drammen postmarks, which again are relatively easy to come by. There will be one more lot to follow and then that will be me done with the subject for the time being. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Mar 2, 2022 8:28:15 GMT
Part 42. Skilling Oscars used in pairs, strip and block with Christianssund (44) postmarks. Here is the last of my blocks of four and the nicest one. Graham
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Post by thegubman on Mar 3, 2022 8:52:32 GMT
Part 43, summary. Why should you think about collecting Norway Skilling Oscars? 1). The mint stamps and proofs are readily available, the 8sk being difficult to obtain. 2). Postmarks, now this really is a rich area of collecting with many different facets. a). Numeral b). Town (CDS) c). Manuscript, town, numeral, crosses d). Steamship f). Foreign postmarks, for example 383 Hull
3). Covers, again with a wide variety of domestic, local post and foreign destinations. 4). Multiples, pairs, strips and blocks. Perhaps my favourite area. All in all I believe the Skilling Oscars offers a fascinating area of collecting, something for everyone. I will leave you with one last scan, this one clearly of a fake, which would not fool anyone. Graham
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