philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 16:36:57 GMT
A few nice cancels; Small single circle Jakobstad  More small single circle  Tammerfors  |
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 16:39:30 GMT
Box cancels   |
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 16:53:05 GMT
Double Circle Blue cancel and then a black one Helsingfors   |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 16:54:11 GMT
A spiffy pair with small circle cds  |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 21, 2020 17:31:56 GMT
I never realized these early "perfs" weren't actually perforation but a.... um... toothy zig-zag cuts (?!)  |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 18:25:59 GMT
Serpentines is their designation - sounds kinda “snakey” lol!
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 18:29:26 GMT
A pen cancel with faint CDs. Facit lists several pen cancels that are identified with particular cities.   |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Dec 21, 2020 18:38:06 GMT
Some of these Finland serpentine perfs have teeth that are folded over. I’ve tried to unfold them, but they are so fragile that they break off too easily. So now I leave them as is. First do no harm, eh?
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Post by renden on Dec 21, 2020 19:09:52 GMT
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 29, 2021 16:43:25 GMT
Terri ( philatelia ), I recently told you about some old Finland covers (including one postal card) that I found while in California. Here is a photo:  Top Left: Finland, Sc176D, 5m sapphire (dark blue) definitive stamp postmarked in blue ink on 03-Dec-1945 Top Right: Finland, Sc135, 1½m blue green and red violet definitive stamp postmarked on 05-Oct-1926 Bottom Left: Finland, Sc41, 20p orange definitive stamp postmarked on 22-Apr-1900 Bottom Right: Finland postal card 9m surcharged on 7m dark red (will gladly add a catalogue number if someone can supply one) So, Terri, these four items were mailed out today and are now on their way to you. I hope they will arrive safely.  |
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 29, 2021 17:13:30 GMT
Items 2 and 3 above are railway sorting carriage cancels for Mail handled on a postal wagon on a train. I think the straightline mark on cover 2 is the name of little railway halt where the item was posted.
COVER 1 is interesting with the Red Cross logo . General Mannerheim was the Finnish leader in the 1940s wars with Russia.
As I read the text this seems to be on behalf of a Mannerheims association for prisoners of war relief.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 29, 2021 21:40:11 GMT
Thank you very much for your insights on these covers, Alex ( vikingeck).... great stuff! I had no idea about these, and now they will be for Terri ( philatelia) to study. I am glad to know that there may be some interesting aspects to these. |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jan 30, 2021 1:13:29 GMT
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 30, 2021 8:55:47 GMT
Thank you very much for your insights on these covers, Alex ( vikingeck ).... great stuff! I had no idea about these, and now they will be for Terri ( philatelia ) to study. I am glad to know that there may be some interesting aspects to these. As I have said , and will continue to say, “Postal History is not just Stamps Collecting” |
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Post by stanley64 on Jan 30, 2021 11:09:05 GMT
For those interested and following up on Alex's ( vikingeck) comment on postal history, here is an worthwhile resource,
As for my own interests, this is other bout of TPOs/RPOs to learn and study...
Happy collecting!
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Jan 8, 2022 23:26:12 GMT
A few years ago I started picking these up now and then; fascinating but tricky; Finnish figure cancels. This on a high denomination F24, 1 mark. The stamp was issued 1885, in use until 1889. That’s most of what I'm certain of. Figuring the town/village is the tough part. From the source I’m using, Laitinen, this is figure cancel no. 182A from Nystad/Uusiaupunki.
What I know: these were used mostly by small post offices, from 1875 to 1890, with declining frequency through the early 1900s, as date cancellers reached smaller post offices. All look like cork or soft wood carvings. Laitinen says the idea seems imported, probably from figure cancels in the US. All are simple, usually cross-work like this one. Nothing as glorious as a running chicken. But a hell of a lot cheaper.
I wish I knew more about the rest of the letter. Was there a date cancel, and the figure just a stamp killer? Or was this it, like Laitinen thought?
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Post by philatelia on Feb 18, 2024 9:59:25 GMT
kasvik - looking through a recent purchase, I just found a page of Finnish cork cancels similar to the one you posted. I’d love to learn more about these - Is the source you cited print or online? Thanks 
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Post by JeffS on Feb 18, 2024 10:42:58 GMT
@kasvic Those corks are stunning!
