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Post by stainlessb on Apr 24, 2023 23:58:07 GMT
I saw nothing spefic ( Admin move if you have a better spot!) The 1943-46 issues Chiffre Taxe, which differ mainly in the 'footer" which in the 1946-55 issues is Timbre Taxe. The latter has two higher denominations, but all issues 10c - 29F are pretty much the same color.... I can find no catalogues indicating color variants, but alas, I do believe there are, as well as some stamps printed on a yellow paper (There were trials printed on yellow paper, but no further mention) As can be seen below there appears to be color variants- especially where I have multiples (one of each gets a bit sketchy) 10c brown on yellowish paper, and a brown black on whiter paper 30c lilac-rose and a 'fuschia" rose 50c - may or may not be a variant 1F a blue -violet (on somewhat yelloish paper, and a more blue on white 1F59c red... maybe 2F blue-green light and dark? 3F red-orange light and dark  Does anyone jave any information beyond what is in Y&T, Maury Ceres & Dallay, etc? |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 25, 2023 0:23:27 GMT
Stan ( stainlessb ), I just emailed you the 2006 Scott WW Catalogue listings for these. They are definitely listed as postage due issues.  France, Sc J69-J79, inscribed FRANCE & CHIFFRE-TAXE, issued 1943-46 France, Sc J80-J92, inscribed FRANCE & TIMBRE TAXE, issued 1946-53 France, Sc J93-J97, inscribed REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE & TIMBRE TAXE, issued 1960 Source: 2006 Scott Worldwide Postage Stamp Catalogue |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 25, 2023 13:50:24 GMT
Beryllium Guy Got it thanks! For the benefit of others who didn't receive the e-mail /response... - It matches Y&T and Maury with the exception ofScotts numbering being different and several colors are described by a different name (touquise versus blue-green), but still only one color listed per denomination
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 27, 2023 20:39:29 GMT
Received today TX80 which completes this series (although my 100F is used). The stamp on the left has the "short "c" variation "50c". This is the 2nd highest CV stamp (next to the 100F)  I still want to get a few more of the various denominations as there does seem to be color vareties for many of the denominations before I make pages. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 27, 2023 22:10:47 GMT
Very nice, Stan ( stainlessb)! By the way, I have finally added the image of the excerpt from the Scott Catalogue to my earlier post. Sorry for the delay. |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 27, 2023 22:16:17 GMT
Thanks Chris!
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Post by greaden on Apr 27, 2023 22:25:17 GMT
Chiffre-taxe vs Timbre-taxe is one of those areas stamp dealers often mix up. I am still looking for used J79. That is one of those maddening stamps that might be rarer than catalog values suggest.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 27, 2023 23:02:52 GMT
seems many of these stamps are more readily available as 'mint'
If I spot one I'll let you know.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 2, 2024 22:04:31 GMT
Here are blocks of 4 and coin dates from the 1943-1960 series from my collection. According to my eyes, there are numerous shades in this series. I have never seen any of these identified in a catalog, which is a bit disappointing. I am up at our cabin in the snow right now, so I don't have access to my collection, but I will assemble some shade comparisons when I get back this weekend. The internet is also slow, as it is satellite based.   |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 2, 2024 22:13:50 GMT
Nice (once again!) I agree there seems to be color variants, though the catalogues don't say much. seems 'typical' for BoB
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 2, 2024 22:29:50 GMT
I agree that France BoB, especially taxe, but even airmail and Preos (to a lesser degree) are under-represented in terms of varieties and shades. I forgot to address your mention of a different paper for the 10c. I have encountered many issues in the 1930s-1940s that seem have a different paper type, usually grayer. I know I read somewhere, probably Scott, that most issues in this time period could be printed on a different paper. It would be interesting to see what your extensive references say on the matter.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 2, 2024 22:35:54 GMT
Here are the "Timbre-Taxe" versions of 1946-1955. I am, unfortunately, missing the 100f high value in a block of 4.   |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 2, 2024 22:46:50 GMT
I see what I can find on paper types... although what i have found in the past, is if listed not a great deal of details, or several variants of the same (like GC pale, GC Grey, GC white, etc....)
I have looked for references specifically for BoB, but not much luck so far. Even some papers /monographs would be helpful.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 3, 2024 20:25:06 GMT
Maybe we should write a monograph, can't be all that difficult, right?
Anyway, here is the last set of sheaves of wheat design, the 1960 set after the currency change, in blocks of 4 and coin dates. These sets are complete.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 3, 2024 20:36:11 GMT
I stop at 1959 for France (the year I started collecting), but I do have some of the decimal issues.
Have you seen any color variant / shade of the 100F? So far, I have only found one color *Green/Vert)
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 3, 2024 23:45:32 GMT
I don't have access to my collection right now, but as I recall, there were only color shades through the 5f, maybe the 10f.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 3, 2024 23:54:45 GMT
I've started translating pages, but it is tedious and some of what Google translates comes up with requires a bit more research so a sentence makes sense.
It's just about time for the evening duties, but tomorrow I'll get back on the translating and list what color shades I think I see from what i have.
and look for a PM - a monologue or just an initial article could be a good start. lacking a great deal of references to rely on, we can take it where it seems to lead!
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Post by renden on Apr 4, 2024 0:19:30 GMT
I've started translating pages, but it is tedious and some of what Google translates comes up with requires a bit more research so a sentence makes sense. It's just about time for the evening duties, but tomorrow I'll get back on the translating and list what color shades I think I see from what i have. and look for a PM - a monologue or just an initial article could be a good start. lacking a great deal of references to rely on, we can take it where it seems to lead! Stan, I would take a hit at your text.......in french........PM please !! René |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 4, 2024 14:57:05 GMT
renden René Thank you my friend for the offer!! I shall have something to you shortly!!! Stan
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Post by renden on Apr 4, 2024 15:02:15 GMT
renden René Thank you my friend for the offer!! I shall have something to you shortly!!! Stan Stan If it is French to English, I try LOL!! If German to English, no way.........  René |
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