stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 23, 2023 23:31:48 GMT
I believe it is Scott #314 1959-64 described as dull violet
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renden
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Post by renden on Jan 24, 2023 0:41:17 GMT
I believe it is Scott #314 1959-64 described as dull violet I agree with Stan - the dull violet is not evident on the scan shown René
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Post by carabop on Jan 24, 2023 1:29:00 GMT
Thank you. It definitely looks grey but looking at it under a bright light it does have a violet hue. Maybe toning and that’s why it looks grey.
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Post by cjoprey on Jan 24, 2023 20:33:51 GMT
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Post by carabop on Jan 24, 2023 23:58:05 GMT
I think you are correct cjoprey because it is way more grey than violet.
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Post by carabop on May 2, 2023 0:00:06 GMT
I think I found this New Zealand stamp but from what I see it was issued in 2 different years 1915 and 1928 King George V. How do I tell which year this stamps is from?
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 2, 2023 0:14:31 GMT
I think I found this New Zealand stamp but from what I see it was issued in 2 different years 1915 and 1928 King George V. How do I tell which year this stamps is from? According to the Scott catalogue the 1 shilling was issued in 1915 and their number is 159. They give no reference to a 1928 issue. Possibly Stanley Gibbons shows more.
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Post by carabop on May 2, 2023 0:26:17 GMT
I seen it on Colnet for both years.
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Post by khj on May 2, 2023 0:45:15 GMT
Stanley Gibbons lists the 1928 version as a "orange-brown" color variety. From Stanley Gibbons:
#430 (1915) vermillion #430cc (1Feb1928) orange-brown
The 1928 has a major premium, both unused/used.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 2, 2023 0:50:45 GMT
carabop I see that khj has just found the answer about the 1928 issue. I just remembered I had a 1990 New Zealand specialized catalogue and they refer to the colour variation as well. I believe the postmark on your stamp is from 1916 so that would mean it is from an early printing.
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Post by daniel on May 2, 2023 1:04:52 GMT
I see it on Colnect for both years. Stanley Gibbons Commonwealth and Empire Stamps shows this as SG 430 1 shilling vermilion, valuable if watermark inverted. There are multiple listings. SG 430c if perfed 14x14.5. SG 430ca pale orange-red. The 1st February 1928 version is SG 430cc, more valuable, but it is orange-brown. Daniel
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Post by carabop on May 2, 2023 3:11:17 GMT
Thank you all for the information. I learn so much from the great bunch of people we have here.
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Post by paul1 on May 15, 2023 9:00:41 GMT
my usual trick of emptying an old album and forgetting which country I was working. In view of the word 'CORREOS Y TELEGs. - and a value of 25 CENTIMOS - am assuming this one is from somewhere in S. America, and likely there is a connection with a telegraph fee perhaps. Aside from the three black bars, there looks to be a series of spaced horizontal perforations across the lower half of the stamp. Unfortunately, the colour is a very washed out grey - any suggestions please as to correct country will be appreciated. TIA.
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Post by vikingeck on May 15, 2023 9:21:02 GMT
Well I have only part of the answer …..not all.
It is Spain. used for both Postage and Telegraph “Correos y Telegrafos “ normally telegraph use would be cancelled with a punched hole
SG 267 in pale grey or lavender 267c
The bars ?? precancel ?
The puncture marks ??
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TimG
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Post by TimG on May 15, 2023 13:30:50 GMT
Colnect has a real nifty stamp image identifier that I've used time and time again. Just take a picture with your phone, download and then load it into their image cropper. More times than not I find a match. Here's the link: colnect.com/en/stamps/identify
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on May 15, 2023 14:08:58 GMT
Scott # is Spain 246 (grey ultramarine or ultramarine). Looks postally used, as a telegraph usage typically has a hole punched through it.
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Post by paul1 on May 15, 2023 14:28:40 GMT
thanks Vikingeck and TimG - my SG catalogue for Spain is dated 1961 and would appear at that date the non-telegraph examples was listed as SG 425 and 426 - grey and lavender - for the 25 centimos value - however, it matters not now as vikingeck kindly now given enough of the answer to run it done on the screen. This is apparently King Alfonso XII and the stamp was first issued 1879 - in the flesh I don't see any lavender on my stamp, so am assuming this is the pale grey version. So, that's two colours to avoid - yellow and pale grey;-) Perhaps it's the horizontal line of semi-perfs. that indicate the telegraph use. Thanks again folks and will try the colnect link soon.