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Post by rod222 on Feb 18, 2024 10:53:34 GMT
@kasvik philateliaThis is a first for me, was not aware Finland had fancy cancels ! Nothing in my database. I have a Finnish Pmk monograph, nothing there. I checked Klaseboer (Volume 2) 1875 -1890 He shows 6 examples, no additional information, his first a Green 5 penni, shows one similar to Aaron's example. None match Terri's page. One shows a tramp steamer, with billowing smoke, he considers something similar he had seen on a German Stamp. |
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Post by philatelia on Feb 18, 2024 12:06:08 GMT
@kasvic Those corks are stunning! Thanks, Jeff - those are actually from a collection I purchased recently rod222 - thanks for researching for info! I’ve been googling and haven’t found much information other than a collection on EBay. |
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Post by JeffS on Feb 18, 2024 12:14:08 GMT
@kasvic Those corks are stunning! Thanks, Jeff - those are actually from a collection I purchased recently rod222 - thanks for researching for info! I’ve been googling and haven’t found much information other than a collection on EBay. Oops, too early for me to read correctly🥱 |
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Post by rod222 on Feb 18, 2024 13:51:39 GMT
Finland Fancy Cancels If you go here on ebay, some cancels are named $1,645. HELSINGFORS NIKOLAISTAD NYSTRANYKALEBY LOIMIJOKI NYSTRA (I may have spelling incorrect) link@kasvik Quote I wish I knew more about the rest of the letter. Was there a date cancel, and the figure just a stamp killer? Jay Smith has a cover, with the fancy cancel obliterating the stamp, and a CDS postmark alongside (JOENSUU) For identification of cork cancels see: Aaro Laitinen, Suomen Kuvioleimat – Hinnasto / Finlands Figurstamplar – Priskatalog / The Figure Cancellations of Finland - Price Catalogue / Die Figurenstempel Finnlands - Preiskatalog  |
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Post by philatelia on Feb 18, 2024 14:27:03 GMT
The reference kasvik, Aaron gave, Laitinen, is mentioned in Facit. The full title is “Aaro Laitinen, “ The Figure Cancellations of Finland.” Does anyone have a copy? |
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Post by philatelia on Feb 18, 2024 14:28:03 GMT
We must have been writing at the same time, Rod! When I posted my reply, your info popped up! Now to find a copy of that book!
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Post by rod222 on Feb 18, 2024 14:36:40 GMT
We must have been writing at the same time, Rod! When I posted my reply, your info popped up! Now to find a copy of that book!  I exhausted my searches, sorry, (I was not after to purchase) If jay Smith does not have it, it's going to be a tough ask. If you are in a major US location, maybe order it through lending library? |
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Post by philatelia on Feb 18, 2024 14:46:23 GMT
I found a copy of the book for sale on a Finnish auction site, but the seller will not ship overseas. Drat! Maybe the APRL (American Philatelic Research Library ) has a copy I could borrow. Aaron might have a copy, too. Thanks for the help, Rod. rod222 You’re amazing! You know this search did yield a Finnish specialty auction that might turn out to be a real help - so research always seems to educate and yield unexpected results. Time well spent! |
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Post by cursus on Feb 19, 2024 1:02:15 GMT
Perhaps, we can help you from the European Union. Would they send to Spain? If so, I can buy it for you.
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Post by kasvik on Feb 21, 2024 18:59:36 GMT
The reference kasvik , Aaron gave, Laitinen, is mentioned in Facit. The full title is “Aaro Laitinen, “ The Figure Cancellations of Finland.” Does anyone have a copy?
There is a copy of Laitinen's book at the SCC Library, www.scc-online.org/library.php .They might insist you join the SCC if you haven't already. Then they'll send it to you. Check with Roger Cichorz, rcichorz@comcast.net He is very helpful; runs the SCC Library and sponsors quarterly SCC auctions, with lots of literature. You might be bidding against me! But don't let that inhibit you.
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Post by philatelia on Feb 21, 2024 20:23:45 GMT
Perhaps, we can help you from the European Union. Would they send to Spain? If so, I can buy it for you. That is extremely kind! Thank you! But they only ship to Finland. |
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Post by philatelia on Mar 19, 2024 11:26:54 GMT
A few Finland covers from a recent auction lot purchase; February 16, 1821 stampless cover with Åbo city postal marking   1873 cover with a 40 Penni coat of arms. Facit calls the “Ank” cancel / marking an “arrival” cancellation  1914 Censored cover from Finland to Chicago. Addressed to Lister Co - as in “Listerine.” Dated 31 10 14 — Halloween? Franked with a Russian stamp   |
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