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Post by decentguy on Jun 7, 2023 18:22:55 GMT
Can anybody pls advise on any recommendations? also out of curiosity roughly how long does the whole process take?
Best Regards
Roni
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Post by Mr. H on Jun 7, 2023 19:52:30 GMT
As a member, I use the American Philatelic Societies Expertizing Service (APEX). Pricing is dependent on the catalog price of the stamp submitted.
It's running at least 90 days for results (I submitted two items on 2/28 and still have not seen the results)
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Post by decentguy on Jun 8, 2023 7:15:07 GMT
wow that long ? many thanks buddy .. Cheers
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 8, 2023 8:02:26 GMT
Thanks for your post, Roni ( decentguy) I would add to the response of Mr. H that in part, choice of expertizer should also depend on what the item is. For US stamps, I agree that APEX would be a pretty good choice. For other stamps, it would be prudent to do some research of your own to determine the level of expertise in some of the organizations and/or dealers who offer certificates. I have seen several certs for Cape Triangles, for example, that I would consider questionable. In general, I would venture to suggest that seeking expertizing services in the country of origin of the stamps you want examined is a reasonable starting point. Hope this helps a little. |
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angore
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Post by angore on Jun 8, 2023 10:11:32 GMT
There was an article in the latest issue of the American Philatelist (APS journal) by Wayne Youngblood regarding certification. He stresses that what you are getting is an OPINION of those that reviewed it at the time. A different set of reviewers could have a different opinion and at some time later their opinions can change. That is reviewers can have bad days. Also, as technology improves, opinions have changed on prior reviewed items.
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 8, 2023 10:30:39 GMT
For GB and Commonwealth. The Royal PS of London RPSL is best recognised authority, but even they don’t always get it right.
In 2001 a friend had an early Victorian penny red cat £3000 which the Royal was “unable to give an opinion” so his buyer declined the deal. Last year we sent the same stamp to the Royal , got a positive opinion this time and we managed to sell for over £1000 to the original buyer 20 years on !
.they charge about £30 for members , double that for nonmembers. It can take 6-8 weeks for a cert.
Consequently unless it is a rare and expensive item cat $$$$ and you need a cert for selling expertising may be a needless luxury.
But I guess from previous postings here you are still chasing those mysterious green US 2 cents so you want an American opinion.
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Post by decentguy on Jun 18, 2023 6:06:27 GMT
Thank You so much boys! Your advise is much appreciated from me to you all.... Very Good memory Alex, just between you and I  ... every single time I had raised a question or a concern in majority of my posts... I think lots of the times I may had come across as rude or maybe abrupt, It was never my intension ... getting carried away and easily over excited is in my personality but always with good intensions. Thank You all for being patient with me.. I Take my Hat off to You Alex and Also Kim ... Even tho he never says anything I wanna hear but I love the guy regardless .... I had made a promise to myself I must get Kim to agree with me just once in the next coming year ... or maybe he will in my next thread I post ... beside that the guy is a genius I learnt a lot from him >>> Thanks Kim! ... Much love and respect to you all. Best Regards Roni |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 18, 2023 6:36:33 GMT
Thanks for your post, Roni ( decentguy ) I would add to the response of Mr. H that in part, choice of expertizer should also depend on what the item is. For US stamps, I agree that APEX would be a pretty good choice. For other stamps, it would be prudent to do some research of your own to determine the level of expertise in some of the organizations and/or dealers who offer certificates. I have seen several certs for Cape Triangles, for example, that I would consider questionable. In general, I would venture to suggest that seeking expertizing services in the country of origin of the stamps you want examined is a reasonable starting point. Hope this helps a little. Cheese matie! I think my next post you going to love and at the same time laugh your head off |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 23, 2023 9:37:57 GMT
Thanks for your post, Roni ( decentguy ) I would add to the response of Mr. H that in part, choice of expertizer should also depend on what the item is. For US stamps, I agree that APEX would be a pretty good choice. For other stamps, it would be prudent to do some research of your own to determine the level of expertise in some of the organizations and/or dealers who offer certificates. I have seen several certs for Cape Triangles, for example, that I would consider questionable. In general, I would venture to suggest that seeking expertizing services in the country of origin of the stamps you want examined is a reasonable starting point. Hope this helps a little. Cheese matie! I think my next post you going to love and at the same time laugh your head off Pls let us just make whatever post I made to date all be in the past... starting a new Chapter Now .... one of our legendary members always had it right! I am just looking forward to hearing some opinions on the next image I am just about to post  Best Regards To All |
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Post by michael on Jun 23, 2023 11:17:59 GMT
I've learnt a lot from the 1 cent Franklin discussions, thanks. So based on a recent post by khj I'll say they are #632s (perf 11x10½). Better to wait for an expert though... |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 23, 2023 11:48:07 GMT
I've learnt a lot from the 1 cent Franklin discussions, thanks. So based on a recent post by khj I'll say they are #632s (perf 11x10½). Better to wait for an expert though... That is exactly what I initially said too. After further intense investigations my brain did a 180-degree turn ... but like you said let us hear it from the experts... Cheers Buddy. |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 23, 2023 11:51:36 GMT
Just thought I might add, That color does not do it justice ...its actually dark green. I think my scanner is due for retirement by the looks of things...
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 23, 2023 12:43:10 GMT
Green, dark green, or any shade in between, impossible to verify from a scan since most scanners vary and the final picture depends on the monitor screen settings, and used stamps with have aged in 100 years.
To me it just looks like a pair of badly centred common US stamps, which if well centred would still be a 20c job. But then I'm no expert, just a collector with 70 years experience.
