philatelia
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What I collect: Ireland, Japan, Scandy, USA, Venezuela, Vatican, Bermuda, Austria
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Post by philatelia on Jan 29, 2023 21:42:17 GMT
Most of us start out with either stamps from our home nation or jump right into worldwide with a beginner stamp album. Eventually, many of us cut back, but there are those hearty souls who stay the course and continue collecting worldwide.
But there are many other avenues to explore such as Post cards, covers, multiples, flyspecking, Cinderellas, Cancels and others.
Which roads have you taken on your philatelic journey and what are your current interests?
I jumped right into worldwide at 8 years of age thanks to a shoebox full of mostly European given to me by my father. I started pruning back in my 30s - just didn't have time or funds for so many countries. The first area to interest me was Scandinavia and I was lucky enough to find a generous older collector named Reverend Munson who accepted all of my unwanted countries in exchange for his Scandinavia. I first delved into flyspecking after I acquired the Robert Gray Ireland collection along with all of his notes. I've drifted away from mint and now find canceled more to my taste. Recently I've further narrowed the scope of my collection and when most items on the wishlists get very tough I try to find beautiful classic covers with key issues and used postcards of the country. Oh boy - I am now really enamored with pre-1920 covers! I haven't gotten the Cinderella bug except for Scandinavian seals, but I can see where they would be tempting. I just purchased a few Barefoot catalogs and may branch off a bit more into Austrian and Scandinavian revenues. I now collect only about 20 countries.
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daveg28
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What I collect: U.S., Canada, Great Britain & Commonwealth, France (esp. 1950-80), DDR, USSR
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Post by daveg28 on Jan 29, 2023 22:12:23 GMT
I started out collecting worldwide when I was 11. I had a Harris Ambassador album. Soon after, I obtained a soft covered bound US album, but within a few years I moved up to a Harris Liberty US album. By my 30’s, I stuck to mainly US stamps, but didn’t say no to anything worldwide that came my way. At some point in there I switched to a set of Mystic Heirloom albums. I still use them. 6 binders now, 7th coming soon.
By the time I was in my 40’s, I started a Harris Canada album. I’ve since switch to Steiner pages. I’ve reined in the WW collection. In the last ten years, I’ve stuck with GB, France (mainly engraved stamps from the ‘30’s to the 80’s), and more recently, USSR and DDR.
Now, I’ve just turned 60, and I’m thinking I need to unload the WW material I still have. No interest in it any more. I’m sitting on a couple of index card boxes full of pre-1950 WW stamps in glassines, as well as three old Scott big blue albums given to me. I’ll probably finish removing the stamps from them and, I don’t know, use them for door stops?
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Jan 29, 2023 23:28:14 GMT
I have told my story several times over since I joined this site back in the spring of 2021. I started collecting world wide as a kid probably around 10 years old. My father was a collector and got most of us interested but I was the only one that seed seemed to take long term. In my early teens I was spending my paper route and odd jobs money on stamps. From my late teens till late 30's my interest was minimal but never parted with my 2 large world wide albums that went up to 1965. I have kept my world wide to the same 1965 cut off.
At some point early on I had enough Canada that I was given a Minkus Canada album (that now goes up to 1990). I think I may have bought my Harris USA album myself around 1980 because that is how far it goes. I am not really searching for additions to the USA but maybe one day I will. I have some pretty good classics and rate my collection as important. Through the 1990's my father started gifting me his collections that I merged into mine. The one other area I have become focused on was his Scott British America album that goes up to 1965. He also had a Scott British Europe and Oceana that runs to 1965. I have done very little with that. My United Kingdom, Australia along with the states and New Zealand outgrew my World Wide albums so I created old school quad ruled pages in spring back albums for them. I do not go out of the way to add to them but they are substantial collections.
I have yet to sell off any of my collections and doubt I will till the time comes that I cannot enjoy them anymore. The pandemic cut my travel way back leaving me with surplus funds so the last 2 years I have been acquiring many stamps I thought I would never own. I may take a time out from that as I have been a bit out of control and I have started booking travel.
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eggdog
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Post by eggdog on Jan 30, 2023 3:57:59 GMT
To start at the beginning, I was very young when I was born... My father had a government job that sent us to Europe for a few years, and I don't know whether my parents introduced me to stamps or if I just noticed all the stamps coming in from other countries where Yanks resided. I was enthusiastic through middle school (what they used to call junior high), but during high school my mind wandered onto other topics. (If you have to ask what those topics were, please don't.)
