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Post by rod222 on Sept 27, 2013 10:40:44 GMT
A page of "famous" reproductions, the name escapes me, perhaps someone can recall them? if so, would appreciate. Hinged on Printed H.E. Harris Page. Despite the quoted prices, I would assume all are dodgy.  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 27, 2013 13:03:43 GMT
Those are the Springfield reprints/forgeries; these were printed from the 1930s on, by the Tatham Stamp Co. of Springfield Mass. for use in their books about CSA postal history. Although there are a few genuine examples in that lot also! Neat lookin' stuff!
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 27, 2013 14:40:20 GMT
You may want to further research those if your interested I'l post a small list of people of interest that may be the origins of some of those.
Samuel C. Upham counterfeits / forgeries
May be a S. Allan Taylor in that bunch also
De La Rue unissued "Altered Plate" by George Linn
James is the one who could tell you almost anything about these!
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 27, 2013 20:06:03 GMT
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Post by Ryan on Sept 28, 2013 1:29:07 GMT
Both of these links are bad, the "..." breaks them. Do you have the correct links? I'd be interested especially in the first article, as I doubt I have anything genuine among my piles of stuff! Ryan |
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 28, 2013 1:33:08 GMT
Yes I'll have to dig them up quick The I can open up the PDF but I can't get the link to work here for some reason?
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 28, 2013 1:42:19 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Sept 28, 2013 3:27:40 GMT
Super stuff Jeff, one of the huge benefits of the Internet, information at the fingertips, marvelous detailed work from dedicated authors. I can't see how it can get any better. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 28, 2013 13:02:36 GMT
Your most Welcome. James is the one that can enlighten you on the specifics of what you have. He's a whiz at that stuff and has a marvelous CSA, CSA fakes & Forgeries collection. Hopefully he'll pop in here.
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Post by jamesw on Oct 1, 2013 2:44:16 GMT
OH, JEFF! You make me blush! Ah doo declair! (where's my parasol)
Looks like you've got it covered on the website front, ILS. Dr. Kimbrough's sight is amazing, and I've emailed him a couple of times with questions. He's very gracious with his time.
I lost all of my bookmarked sites a while ago when Firefox abandoned my aging Mac computer.
I think I'd agree with Jeff that your stamps look like Springfields. The quality of the paper (newsprint) and numbers on the backs are dead giveaways. Bear in mind these were printed over the space of about 10 years or so and the quality really varies. Some can look pretty good.
I'm intrigued by your 5¢ Jeff Davis on the left with the 55 pound (can't find the key command) under it. Looks like a S. Allan Taylor forgery. He used wood cuts instead of litho, and are pretty crude. I've got a few and think they're terrific.
Nice bunch though. Thanks for inviting me over!
ps. Despite what Jeff says, I'm no expert. There's a lot to learn about these things. I'm aching to get a hold of some of August Dietz's books, he's the expert.
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Post by jamesw on Oct 1, 2013 2:50:09 GMT
Here's a couple of good CSA sites I've managed to copy from one of my postings on SCF. www.csafakes.comAnd Trish Kaufmann is a REAL expert. Check out here site. www.csadealer.com/And that forgeries article Jeff posted is terrific. Definitely read that. |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 1, 2013 3:00:28 GMT
Fully gummed (light yellowish) with the usual adherents, bits of page etc. Stiffish paper.   |
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Post by jamesw on Oct 1, 2013 3:22:11 GMT
What a handsome fellow! Can you give us close ups of the Davis' in the centre (above 1863) and on the right?
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Post by jamesw on Oct 1, 2013 3:23:16 GMT
I've been sucked in by this interweb thingy again! I've got to go to bed! I'll look for your scans tomorrow.
Cheery pip!
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Post by I.L.S. on Oct 4, 2013 0:44:23 GMT
LOL You crack me up James! Seriously though flattery aside, James has an extensive collection of these and really does know his stuff. I actually stole his links for this thread from over at SCF so I can take no credit except for what I learned from his link and wisdom. OK I'm off to bed. "G'night" or "G'day" mate (if your an Aussie)  -Jeff |
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Post by jamesw on Oct 5, 2013 21:20:36 GMT
Hey Rod! I really would like to see a closeup scan of the 5¢ Jeff Davis (third row centre, just above the 1863 date) when you get a minute. I have suspicions it may be a New York forgery, as opposed to a Springfield. thanks.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 6, 2013 1:14:33 GMT
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Post by jamesw on Oct 6, 2013 1:49:35 GMT
No, Jeff was right, a Springfield all the way, right down to the facsimile number. A New York forgery is recognized by a smaller cross stroke on the F, as well as a small dot in the upper left corner just to the right of the six pointed star. When the image was small on my screen, the cross stroke looked shortened.
