zipper
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What I collect: Classic GB, QV, France Ceres/Napoleon, Classic U.S., Cinderella & Poster Stamps
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Post by zipper on May 10, 2022 21:58:06 GMT
British East Africa QV 1896 2 1/2a used SG 68  |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on May 12, 2022 10:57:16 GMT
This territory's stamps (mainly used in Mombasa and Lemu) lasted from 1890-1901 when it merged with the UGANDA protectorate, and in 1920 became Kenya and Uganda. Tanganyika the former German Colony was jointly administered from 1933. The stamps in SG catalogues are listed as forerunners of Kenya Uganda & Tanganyika "KUT" and would normally be collected together with the variously labelled BRITISH EAST AFRICA COMPANY , BRITISH EAST AFRICA PROTECTORATE, EAST AFRICA & UGANDA PROTECTORATE , KENYA & UGANDA, KUT , until independence in the 1960s
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angore
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What I collect: WW, focus on British Empire
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Post by angore on May 13, 2022 10:07:42 GMT
I only have two issues in my British East Africa collection.  British East Africa Scott No. 1 (image from First Issues Collectors Club website).  |
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 26, 2022 12:40:31 GMT
British East Africa
1896-1901 QV Issue, Watermarked Crown & CAWhile I was at the stamp shop in Stratford-upon-Avon this past Sunday, I was inspired by Zipper's ( zipper ) post to start this new thread, so I asked the dealer what he had available. He offered me a nice deal on the partial set shown below. I like the design of these QV stamps very much.... thanks, Zip!  British East Africa, SG65-68, SG70, SG72-73, and SG79. The first seven are mint hinged (MH), and the 5R is lightly used.
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Post by paul1 on May 26, 2022 13:51:20 GMT
agree, very nice part set - the colours look fresh and have to say most people would have such pieces at or near the top of their list, but then these are from a time when stamps were real works of art. Do these come under the heading of line engraved?
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on May 26, 2022 15:03:40 GMT
No These are not Line engraved which would leave the ink raised on the surface
It is not possible to get the solid areas of colour by purely line engraving.
There will certainly have been some engraving done on the original die, but like De La Rue's printing for Victoria Stamps for GB I believe these are surface printed
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 26, 2022 15:17:59 GMT
Thanks for your post, Alex ( vikingeck ). I am happy to be corrected on this point. Is "recess" printing different than "line engraving" then? The SG Catalogue lists these as "Recess DLR", and when I checked online, I found a source that stated that recess printing was the same as line engraving. Perhaps I misread or misunderstood that. Thanks again. I have removed the earlier post. |
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on May 26, 2022 16:07:46 GMT
According to Michel the stamps are engraved.(Stich-Tief-Druck). Recess and engraved is virtually the same,although there are different ways to get the engraving done, by direct cutting into the metal or by using acid.But the printing method remains the same.
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Post by paul1 on May 26, 2022 16:20:03 GMT
thanks to vikingeck and Beryllium Guy - have to say I was being lazy and should have consulted the books for this question, and have now looked in the James Mackay S.G. 'Philatelic Terms Illustrated' booklet for the answer. Line engraving, which is the simplest method of producing an image by cutting lines into the metal, filling them with ink and then pressing, doesn't lend itself to producing solid areas of colour, as vikingeck has explained. It seems to also be called 'recess-printing' - so confusing, but ignoring the Italian word it makes sense as a description if you're cutting into the metal then filling with ink, so line engraving and recess-printing appear to be descriptions of a more or less identical process. The full process, as used by printers of stamps, is far from simple - the image being transferred more than once onto various metals which are then hardened. So, as vikingeck has explained 'surface printing' it is for the pieces in question - according to said booklet the alternative description is 'Letterpress'. All too long-winded to describe these things here - would recommend getting the booklet which v.g. and v. useful. With me a little knowledge is dangerous, at times;-)
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Post by daniel on May 26, 2022 16:44:15 GMT
If you look at a decent image with good resolution, such as here, you will see that what appears to be 'solid areas of colour' are not. They are recess printed. Daniel |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on May 26, 2022 18:48:18 GMT
Mea culpa . In haste . I guess I got this one wrong . ‘
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cjoprey
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Scanning stamps for my website...
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What I collect: Belgium (predominantly), British Commonwealth (older ones), WW (whatever comes my way...)
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Post by cjoprey on Feb 19, 2023 20:34:10 GMT
Another nice little acquisition from this weekend: Scott #25, 1890:  |
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