tomiseksj
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Woodbridge, Virginia, USA
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What I collect: Worldwide stamps/covers, Cinderellas, Ohio Prepaid Sales Tax Receipts, U.S. WWII Ration ephemera
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 23, 2013 23:19:16 GMT
When I first started collecting in the late-1970s, my sole focus was on collecting U.S. stamps, starting with the then-present day issues and working backwards as best my limited budget would allow. It wasn't until renewed my collecting interest several years ago and joined several online forums that I became hooked on the allure of covers. What really peaked my interest was the realization that current state of digitization had enabled me to occasionally get a glimpse into the life of either the sender, the recipient, or both -- after that I was hooked. Attached are four covers that I picked up in an ebay auction -- nothing particularly special about them but I hadn't purchased any covers lately and thought the enjoyment derived from looking into the addressees would be worth the few dollar they cost me -- they were delivered yesterday. I haven't begun to research them yet but I'll get there eventually.
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I.L.S.
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I am in Clearfield, Pa. I love US Classic covers!
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Post by I.L.S. on Jul 24, 2013 17:30:59 GMT
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Post by Perfs14 on Jul 25, 2013 4:17:34 GMT
Very nice cover, but as I know little about this issue , I cannot see a broken hat lol
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ncbucki
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Greetings to all! I really do like having individual forums based on global area. Many
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Post by ncbucki on Jul 25, 2013 10:49:11 GMT
Well, I'm finally back home after traveling a bit, so hope to get some posts in! The broken hat on 231, by the way, is on the hat of the figure to the front figure to the left of Columbus. I started collecting covers in the early 1950's with my grandfather's help. I currently have about 8,000 covers (not including today's mail! - haha). In a couple of weeks I will be giving a talk at our local stamp club on "Do fdc's and ffc's get a bum rap?" I will try to post some of my more interesting covers here.
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tomiseksj
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Woodbridge, Virginia, USA
Posts: 6,265
What I collect: Worldwide stamps/covers, Cinderellas, Ohio Prepaid Sales Tax Receipts, U.S. WWII Ration ephemera
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 25, 2013 12:22:19 GMT
Don, Glad you made it back safely. We look forward to seeing your covers! Perfs14, Here is a close-up of the broken hat:
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Post by Perfs14 on Jul 25, 2013 12:40:43 GMT
Thanks, I can see it now!
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I.L.S.
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I am in Clearfield, Pa. I love US Classic covers!
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Post by I.L.S. on Jul 26, 2013 11:19:48 GMT
Sorry I didn't explain this better. I'm on my brothers mac and besides basic typing I'm lost! lol I'm a PC man! Glad you like it.
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Post by jamesw on Jul 23, 2019 2:57:11 GMT
If you all don't mind, I'm going to revive this post from 2013! I see most of it's participants are no longer with us - ILS of course we lost 4 years ago, the others are inactive. I hope for the best and that they're healthy and happy. Me? I love covers, as you may know. I returned to stamps a mere 9 years ago after being away from collecting for over 3 decades. I had a few covers and post cards in my old collection, but nothing spectacular. I focused on Canadian and US stamps, and started going to stamp shows, something I'd never done before. This opened up a whole new world. While window shopping I saw tables of envelopes and cards. Many going back over a hundred years. I love history, so the ideas that these had been THERE intrigued me. The handwriting and postal marks were often beautiful. So I slowly dipped my metaphorical to, and now my collection is 10 binders and growing. Now I look for old mail where ever I go, bourses, antique stores, flea markets, garage sales, you name it. Stampless have become my favourites, probably because each is so unique.
So that's me. What about the rest of you? What got you hooked?
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 23, 2019 10:47:45 GMT
Well I collected for years, USA, GB, British commonwealth until I hit on early Denmark. By about 1980 I had a good specialised collection of all the printings and plate varieties on the 1851-1864 period and found it difficult to get much new material to continue my interest. Postmarks became an interesting hunt and I then started looking at the use of these stamps on cover, the various denominations and rates and the different destinations.Sometimes the address was more interesting than the common stamp and if there was a letter with it, the cover led me into social history .
Now I have sold my Denmark and as I look at the ways Wars have interfered in the delivery of mail I am hooked on covers and seldom buy stamps just for the stamp. Every cover tells a story and the research is fun and rewarding thanks to the wonders of the internet.