False alarm. Thanks for taking the time to scan though.
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Post by I.L.S. on Dec 22, 2013 8:50:50 GMT
Not sure I would call the Tatham's forgeries. Reproductions would better suit.I like them though. They had a nice idea with the booklets. I have tried to find one or two more for my Flag collection but they are just too expensive. This one came at a very reasonable price !  Semantics my dear Watson...LB1 is correct, the definitions are vastly different so reproductions IS the better choice. -Jeff |
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Post by ratio411 on Dec 16, 2014 5:02:04 GMT
When I was digging around my bulk, pretty much unsorted, stuff the other day, looking for items
to add to my give-away, I had a pleasant surprise and found a sleeve containing full pages of
CSA stamps! They are counterfeit/reproductions of course. I wish they were real... but I'll take
some repops that are probably a few few decades old, at least. They are sheets, as I said, but
each and every stamp in each sheet has the word "facsimile" printed on the back, no gum of course.
There is one sheet for each CSA design.
I need to investigate now and find out the details on what they are exactly and from whom.
They look like the previously posted pics of "blocks of four", but a whole sheet. So maybe they
are made by the same people.
What are your opinions...
Should I cut them up into singles and fours, or leave them as sheets?
I like the idea of cutting them, they go further that way. If I leave them as sheets, I only have
one set, and it is harder to display. If I have several sets, I can display easier, share some,
trade some, etc...
Thoughts?
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Post by rod222 on Dec 16, 2014 6:06:17 GMT
Opinion:
Generally speaking, one should leave the stamps as is, once tampered, for whatever reason, the damage is done.
You are the caretaker of the item, so it is up to you,
It is your decision.
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Post by jamesw on Dec 17, 2014 1:23:26 GMT
I'd have to agree with Rod here. I'd leave full sheets in their natural state. They're happier that way.
But ultimately the decision is yours.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2015 14:30:18 GMT
42 Australians fought in the American Civil War, on the side of the Confederates. Under Captain James Waddell, of the Shenandoah (ex Sea King)  |
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Post by jamesw on Jan 26, 2015 1:42:09 GMT
You entry is interesting to me, Rod, right down to the captains name being so similar to yours truly.
In another ironic twist, I have an older daughter (from a previous relationship - yes, the plot thickens!) who lives in...wait for it... Shenandoah VA.!
I s**t you not!
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Post by rod222 on Jan 26, 2015 3:53:50 GMT
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 27, 2015 7:55:52 GMT
OH, JEFF! You make me blush! Ah doo declair! (where's my parasol) Looks like you've got it covered on the website front, ILS. Dr. Kimbrough's sight is amazing, and I've emailed him a couple of times with questions. He's very gracious with his time. I lost all of my bookmarked sites a while ago when Firefox abandoned my aging Mac computer. I think I'd agree with Jeff that your stamps look like Springfields. The quality of the paper (newsprint) and numbers on the backs are dead giveaways. Bear in mind these were printed over the space of about 10 years or so and the quality really varies. Some can look pretty good. I'm intrigued by your 5¢ Jeff Davis on the left with the 55 pound (can't find the key command) under it. Looks like a S. Allan Taylor forgery. He used wood cuts instead of litho, and are pretty crude. I've got a few and think they're terrific. Nice bunch though. Thanks for inviting me over! ps. Despite what Jeff says, I'm no expert. There's a lot to learn about these things. I'm aching to get a hold of some of August Dietz's books, he's the expert. Well for not being an expert I certainly learned most of what I know about CSA fakes, forgeries and re-prints, as well as actual CSA material from you so that should count for something right? You're a very humble person and I like that about you James. You are a wonderful friend and wonderful person but yet I still don't know what you look like? That's a post for another time I suppose? Your friend (hopefully) -Jeff |
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 27, 2015 7:59:25 GMT
42 Australians fought in the American Civil War, on the side of the Confederates. Under Captain James Waddell, of the Shenandoah (ex Sea King) ... I had no idea the Australians was involved in the US Civil War? Fascinating!! THANK YOU!! |
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