philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jul 22, 2022 21:04:03 GMT
Hmmmm this one is a possibility for a color missing error. I can’t see any trace of the orange background ink using my strongest loupe. This is Scott 779. I may have to send this in for expertising. No mention in Hibernian.   |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 23, 2022 14:10:59 GMT
agree, it looks an interesting absence of colour. My usual pessimistic thoughts are that with my luck this would have been spotted long before it got to me - certainly is a massively missing area, and otherwise it looks bone fide. Did this come from kiloware can you remember? Hope it turns our to be a colour error.
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 24, 2022 12:58:45 GMT
Interesting Terri , I found this damaged example by chance this morning. The orange is paler ( faded?) but the black is more intense  P |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jul 24, 2022 13:32:23 GMT
The intensity of the black seems to vary. The pic that I posted above has very intense orange, but a more muted black. I haven’t studied this series as much as I would like, but I know that it has plenty of interesting variations, especially in the denominations. I got out my mini scope, and I still can’t see any traces of orange. Normally with fading, I can still see the very slight variation caused by those microdots, but on this one I’m not seeing that. BUT a true color missing error would have to have not a single speck of the color and I don’t have anything with the magnification required to be conclusive. I did have a nice microscope a few years ago, but the darn thing broke! The adjustment jammed so it’s rather useless. Hubby insists that he can fix it, but it’s been sitting on a shelf in his office for over 20 years. LoL - my soulmate and I are both Olympic level procrastinators!  paul1 , this turned up in an auction lot I just purchased. |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 24, 2022 14:35:02 GMT
thanks Terri - commiserations re the microscope, and remember - procrastination is the thief of time but diarrhea waits for no one - Olympic level or otherwise. Just for interest and the possibility that the colours of your stamp are fugitive to light, see the attached picture of SG 838, the U.K. Christmas 4d. - from set of three stamps - from December 1970, where I'm assuming that the lower 'pink' stamps have in fact suffered that fate - the upper examples are how I believe the 'red' should look. These few were like this when they came to me some two or three years back, and I did ask a guy called Fred for his expert opinion - though not sure if he contributes here - and he assured me the pale examples had simply faded from exposure to sunlight - apparently the damage is caused by the small amount of u.v. in the spectrum - a well known bleacher of colour. These might possibly have lain in a shop window for weeks. Perhaps whatever they use for modern 'red' colouring is questionable as to guaranteeing lightfast. On the other hand perhaps I have a unique pair and they're worth big bucks  |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 24, 2022 18:53:45 GMT
Terri ( philatelia), many thanks for starting this thread... is it a color omission or a changeling or something in between? Always worth wrangling over, since as paul1 has mentioned and I am sure you already know, it could be the difference between a mere curiosity and something of significant value. I will start off by the disclaimer that I have no special expertise in this area. Looking at the two nice-resolution scans you have provided, Terri, I did notice something, and I am not sure if it makes a difference or not, but I will toss it out there for consideration. Looking at the scan in which the orange color is there, I notice that the orange seems to appear in dots or pixels, covering the entire stamp, including over the legend "EIRE 28" near the bottom. The dot pattern looks continuous to me. On the other hand, I notice that on the example which is missing the orange color, there still seem to be pixels evident in the letters, despite the fact that they are completely missing from the rest of the stamp. I don't know if this means anything at all in answer to your question, but I just wanted to point it out. Hope this may help to unravel the mystery.  |
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