alan
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Post by alan on Mar 8, 2022 21:29:50 GMT
Hello Everyone,
This example is my 1850 without frame around the Cross Scott #8 A13 10r yel, blk & red
3 errors I spotted:
1. That white band running from the bottom to the top of the shield on the right side should not be there. This narrow white band is 3 mm wide.
At first I thought it was a color shift, but no. Lets focus on the red first. If the red color was put in the wrong spot when printed, it would have gone over the left black border of the shield by 1.5 mm. Nope, the red on the left side of the shield stays within the black line border and is where it should be proving no color shift of the red ink. This stamp is missing 1.5 mm of red ink on the right side of the shield.
2. The right side of the shield is also missing 1.5 mm of the yellow ink. No color shift there either because the shift would have to be going in the wrong direction for the white paper to be exposed. I can't see how the machine would have run out of both red & yellow ink in this 3 mm area. Looks odd, liked a stamping error causing this 3 mm white channel to appear.
3. On the right upper side of the shield around 1 o'clock, there is a narrow black short curved line that should not be there. There should only be only one solid thick black line creating a narrow channel of yellow ink between the shield & this thick black line. Just zoom in and compare it to the left side of the shield to spot the difference.
Here is the back pix, if needed.
Ever see anything like this before?
Alan
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khj
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Post by khj on Mar 9, 2022 1:03:11 GMT
Disregard the black ink. White area can only be caused by misregistration of the red ink relative to the yellow. Yellow defines the white area, the red shield is supposed to fit perfectly into that white area. When one of those 2 colors gets shifted, the original paper shows up. In my opinion, you have a greater than normal color misregistration. Most collectors prefer undamaged copies that have near perfect color registration. Whether your color misregistration makes it worth less or more to a buyer, is in the eyes of the buyer. I didn't check whether genuine or forgery.
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alan
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Post by alan on Mar 9, 2022 13:06:31 GMT
Many thanks to khj for explaining the reason for the white band.
Looks like their quality control person missed this one 172 years ago !
Keep up the GREAT WORK !
Alan
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Mar 9, 2022 13:57:34 GMT
I´m glad,that mine is nearly faultless !
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kasvik
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What I collect: Cancels mostly, especially Sweden Gävle and Lidingö, Switzerland Geneva, Germany Pforzheim
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Post by kasvik on Mar 10, 2022 2:06:08 GMT
Hello Everyone, This example is my 1850 without frame around the Cross Scott #8 A13 10r yel, blk & red Yep, the Rayons are a mess of variations. The were lithographed back when lithography was cheap, fast and generally awful. Yours has a nice PP cancel. That adds value. It looks real enough, and the price of Rayon II typically are border-line for justifying authentication. I just assume they're real unless absurd.
Back story: Swiss Post was desperate struggling to keep up with Swiss federalization and postal unification. They got almost nothing right. As you know only too well, the variant with the white cross improperly framed is the just the most famous. The Rayons were controversial and embarrassing, in use for just few years before they were replaced with the engraved Strubels in 1854. And the printing of those was even worse. It wasn't until 1862 that the cheapskates at Swiss Post were abused enough to get with the Federal Mint for printing. Finally someone could deliver as promised. The variations slowed, to the regret of (very rich or very crazy) collectors who feast on endless Rayon and Strubel-era goofs.
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alan
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Post by alan on Mar 10, 2022 14:33:02 GMT
Kasvik,
LOL
Loved your comment " cheapskates at Swiss Post "
One would think that their issuance of new stamps would be perfect back in 1850, but no.
Any idea of how many of these 1850 10r were made?
Thank you again for sharing some history about this one.
Alan
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alan
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Post by alan on Mar 10, 2022 19:16:11 GMT
Salentin,
That is one great looking stamp! Thank you for sharing it.
Woulda been even greater if there was an outline around the Cross.
I'm now in contact with the folks at Scott to check if they will include mine with CM (color misintegration) in their 2023 Specialized Catalogue.
Wish me luck!
Alan
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