I picked it up again after college for a while, when I had some bad breaks (at least a couple were self-inflicted) and had to return to my parents' residence. I got very involved in philately again, but I didn't like the local dealer (he was pretty racist, for one thing) and I didn't like other stamp collectors - the type of people I saw at stamp shows weren't the type I wanted to be around (note 1). So I drifted away from it and stayed away for almost thirty years. Also, starting in the 1970s the stamp market got filled with speculation and get-rich-quick schemes, and I didn't need to be a part of that.
I sold my collection somewhere along the line; the depression I've struggled with for much of my life was getting worse, and I gave up ties with a lot of my past. (I never lost my sense of humor; quite a few stand-up comedians have clinical depression. And I've always reveled in the Elysian fields of words. So I sound more chipper on, say, this forum than I really am. Yeah, I'm fronting a bit, but churning out streams of hooey and obscure jokes is an aspect of my being too, so I'm not being a total fraud, just a windbag.) I occasionally missed the collection (I only sold the foreign material; the dealer told me that my United States collection was better than he could offer for it so I should keep it) but of all things, I most missed a mixture of Ghanaian stamps because they had cool postmarks. The world collection itself was hopelessly haphazard.
My wife had a series of surgeries in the 2000s, and I was pretty much homebound for a while; fortunately, I was in the avant-garde of remote working when all this happened. Far less fortunately, she has never really recovered, and I have been a stay-at-home ever since. In 2008, I think it was, I went to the APS stamp show when it was in Hartford, got interested in a lot of the stuff there, and wondered if it would be fun again. I got a couple of Central America starter collections and liked that. Then I picked up a Bulgaria album that was printed on newsprint paper and had been abandoned sometime in the 1950s, and I loved it. Don't ask me why; I didn't know a thing about Bulgaria (that was probably part of the charm) and I was suspicious of people who write "P" when they mean "R". I had to strip the album before the paper totally rotted away, but I still have it.
For a while I was pretty heavily into varieties and other technical attributes of stamps; in the last few years, I've leaned more towards the cultural side: who are these guys on stamps, and why are they on stamps? I still look for perforation varieties, but watermarks are oftentimes a pain in the neck and I never really got involved in phosphorescence. And color varieties make me crazy because no two people on earth perceive color in the exact same way. You know that old saw about "explaining color to a blind person"? They're right. You can't, or even if you can it won't work anyway.
Anyway, making elaborate album pages and looking up all these people who show up on, for instance, Bulgarian stamps allows me to combine philately with one of my other passions: accumulating vast stocks of mildly interesting and marginally useful knowledge.(note 2) So that's where I'm at, and I expect I'll stay there for a while, enjoying it and trying not to take it all too seriously.
(note 1) I've still had that problem when I've tried to go stamp clubs here. I was at one meeting just after there was an airplane crash and this one guy started cracking barbecue jokes. I'm not an aggressive person by any definition - I tend strongly toward conflict avoidance - but I was smoldering. I felt like I could either punch his face in or get out of there, so I got out of there. I'm going to start trying again once this latest wave of the Plague recedes.
(note 2) The novelist, social critic, and nasty drunk Norman Mailer coined the term "factoids" to describe factual nuggets that sound good but have very little informational content, and sometimes are designed to deceive. They're like tapes of a speaker that are edited down so that you hear the speaker say something but the part where s/he says "some other people think that..." gets cut. I use the term "factlets" for the information that I spew out; they may lack nutritional content but they may be interesting and their mission is benign.
