hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Nov 5, 2022 0:16:59 GMT
Till this evening I had these revenue stamps included with my Canada revenues. Not finding them in my Canada Revenues catalogue I began to doubt my initial thoughts. Tonight I am pretty sure they are clipped from Scottish money orders. Too bad they were cut off the documents. EDIT Thanks to daniel I now know these are from England. They date from 1918 or earlier based on the one penny rate.   |
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Post by daniel on Nov 5, 2022 1:28:25 GMT
Till this evening I had these revenue stamps included with my Canada revenues. Not finding them in my Canada Revenues catalogue I began to doubt my initial thoughts. Tonight I am pretty sure they are clipped from Scottish money orders. Too bad they were cut off the documents. Hugh, these are British General Duty Revenues Stamps. They were used mainly on cheques and receipts. From 1895 the emblem opposite the die letters determined the country of origin. So, a rose for England, a thistle for Scotland and a shamrock for Ireland, later Northern Ireland. Therefore, yours are from English cheques. The duty was raised to 2d in 1918 and was abolished in 1971. Daniel |
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hdm1950
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Posts: 1,603
What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Nov 5, 2022 2:24:15 GMT
Till this evening I had these revenue stamps included with my Canada revenues. Not finding them in my Canada Revenues catalogue I began to doubt my initial thoughts. Tonight I am pretty sure they are clipped from Scottish money orders. Too bad they were cut off the documents. Hugh, these are British General Duty Revenues Stamps. They were used mainly on cheques and receipts. From 1895 the emblem opposite the die letters determined the country of origin. So, a rose for England, a thistle for Scotland and a shamrock for Ireland, later Northern Ireland. Therefore, yours are from English cheques. The duty was raised to 2d in 1918 and was abolished in 1971. Daniel Thanks daniel for sharing this info. Possibly the Admin can switch the original post to the proper home. Our hobby is a constant learning experience. |
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Post by paul1 on Aug 21, 2023 18:05:31 GMT
anyone care to expand on what this is .......... presumably postal stationery - possibly somewhere early in the C20. The HU is possibly for Hull, and figure 4 may indicate that designated area - 4 is fairly central in Hull. No idea what the 7 and 11 signfy - perhaps a date in some form.  |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 21, 2023 18:26:34 GMT
Thanks for your post, paul1. I have no expertise in this area, but here’s an observation: as the word POSTAGE does not appear on your cutout, I am guessing that it is a revenue item rather than postal stationery. But that’s just a guess, and others probably know more! Also, if it is a revenue item, I would further guess that the three numbers may indicate the date: 4th July 1911. I have seen similar dates on revenue stamps from British India, for example. |
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hdm1950
Member
Posts: 1,603
What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 21, 2023 18:48:24 GMT
anyone care to expand on what this is .......... presumably postal stationery - possibly somewhere early in the C20. The HU is possibly for Hull, and figure 4 may indicate that designated area - 4 is fairly central in Hull. No idea what the 7 and 11 signfy - perhaps a date in some form. These are a revenue stamp from England. I had posted similar last year. thestampforum.boards.net/post/155687/thread . More information can be found on that thread. |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 21, 2023 18:58:11 GMT
Hugh ( hdm1950), thanks for the reminder about this previous thread. paul1, I have moved your post and the two responses to this thread specifically on this topic, where you can see more of the same sort of material. Thanks to both Hugh and daniel for their previous posts in this area, especially Daniel for a very nice explanation about the design of these. |
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Post by paul1 on Aug 21, 2023 21:13:05 GMT
thanks to Berillium Guy (Chris), hdm1950 (Hugh) and Daniel, and thanks Chris for moving to a more appropriate location. I thought I'd become better at spotting the presence or absence of the word 'Postage' which indicates whether a postal or fiscal receipt material - but a lapse on this one it seems - hand on heart I've not been involved in cutting round this one, this is exactly how it reached me and can't now recall from whence it came. For the U.K. it's quite common to find examples of the Q.E. II mid-brown 2d. Dorothy Wilding definitives - mostly signed - acting as the legal requirement as a receipt on financial/fiscal items. Seems remarkable that the value of the 'receipt' stamp should have remained at 2d. for so long. See attached picture showing George V, George VI and Q.E. II examples of this '2d.' value which appear to have been used for similar purposes - gents, is my understanding of the use of these later examples correct? I suppose it was the 4th of July that did it for you guys;-) Big thanks again.  |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 21, 2023 21:26:14 GMT
paul1 wrote: Please remember that Hugh's ( hdm1950) original post was made in the QV Postal Stationery thread, where you posted your revenue example. The link was pointing you to this thread, which is on the correct subject. Now that I have moved the posts, of course the link points to this thread. Does that make sense?
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Post by paul1 on Aug 22, 2023 7:30:21 GMT
thanks Berillium Guy (Chris) - I think I confused myself substantially - please ignore those comments, in fact I deleted my words when the penny dropped - now all o.k. Chris.
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