hijabihomegirl
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Post by hijabihomegirl on Sept 17, 2020 9:24:29 GMT
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this as I'm still getting used to the forum layout. So I'm super excited tonight. Just found a penny red in my stamp box, my first one and it's not the best condition but it's a start. I'm pretty sure it's Scott's #12 but someone wrote 141 on the back. Could I get a double check? I can't find my perf gauge anywhere and going off of online catalogs right now.  |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 17, 2020 11:05:16 GMT
This is not my area (I do collect GB but not gone deep into it yet) but I see in the border of each side of the stamp there is the number 141. I think this refer to the position of the stamp in the sheet. See this Wikipedia article for more info. |
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Londonbus1
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Post by Londonbus1 on Sept 17, 2020 11:05:40 GMT
Hi hijabihomegirl I don't have a Scott catalogue handy but the SG# is 44 issue 1858-79. Number on reverse is the plate number which you will find on the side of the stamp. A nice Duplex cancel for Ipswich, very well centered. Shame about the missing corner but a keeper. Londonbus1 |
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Post by Admin on Sept 17, 2020 12:37:15 GMT
hijabihomegirl , Your stamp is Scott 33 (design A10), printed from plate #141 -- the position letters on Scott 12 only appear in the bottom corners, as with the Penny Black (design A1). As stated previously, the plate numbers on this Penny Red are engraved on both sides of the stamp.
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 17, 2020 13:41:17 GMT
This is not my area (I do collect GB but not gone deep into it yet) but I see in the border of each side of the stamp there is the number 141. I think this refer to the position of the stamp in the sheet. The 141 is the number of the printing plate on this series of penny reds which have letters in all four corners. Different plates number from 70 up to 225 as these stamps were used for many years. Some are scarcer, e.g. No 77 is worth a small fortune The letters in the bottom two corners give the position out of 240 impressions on the sheet AA is first stamp in top row A. Next to it would be stamp AB, AC .........AL. The second row letters would start BA BB , and so on to row TA TB ..........TL |
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hijabihomegirl
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Post by hijabihomegirl on Sept 17, 2020 19:31:49 GMT
Thank you all! You can tell I've never needed to learn about the reds yet and hadn't even seen the plate number in the border. I think I'll have to take time to dig deeper in to the black and reds when I have a chance. I'm just still very surprised I found this at all since my stamp tub is where I put the random cheap ebay lots with basic commons.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Mar 6, 2024 23:37:09 GMT
Query
Penny Red Letters all four corners
Finally found (assumed) 2 similar stamps, Plate 140 SG-GS
Now, toggling the two stamps, all look identical, excepting the "G" which is differs in each.
Would that dictate, my reading of the Plate number in one of the stamps is in error?
or is it possible to have "re entered" ID letters or recut ID letters in Plate 140 ?
One of the stamps could be Plate 149 the '0" is difficult to assess.
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