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Post by decentguy on Jun 24, 2023 1:45:18 GMT
WOW WOW I hope my 40 years of fun/experience didn't all go to waste! BUT I GUESS you still got 30 years up on me .... |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 24, 2023 1:48:44 GMT
Green, dark green, or any shade in between, impossible to verify from a scan since most scanners vary and the final picture depends on the monitor screen settings, and used stamps with have aged in 100 years. To me it just looks like a pair of badly centred common US stamps, which if well centred would still be a 20c job. But then I'm no expert, just a collector with 70 years experience. Ok maybe these images I am about to upload might give a clearer picture...      |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 24, 2023 1:49:38 GMT
AhhhHAAA |
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Post by decentguy on Jun 24, 2023 6:19:17 GMT
Commmmeee Onnnnnnn People where is the Love ?!
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Post by decentguy on Jun 24, 2023 6:31:08 GMT
WELL AT LEAST FIRST SEEN ON TSF AYE ?! |
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 24, 2023 10:36:09 GMT
decentguy it appears you already have your mind made up that you have a special pair of stamps. Having a member here confirm it for you is worth little. It has to be sent to an expertise firm that specializes in US stamps to get a certificate. I am sure it is not your intention but your posted replies come across as rude and against the spirit of this forum. I am sorry to speak out like this but it becomes frustrating to keep going down this path every few months.
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Post by anglobob on Jun 24, 2023 11:19:19 GMT
The expression flogging a dead horse comes to mind......
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Post by JeffS on Jun 24, 2023 12:40:02 GMT
decentguy it appears you already have your mind made up that you have a special pair of stamps. Having a member here confirm it for you is worth little. It has to be sent to an expertise firm that specializes in US stamps to get a certificate. I am sure it is not your intention but your posted replies come across as rude and against the spirit of this forum. I am sorry to speak out like this but it becomes frustrating to keep going down this path every few months. May I add, flippant and disrespectful. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2023 21:38:23 GMT
decentguy, If you believe that you have found a rarity then you should commit some of that newfound wealth to having the pair expertized.
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Post by decentguy on Jul 2, 2023 9:23:35 GMT
decentguy it appears you already have your mind made up that you have a special pair of stamps. Having a member here confirm it for you is worth little. It has to be sent to an expertise firm that specializes in US stamps to get a certificate. I am sure it is not your intention but your posted replies come across as rude and against the spirit of this forum. I am sorry to speak out like this but it becomes frustrating to keep going down this path every few months. May I add, flippant and disrespectful. May I add FYI rude that's one thing I am not, in fact, I am actually totally against rude people ... So sorry JeffS you think that of me from reading a few words that I wrote ... Maybe we had met before Jeff ... My apologies if I am wrong... Is this the Jeff who drives a red Truck and does stand-up comedy occasionally?? Have a nice day! |
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Post by decentguy on Jul 2, 2023 9:26:09 GMT
decentguy , If you believe that you have found a rarity then you should commit some of that newfound wealth to having the pair expertized. Thank You Sir. I will definitely do just that. Regards Roni |
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Post by Admin on Jul 2, 2023 12:59:20 GMT
decentguy, Please make sure that you share the findings (and good luck!).
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 31, 2023 15:00:52 GMT
As this thread has not been active recently I thought I could show a recent U.S. discovery of a very rare shade  of the 1918 Washington 1c . Not listed in my Scott Classic so it must be very rare   . (shown here alongside another with a scarce inverted postmark.)  My friend Fred* has promised me a certificate to authenticate that it was indeed a stamp. We have called the newly discovered shade “pale apple green” or “apfelsaft” * Fred is a plumber/ electrician, unfortunately he is colour blind. |
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Post by khj on Jul 31, 2023 15:56:29 GMT
Hey, is that Right Said Fred? You know his opinion is right, despite being color-blind -- because he doesn't have to rely on his eyes. Anyone who is that sexy must be right when it comes to stamps! He's too sexy for his stamps...  k |
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 31, 2023 16:04:00 GMT
Hey, is that Right Said Fred? You know his opinion is right, despite being color-blind -- because he doesn't have to rely on his eyes. Anyone who is that sexy must be right when it comes to stamps! He's too sexy for his stamps... k The very guy! I forgot to mention the "fancy cancel", (known as the scarce "hairy caterpillar" cancel ) |
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Post by khj on Jul 31, 2023 18:08:44 GMT
I was tied down with our annual June camps, and went on a long delayed trip back to Asia for July, so I haven't had time to comment on this until now. I'll say they are #632s (perf 11x10½). Michael is correct, it's a Scott US #632 pair. There is no need to supply pictures with the perf gauge. Using a simple copy/paste+rotate/align method I mentioned elsewhere, you can clearly see after lining up the horizontal vs vertical perforations, they are off by ½ hole every 11 holes. Therefore the stamp must be the compound perforation #632. I know a handful of you are really good and are able to see the difference between 10½ and 11 just by eyeballing the perfs. I'm not able to do that the great majority of the time. But I'm not going to save/upload/post the picture of a manipulation to prove it, because I'm still on vacation and it's 2AM here. Nobody has to take my word for it, given that my opinion is free and behind a userid rather than on a paid certificate. Anybody has a right to disagree with my thoughts, and should feel free to go out and get a paid expert opinion. I'm fine with that. Back to my regularly scheduled vacation... k |
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... every single time I had raised a question or a concern in majority of my posts... I think lots of the times I may had come across as rude or maybe abrupt, It was never my intension ... getting carried away and easily over excited is in my personality but always with good intensions. Thank You all for being patient with me.. I Take my Hat off to You Alex and Also Kim ... Even tho he never says anything I wanna hear but I love the guy regardless 
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