khj
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Post by khj on Jun 17, 2019 0:00:26 GMT
I am starting a new thread to reply to a post in another thread, because I felt my replies were taking the original thread off topic. My apologies to tobben63, OP of that thread. Canadians usually collect out coils (and I suppose most others) as pairs. I did find it odd that German coils are perfed all around. The only way to tell sheet from coil is that one in 10 (or so) stamps has a control number on the backside. I just happened to win a lot that included coil strips of 5, but am not intending to look for their coils. Too much like sheet stamps, if you ask me Plust it's a cash grab to have collector add strips of 5 (!) to every coil stamp there is! In Canada, there are jump strips, usually collected in strip of 4 and line pairs to add to the usual pairs. Some do collect singles, but most collect in pairs. Starting/ending strips of up to 20 blank labels & 2 stamps are also available. But they are just too ridiculous for me. But ours, like the Americans are imperfects on top/bottom or sides. Why is German odd in how they do theirs? Although most coils are perforated only one pair of opposite sides, the Germans are not alone in producing coils that are perforated all around. A few other countries also do it, although not necessarily all the time and not in the volume that Germany produces. In particular, a number of the Middle Eastern countries also make fully perforated coils -- off the top of my head, that includes Kuwait, Jordan, Libya... Some of those coils had limited distribution, so they tend to have minor premiums in the catalog. Some of them were only issued as fully-perforated coils, but again, because of limited distribution, have a premium associated.
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Jun 17, 2019 3:20:10 GMT
I think Switzerland also do this. Some of these stamps has a control number on the back. And if examined closely it can be possible to see it on the way the perfs are on the tip, if they are cut or torn of.
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Jun 17, 2019 3:41:04 GMT
Some of the earliast german coils (1905) were produced from sheets,teared into strips of ten,what where pasted together. All early coil-stamps are listed in strips of 11,as they do not differ from sheet-stamps. The first issue,where later coils had printed counting nos. on backside was the 1954 Heuß I series. From then on single stamps with numbers are listed. If there are people who like to collect such coil stamps in strips of two,three or whatever it is up to them. All modern german stamps from October 1994 onwards were printed in sheets of 10. So strips of 3 ,where sheets are printed 2 by 5 and strips of 6 where sheets are 5 by 2 are proof of coils. Horizontal pairs (to prove stamps from sheets) are also listed,where stamps were issued in sheets and in coils. (catalogue listings of Michel)
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 17, 2019 12:10:21 GMT
What a way to fleece collectors!
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Post by alanl on Jun 17, 2019 18:03:25 GMT
British Machin coils are perfed on 4 sides.
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 17, 2019 20:56:38 GMT
So is there a point to collecting coils that look like sheet or booklet stamps?
Maybe I'll just stick to sheet stamps and forget about Machin coils. I have just begun, so there is a lot to wither take in, or ignore yet!
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