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 30, 2023 14:21:24 GMT
Interesting thought Terri philatelia . I never really paused to look closely at my Collecting “ road map” until a couple of hours ago reading this thread. On reflection the path I drifted along over 70 years has of course gone off on side tracks , dead ends and even the occasional “U” turn. I just sketched it out on paper as a time line with branches. Once a dedicated stamp collector, I hardly buy individual stamps these days, only seeking infrequent examples of my early classics having been converted to social and postal history some 10-15 years ago. 1947 1st albumWorld wide_____1955 concentrating on GB USA Virgin Islands——- 1960-1969 Marriage, work, overseas, collection stored then sold. 1974 started again GB Victoria —- 1976 -2010 serious specialist collection of Denmark 1851-64., exhibited internationally ( 2000, 2010)With sideline collections of Faroes, Volcanoes started then disposed of) 1990 to date. After return visit to Samoa .serious specialist collection , stamps and postal history . Exhibited Nationally 1990 to 2018 a Dictionary of Philately illustrated , 1000s of odd and unusual items to illustrate all the terms used in collecting 2005 collection of a late friend started a topical social theme on Tobacco and Anti-smoking. (Again exhibited internationally 2010, 2915) 2015 Denmark sold , started a Postal history collection “How Wars impact on the mail “. 1800- 1950 which is still current 2018 to date “Tobacco” dormant not much added, Samoa only looking for 1877 issues, Wartime postal history Active , and started accumulating Europe classic No1s and the triangles of Cape of Good Hope (2020) so where am I now ? At least 10 collections started and abandoned , sold or dispersed, Two large collections which are current but very hard to add to , leaving one Classic stamp collection and one huge topical,postal history collection actively pursued.
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guyana1230
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What I collect: GUYANA, Surinam, British Commonwealth, Aland, Denmark Finland, Iceland, Japan, Norway, Sweden, USA, Scout Posts, Cinderellas
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Post by guyana1230 on Jan 30, 2023 21:01:10 GMT
The direction for my collection has changed a lot over the years with only one constant and that is Guyana/British Guiana (11 albums now). I have stopped GB at 2020, most European countries stop when they adopted the Euro (no reason other than a good place to stop). Still keep most of the Commonwealth countries. Now collect revenues, railway newspaper/post/parcel and cinderella stamps.
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JeffS
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What I collect: Oranges Philately, US Slogan Cancels, Cape of Good Hope Triangulars, and Texas poster stamps and cinderellas
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Post by JeffS on Jan 30, 2023 22:30:28 GMT
I posted this recently as an introduction at another forum. Might as well recycle and not let those pixels go to waste.
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I can remember my first stamp approvals nearly 70 years ago, the first time I saw a US 3c green banknote stamp, trying to talk my mother out of another dime so I could buy 10 additional penny approval stamps.
Since then I have gone from hinging stamps in a Harris worldwide album, moving to a Scott National, cutting black strip mounts with a razor blade, watermarking stamps with carbon tetrachloride, my first trip to a stamp shop, joining a specialist BNA society, learning how to exhibit, making it to a Capex in Toronto and exhibiting there, becoming an accredited APS judge, meeting lots of interesting collectors far more advanced than I, moving my interests to postal history with several national exhibits and a couple golds, becoming a part-time "stamp" dealer, taking tables at shows not too far distant, discovering the thrills and pitfalls of eBay, and reluctantly tendering my APS judging accreditation as I could see and feel my age showing its effects.
Currently I have several US postal history interests, also a love-affair with my "Oranges and Other Citrus Fruit" collections, along with a new-found interest in Cape triangles, a dabble in Texas cinderellas, and still keeping my dealer interests alive on eBay.
I've met online so many wonderful collectors whom several are participants here.
As you travel the many paths that philately offers I hope that you have as much fun as I have had.
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swvl
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What I collect: FDCs, plus some US modern and new issues. Topical interests include music, art, literature, baseball, space...
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Post by swvl on Jan 30, 2023 23:17:31 GMT
Just want to say that I've really enjoyed reading everyone's stories here. As some of you might know from my other posts, I was an eager FDC and stamp collector in my pre-teens, thanks to my grandfather's encouragement. I saved stamps from incoming mail, went to some local stamp shows, even sent off a couple of covers of my own for first-day cancels. Mostly, I read lots and lots about stamps, in library books and on the then-new online forums that existed in the early 1990s. Eventually I drifted away from the hobby, but never quite forgot it. Much later, when I had kids myself, I thought about making an FDC or two for them as a keepsake; one of them, for the 2017 Snowy Day stamps, is framed on their wall. I found myself making occasional covers for new issues that interested me over the next few years, and when the pandemic hit in 2020, I got more seriously into this old interest of mine (and the whole hobby by extension) as a way of connecting with others in those long isolated months. I haven't looked back since, and it's brought me a lot of joy!