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Post by vikingeck on May 15, 2023 14:43:58 GMT
Hi paul1 you need to get a newer catalogue !! I have 1963, 1973 and 2015. The 1963 numbers match your 1961, but for the revised edition of 1973 and newer catalogues all the various shades of the earlies were given "a" or "b" suffixes thus telescoping the range of numbers used. so your SG 425 is now SG267 with the lavender now 267a
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Post by paul1 on May 15, 2023 15:15:52 GMT
yes, agree I need an up-to-date catalogue for sure. I'm a boot sale fanatic - my 1961 copy of 'EUROPE & COLONIES' was £1. early one morning, and I thought at that price I can't go wrong - how wrong can you be;-)
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Post by gstamps on May 15, 2023 15:17:52 GMT
paul1, This is the bar canceled remainders. I can't find my examples for Spanish Cuba
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Post by philatelia on May 15, 2023 15:18:28 GMT
Or use Colnect instead of buying a new catalog and you’ll have the numbers for all the catalogs free. I’d be major bumming if they ever close that website!
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Post by carabop on May 16, 2023 1:34:54 GMT
I can't seem to find this particular stamp. I have found other Tiger & Elephants Issues but this one eludes me any help is appreciated.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 16, 2023 1:39:11 GMT
Carolee ( carabop ), if you have a Scott Catalogue, look under Malaya. Below is an excerpt from the 2021 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue. Yours appears to be Sc14 $1 Green & Light Green, and one of the examples with a revenue cancel, therefore "plentiful and inexpensive", according to Scott. Edit: Carolee, I should also add that stamps of this design are known to be printed with inks fugitive to water. Your example is faded because it has most likely been soaked in water, and the ink has partially dissolved. If you look at the image from the catalogue listing and compare it to yours, you can readily see the difference in the color. The denomination and country name plates are intact, but all the rest of the design has been affected.
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Post by carabop on May 16, 2023 13:32:41 GMT
Thank you Chris Beryllium Guy I don’t have the Scott catalog except for US as my sister and I just started collecting WW this year. I did notice the stamp was washed out it is good to know it was probably because of the ink and being soaked. I should probably get the other Scott catalogs.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 16, 2023 17:03:45 GMT
Carolee ( carabop), please send me a PM with your email address, and I will help you to get some WW catalogues.
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Post by hdm1950 on May 17, 2023 2:28:20 GMT
Working my way through an old collection and this stamp was mounted with China. I am thinking some sort of revenue but I am not certain it is from China and which way is up. I have no great expectations but curiosity has me wondering what it is. The stamp identification app came up with nothing close.
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Post by cjd on May 17, 2023 3:19:40 GMT
I don't think I have one to confirm this, but I think it's Korean, and maybe upside down.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 17, 2023 4:18:21 GMT
Thanks for your post, Hugh ( hdm1950 ). I agree with cjd on orientation; I think the posted image is upside down. Please see it below in what I think is the correct orientation. As for where it's from, I am less sure about that. If it was Korean, as Collin suggests, then I would have expected to see more circles as elements in the characters, which is typical of Korean characters as compared to Chinese or Japanese, for example. But my knowledge of Chinese characters is a bit rudimentary, so let's ask others who know more: darkormex , khj , Philatarium , rainbowhugz , Linda , unechan , others? I have tried to recreate the characters from the upper inscription here: 紙證入收市壤平 According to Google Translate, if this is Japanese, it would mean: Ippei Paper Certificate Market
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Post by Linda on May 17, 2023 8:30:43 GMT
Beryllium Guy The written symbols that are visible enough to me are indeed Chinese characters. This seems to be a very old piece of history that the text is orientated in the ancient style. Therefore, the inscription should be read from right to left: so 平壤市收入證紙. The first 3 characters means Pyongyang city, the capital of North Korea. 收入 = income. 證紙 = certificate paper. I suppose this was issued when Korea (South or North, for what matters) still used Chinese characters in their writing system.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 17, 2023 10:53:33 GMT
I don't think I have one to confirm this, but I think it's Korean, and maybe upside down. Due to the corner ornaments I was thinking possibly Korean as well and as you say possibly upside down. I posted it as it was mounted in the album. Thanks Linda Linda for your input on this mystery item. Everything in this album dates from the mid 1950's and earlier. UPDATE: I did a search of Korean Revenue stamps on eBay and found several more like mine and also a few other values from the series. This is one description: 'Issued in 1930 by Pyongyang Special City Government. During 1930's, it is under Japan occupation.' The printing of the one I found is a more primitive than some which makes me wonder if there were forgeries around.
As suspected no great value. One looking like mine sold for 2.00 US. Sellers listing ones of superior printing are asking much higher prices.
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