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Jul 23, 2019 12:46:03 GMT
My late dad what a cover "freak", mostly Canada but through the past years have added USA covers, World covers to the collection and bought some classic Canada covers too. I did receive through givaways many nice covers from Israel, Russia, and France as well as many US covers. Too many names to re-thank.......they know who they are and am still grateful !!
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 23, 2019 20:23:05 GMT
James ( jamesw), I just wanted to say thanks for reviving this thread.... it's great to see a good one gone dormant come back to life! I especially like the chance to make even a small connection with I.L.S. and other early TSF Members. Thanks to vikingeck and renden for contributing to the revival, too! To answer your question: I am a great lover of cinema. Ever see the movie Music and Lyrics starring Hugh Grant and Drew Barrymore? There is a great line in that movie when the Hugh Grant character questions the Barrymore character about the relationship of music and lyrics in a song. I can't find the exact quote, but she compares the relationship between music and lyrics to a relationship between a man and a woman. She says something along the lines of "Music is what physically attracts us to the other person, but the lyrics are their story..." I think it is a similar thing with stamps and covers. I am attracted to the item initially because of the stamps, but in the end, the cover tells the story of how the stamp(s) completed its mission, such as where it came from, where it went, how it got there, what message it brought with it, the time period when all of this happened, etc. While I do not officially collect covers, I must admit that I like them very, very much.
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Post by stamphinger on Aug 19, 2019 17:40:05 GMT
There was time when I did not collect any covers. In fact, I used to accuse my fellow stamp club members who collected covers of buying them solely for the cachets. Then around the turn of the 21st century, I did a complete reversal and collecting stamps became secondary to collecting covers. What caused my conversion was the realization that it was the interrelationship of a cachet, corner card, the postmark, the addressee, the stamp, or other auxiliary markings on the envelope that caused me to appreciate a cover and collect it. Conversely, I also realized that I was not interested in envelopes with cachets or other printing on them that had no stamp or had not been postally serviced. An unused illustrated post card, for example, was just a photo or piece of commercial art work, not something I would buy.
While I was still an avid stamp collector, covers became my primary collecting focus. That led to collecting a variety of covers such as aircraft on covers, covers addressed to noteworthy people, covers from philatelic publications, stamp dealers covers, philatelic events, stamp clubs and philatelic organizations, commercial covers with advertising, cinderellas on cover, NAMW covers, Christmas covers, selected first-day covers used commercially, airmail covers with variant borders, covers with religious themes, selected postmarks and slogan cancels, Iowa- and Oklahoma-related covers, and covers with novelty or cartoon cachets. I have posted some of these categories on this forum, others remain buried in my albums.
I remain an avid collector of both stamps and covers, but I am again going through a transition stage as I move from covers being my primary focus to acquiring cinderellas. To what depth that collecting field might develop, I am not yet certain.
Don StampHinger
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anglobob
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What I collect: France and French Colonies,French cinderellas British Commonwealth QE2
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Post by anglobob on Aug 19, 2019 18:03:51 GMT
Don.....acquiring cinderellas can be very addictive.Cinderellas on covers even worse.........
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Aug 19, 2019 19:09:59 GMT
stamphingerMy late dad had a collection of at least 100 of these covers, certainly not "postal" but to commemorate the passing in our City, Edmundston, of the "Discovery train" on October 13,14 and 15, 1979 - Organized by Canada National Museums. A variety of Canada Stamps decorate each cover. Envelopes were printed by my late dad's "printing office" which explains the logo LM (Le Madawaska) which was also the name of his Newspaper (french) Can you help me define what type of cover these 100+ would be - all Postmarked on the 3 dates of visit - Thanks !! René ............an example
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Doe
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What I collect: Chicago Baseball & Lou Gehrig covers, Mars Exploration covers, Zeppelins & Manned Stratospheric Balloons , Anti-Fascism, Classic China (thru A31), Hong Kong (thru A25)
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Post by Doe on Aug 19, 2019 21:30:27 GMT
I was already a postcard collector, so that helped, but I think the beginning of getting hooked on covers was the discovery of event covers.
