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Post by octavius on Apr 15, 2022 12:42:19 GMT
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 15, 2022 13:17:47 GMT
I think this is a private precancel South West Electricity Board which they would used on a receipt when a customer paid a bill for electric usage until the 1960s the British Government put a 2d revenue tax on receipts and cheques. Paid with a stamp. The Electric company would have a supply ready to use, with their initials pre printed, so that they could not be stolen and used for postage. N.B. in light of the following posts from khj. I must amend the loose date of use from “until the 1960s” to the more accurate 1 Feb 1972 which is of course the year of conversion to decimal currency
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
On stamps of Great Britain, they are called commercial overprints by those who specialize in them (see Commercial Overprint Society of Great Britain).
After the excise tax was lifted in 1971, remaining stocks of commercial overprints were permitted to be used as postage. Previously, postal use of commercial overprints was limited to certain cases.
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Post by JeffS on Apr 15, 2022 18:36:08 GMT
khj I would love to see such a postal example. Might you have one to share?
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 19:23:07 GMT
I don't collect covers. I can only admire those that have been posted. I can probably pilfer a couple of pics and post them a little later...
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 20:57:49 GMT
None of the following covers are mine. What is usually considered the first Great Britain Commercial Overprint for postal use is the unofficial one from Oxford Union Society. This was intended for postage, not for revenue usage. The society provided free postage stamps to members, but began overprint them to prevent abuse of the benefit. They were vertically overprinted OUS between wavy lines 1859 (I think). The practice was tolerated by the postal service. Below is a cover from 1865. The post office tried to get OUS to print on the backside of the stamp instead. That decade, the post office made arrangements for OUS, and other organizations that had followed suit, to have the overprint made on ungummed stamps, and then gum the stamps afterwards. These are known as Commercial Underprints. Obviously, you have to take an expertizer's word for it that the cover has a stamp with a Commercial Underprint. With the rise of perfin usage that decade, the Commercial Underprints were not a practical option and many went back to using Commercial Overprints for revenue usage. EDIT: I added the phrase "for postal use" in 2nd sentence of first paragraph
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 21:00:40 GMT
I wasn't able to find a post-1970 example of Commercial Overprint used for postage, but here is an illegal example from 1967. Note that Commercial Overprints are not necessarily simple acronyms.
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 21:13:50 GMT
I'm not exactly sure when the post office started to crack down on postal use of Commercial Overprints, but it should have been within a decade or two of the Commercial Underprints. I leave that to other GB & Postal History specialists to provide the correct info...
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 21:30:20 GMT
In the post for the OUS cover, I added the phrase "for postal use" in 2nd sentence of first paragraph. Others were already using Commercial Overprints in the 1850s for revenue usage. Since the 1d stamp duty was started in 1853, that should be the first year of any on-document example of revenue usage.
I did some more research. The duty was increased to 2d in 1920, and completely abolished starting 1Feb1972.
Underprints were offered by the Post Office in 1867, and discontinued in 1882. There was never a restriction on postal use of Underprints, as they were intended as a security measure for postage stamps rather than to preserve identification for fiscal use.
OUS began their postal use Commercial Overprints in 1859, and the Post Office withdrew permission for their postal use 10 years later. I interpret that as meaning postal use of Commercial Overprints were no longer legal starting around 1869. Hopefully, someone who knowns can confirm/correct.
Also bear in mind that my comments are strictly regarding Great Britain Commercial Overprints. Those of other nations/entities were not necessarily restricted from postal use. In this sense, sometimes Commercial Overprints are called Security Overprints, and basically served same purpose as Perfins.
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Post by khj on Apr 15, 2022 22:07:03 GMT
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Post by JeffS on Apr 16, 2022 15:51:40 GMT
khj Thank you for taking the time to answer my enquiry in such detail. I have never been a GB collector and was not aware of commercial overprints as such. I liked the link to the society and pulled up several company pages. Also I did an eBay search on the subject and was amazed at the number (hundreds) of listings for these. My, my. Stamp collecting certainly offers an inquisitive collector many non-mainstream opportunities. Thanks again, Jeff
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