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bafletcher
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps and Covers (focus: British Africa, Caribbean, British Commonwealth, Croatia, Greece, Pakistan, Nepal)
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Post by bafletcher on Jan 31, 2023 0:47:35 GMT
This is a fascinating thread. I always enjoy hearing how others have come to philately and what that looks like now. Thanks to everyone for sharing your stories! I'm in my late fifties and began a collection when I was about ten years old, in 1975 or 1976. I remember the years because there was a deluge of American bicentennial issues (both US and worldwide) and that captured my attention at the time. Other than stamps relatives saved from their incoming mail, my first mail order approvals were from H. E. Harris. It was exciting to await the newest arrivals every month or so, even though I had very little disposable income to spend.
Our family was fortunate to have a neighbor my parents' age who had been a lifelong stamp collector. He showed me his plate blocks, duck stamps and Zeps (even though at the time I had no idea their value). His grandfather was a well-known philatelist (although I forget his name now) and passed to him the love for collecting. It was this neighbor who brought by his Linn's Stamp News for me to read after he was done with them, and I was entranced by the many advertisers and opportunities. (So many more in the 1970s than there are in the current issues of Linn's). I ordered approvals, focusing at that time on US commemoratives and definitives for my Scott Minuteman Album. (It is my oldest, most ragged album, and I keep it for nostalgic reasons, as most of the stamps in it are of little monetary value).
At that time I was focused on US stamps as I found world wide collecting too overwhelming. Like many, my later high school and college years found me laying aside my tongs, although there were some new issues I purchased and filed way because they garnered my attention. By my late 20s I was ready to collect again, but moved more in the direction of exchanging worldwide covers. This was the era of "new nations" rising in the former Soviet bloc, and of British colonialism giving way to independent states, and I enjoyed receiving contemporary covers from newly arising political entities. It was in my late 20s when I became a member of the APS, wondering how I could justify the annual dues with my meager personal budget. This year I will celebrate 31 years of continuous membership. I eagerly and happily renew each year, now recognizing how important APS has been to my philatelic meanderings.
By the time of marriage and children more than 25 years ago I began collecting countries I had visited or had interest in, so Great Britain, Jamaica, Mexico and Canada received my attention. Now that my wife and I are "technical" empty nesters, I have allowed myself the pleasure of expanding my collecting interests. Some at this stage of life focus on particular areas, but I now embrace the world, especially enjoying British Commonwealth, the Caribbean and African nations. While I've always collected used and spurned mint, in the past three years I have come to find joy in pristine MNH British Commonwealth.
There are no family members interested in my collecting activities, although they know their dad, grandfather and husband is a collector, and they graciously allow me time to "play with my stamps" as they call it. In the year ahead I'd like to engaged in more quality exchanges by getting my numerous acquisitions more orderly (so I know what duplicates I actually have). I anticipate collecting through my remaining working years into retirement. While this is not my only source of "bliss," it certainly does occupy many corners of my life!
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REL1948
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What I collect: 1840-Pre-Decimal, GB and Colonies, 1840 1 penny reds, British Empire Postal History, Switzerland Postal History
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Post by REL1948 on Jan 31, 2023 1:54:45 GMT
I started collecting stamps on Christmas day 1954. My parents gave me one of those boxed beginner kits (Minkus) that included an album, a packet of stamps, an identifier and a set of Flags and Coats of Arms stickers. I was addicted. It only took two days to apply the stickers and mount all the stamps that came with the kit. I immediately knew that I needed more, many more stamps. It was the week after Christmas and I convinced my Mom to take me to J.L. Hudsons in downtown Detroit so we could “visit” the Minkus stamp shop. The first thing I saw when I stepped into their department were tall glass panels with beautifully arranged stamps on black cards. Coincidentally (or not) the first panel was filled with all of the sets and singles from the 1953 QEII Coronation omnibus. I knew then and there that I loved QEII and her beautifully engraved stamps. I spent all of my Christmas money and went home with that set and still have it.
I grew a sizeable commonwealth collection that I kept in stock-books for the most part (could never find albums that matched my collections back then).
I never stopped collecting but I experienced a few lengthy “drift” periods where philately was displaced by my other hobbies, Photography, “High End stereo”, Guitar playing and my other lifelong avocation, collecting and using antique Woodworking tools.