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Post by stamphinger on Aug 19, 2019 21:35:23 GMT
Hi Rene:
Well, I'm not sure how I would categorize them or what to make of these covers. They look like they were postmarked by the Edmundston post office, so I would consider them postally serviced. They do not, however, appear to be what is usually referred to as a philatelic event cover. I believe I would call them a cultural event cover.
When I first read your description of the covers, I thought of the "Freedom Train" that toured the U.S. in 1975-1976 to publicize the Bicentennial Year, or the Royal Train that in 1939 carried the royal family across Canada. There were multitudinous covers prepared for both of those events and covers can be found in abundance for sale on eBay. A quick search of Canadian covers on eBay did not turn up any prepared to commemorate the museum train's visit to Canadian cities. Do you know, were your father's covers commemorating the Edmundston visit the only ones that commemorated the train's route and stops? I find it unusual that collectors and dealers in other cities did not prepare a cover or two commemorating the event, especially since it appears there is a commemorative postmark for Edmundston. Perhaps, I was using incorrect search terms. I used "Discovery Train," and "National Museums." Is the postmark "official" or is that a privately prepared commemorative postmark? If that is a privately prepared postmark that would put the covers in a whole different category. Not sure how to classify them, fantasy items, perhaps?
What about the cachets? Were they all the same with different franking, or were they all different cachets with similar franking? If the cachets were different, that would be a good sub-organization group arranged, perhaps, chronologically by topic. The one you posted was of a prehistoric theme.
I find your father's effort to commemorate this train an extraordinary effort and this cover group interesting in its own right. Would you start a thread and post some other examples. Maybe others on the forum have one or more covers commemorating the train's visit to other cities.
Thanks for posting.
Don StampHinger
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Aug 19, 2019 22:06:40 GMT
stamphingerYour response is appreciated - As for a new thread on this subject - I do not think it is time right now as I am too involved in other projects, i.e FRANCE It was a commemorative Postmark for Edmundston and my late dad had the contacts with Canada Post to do what he wished, being a "Publisher" etc. The nice thing about these 100+ covers are the variety of Canada stamps, for the same event (3 days). I would consider that a "personal dad project" and the BOX is a testimony of his interest. Thanks again !!....may the box live forever ! René could post a few more....just for this event
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Cinderellas and some Ephemera from Great Britain, France and Israel plus a few beautiful bits from elsewhere !! Topical interests include Flags & Judaica, the latter with an emphasis on the Jewish National Fund.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 20, 2019 5:14:09 GMT
No story. I have never been that interested in covers but my interest has been tweaked with this Commonwealth collection I am selling and again after seeing the collection of Clive's ( Anping). But it's too late now I guess, that time has gone. Londonbus1.
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 20, 2019 6:44:45 GMT
Just a little while ago, Londonbus1 said: Michael, Michael, Michael.... Did we take our grumpy pills this morning or something? Perhaps coupled with some medication designed to result in memory loss? OK, Mr. Master of the Brain Teaser, who said this? So does your new stance on covers, i.e. no story, no interest, it's too late baby (great song by Carole King, by the way) mean that you no longer want the Cinderella cover material I have been gathering for you, Michael? For our hopeful meet-up in October in the UK? That would be a shame if that was your decision.....
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Cinderellas and some Ephemera from Great Britain, France and Israel plus a few beautiful bits from elsewhere !! Topical interests include Flags & Judaica, the latter with an emphasis on the Jewish National Fund.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 20, 2019 9:05:24 GMT
I wasn't referring to covers with labels affixed but to the subject in general. I was never interested in covers for most of my collecting life, only in stamps and sheets. I couldn't get into it at all. Then some very nice covers I found in the CW collection I agreed to sell for a friend got me thinking. Then when I saw Clive's collection I just wondered what I had been missing. But Cinderellas aside, I don't think I am going to start collecting Postal History now, it's just a bit late. But I can still look !!
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Londonbus1
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Cinderella Stamp Club Member 3059
Posts: 4,876
What I collect: Cinderellas and some Ephemera from Great Britain, France and Israel plus a few beautiful bits from elsewhere !! Topical interests include Flags & Judaica, the latter with an emphasis on the Jewish National Fund.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 20, 2019 9:07:21 GMT
Mr. Beryllium Guy , you can send me as many label-infested covers or cards as you want, they are all going in a special folder entitled 'It started in Aix'.
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