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Post by jamesw on Feb 21, 2015 17:58:04 GMT
Though I don't collect foreign covers generally, I'm do keep ones I find interesting. Just came into possession of this Brit cover with a #111. It is back cancelled Newport NS October19, 1898. But my question is about the cancel on the front. Is it a fancy cancel (Did they do fancy cork cancels in Britain?) or just a horribly smudged CDS? Thoughts?
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Post by tallanent on Feb 21, 2015 18:26:49 GMT
It is a poor strike of one of the NPB (News Paper Branch) cancellations applied in London to newpapers, circulars etc being sent abroad
Top quality strikes of these seem to be getting harder to aquire and most have a smudged look to a greater or lesser degree due to the nature of the items being sent
ALLAN
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Post by jamesw on Feb 21, 2015 18:56:31 GMT
Ah, thank you Allan. Now, when I rotate the image I can tell what I'm looking for. I can see a double strike, with a PB at the top.
 Will search for an image of a good strike to illustrate the album page. Interestingly, while the envelope isn't in the greatest shape (back flap is missing and sides are torn) the contents are still intact. An mimeographed (or similarly copied) handwritten note to fruit growers about the benefits of shipping their produce abroad with newly developed cold-storage methods. |
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Post by tallanent on Feb 21, 2015 19:06:18 GMT
Try searching for N P B (with the spaces between the letters) in the database at www.philatelicweb.com/pmks/index.phpI am sure that a fairly close match could be found for illustration uses ALLAN |
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Post by rod222 on Feb 22, 2015 13:55:51 GMT
Though I don't collect foreign covers generally, I'm do keep ones I find interesting. Just came into possession of this Brit cover with a #111. It is back cancelled Newport NS October19, 1898. But my question is about the cancel on the front. Is it a fancy cancel (Did they do fancy cork cancels in Britain?) or just a horribly smudged CDS? Thoughts? With respect, I disagree with Allan. This is not a CDS either. It is, I believe a postmark that comes under the heading of "Postmarks: Printed Matter" and is a lined (smudged) circular, with the marking FS / bar / 12 (the diagonals representing levels) This was the "Foreign Section" of mails handled by the GPO, that grew from the "FB" obliterator (Foreign Branch) most often seen on Cover. I'll see if I can arrange a scan. This is a variant  |
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Post by tallanent on Feb 22, 2015 14:16:51 GMT
With respect, I disagree with Allan. ... This is the great thing about open situations to trow ideas about Having taken another look at this, I agree with Rod ..... F S postmark I would howver advise caution in assigning a number to this example as I am aware that there are numbers going up as far as 111 as well letters at the base Nice pick up Rod .... Regards .. Allan |
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Post by jamesw on Feb 22, 2015 14:24:18 GMT
You guys are awesome! The funny thing is, tallanent said PB, I saw a PB. Rod says FS, I see FS.
Tell me it's a unicorn playing a zither, I'll see that too!
Seriously, thanks for your input!
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Post by cjd on Feb 23, 2015 2:09:14 GMT
FS for sure, but I can't make out a number. Not even a good guess. I suppose it could be sorted from the seller's location?
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Post by rod222 on Feb 23, 2015 13:32:20 GMT
FS for sure, but I can't make out a number. Not even a good guess. I suppose it could be sorted from the seller's location? I don't think so Collin, These "Postmarks : Printed Matter" were all confined to the London district, that's why I have assumed "12" is the only representative number, the other being "W.1" but I will stand corrected. I am guessing, but as I see it, only one department handled the London material going overseas. Further...  |
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