Until the past few years, my philatelic life has almost exclusively been experienced in isolation. No one in my family or circles of friends have ever included another philatelist. This never diminished my interest but it did shape my involvement. Approvals and stamp shops I visited (while on work travel) fed my habit for years. The end of the 90s, internet and eBay completely changed how I found new material. I no longer felt the need to leave the house to grow the collection.
I've deeply collected the United States, Canada, France (and Colonies), Germany (States and Colonies), Great Britain (and Colonies), Austria and Iceland. I've sold most of the collections over the years but currently focus on the Great Britain Line Engraved issues, Postal History and discovering great philatelic books and articles.
I have 2 sons neither of which have a jot of interest in any of my hobbies. Consequently, if I don’t find worthy homes for my collections before I pass, my heirs will end up selling everything at the end of the driveway for ten cents a pound…
Rob
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Post by greaden on Jan 31, 2023 2:54:40 GMT
Stage 1: I was given a thin kid's album when I was 6 along with a few stamps. For the next few birthdays and Christmases I would get some kiloware, and a pile of stamped cards asking for reprints of scientific articles. My father and my mom's father were scientists, and in those pre-internet days, scholars around the world would send in requests for copies of their articles. I wish I did not soak the stamps off: imagine the exhibit on that fragment of postal history!
Stage 2: My father went on sabbatical to Nancy, France. He was a geologist, and in Nancy there was a laboratory that would help him figure out the rocks that had just been brought back from the moon. I was enrolled in a French public school without any clue about French, so flunked just about everything except math, but picked up some history from a French point of view (the US became independent in 1783, when France recognized it, but at least I learned which Louis was which). I found a stamp shop just off Place Stanislas and spent my allowance there. I later learned that its owner had a crush on my mother. I was a just a geeky kid with buck teeth and thick glasses. I built up the start of a French collection, and sought out stamps from every country. I felt very naughty as an 11 year old American in 1973 buying stamps from Cuba, Red China, North Vietnam, and North Korea. If only I had the sense to spend my entire allowance on red China...
Stage 3: I went back to Europe as a hitchhiker/railpasser in 1979. I bought a few more stamps from post offices, and somehow found some packages with vintage colis postes. But I was no longer so engaged with stamping.
When I arrived in Liechtenstein on an Easter Monday, all was closed except souvenir stands. I was hungry but all that was on sale were postage stamps and other inedible products of that tiny country (ok, there were some chocolate bars,which save me!). Starving, I renounced stamp collecting for the next couple of decades. Worse: I did not know German, so did not understand the fine print in the railroad station informing me that while Liechtenstein ran on Swiss time, the trains ran on Austrian time, so I was exactly one hour late to the train that would have taken me to Innsbruck and, more importantly, food.
Stage 4: My step-grandfather died and left his stamp collection. The important part of the US material needed division among branches of the family. I kept the more iconic stamps and the other side got the coils and anything mint. I got his childhood stamps, cheap in 1913 and still cheap, but captured my imagination. Bosnia! Horta! Nyassa!
Stage 5: Around the millenium there was a family crisis when I needed to be around but out of the way. I went through several generations of basic albums and re-assembled a collection. I went on ebay for countries I did not have yet.
Stage 6: I got carried away, and through brute force almost finished the US and France to the millenium aside from the really expensive stuff. Collecting became my way of life. I found stamp clubs where I could learn from the old heads, even though I needed to bite my tongue if conversation veered into politics. I hit stamp shows regularly and got to know some dealers, and began to specialize.
Stage 7 has been mostly played out on the stage of this site.
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jan 31, 2023 8:32:17 GMT
I agree with bafletcher, this is a fascinating thread. Thanks to philatelia for starting it off. It would make up a great article for the Newsletter (hint,hint) ! I have very much enjoyed reading all the stories up to now and hope more will be forthcoming. Londonbus1
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kasvik
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What I collect: Cancels mostly, especially Sweden Gävle and Lidingö, Switzerland Geneva, Germany Pforzheim
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Post by kasvik on Jan 31, 2023 14:57:57 GMT
How did this thread become true confessions? I’m grateful it did. I collected as a Boy Scout: beer cans, insects, badges and stamps. Insects were the most meaningful. And in the Arkansas Ozarks, easiest to find. A generous uncle gave me his impressive collection of American and UN plate blocs from the late 1960s. That drowned my adolescent interest like a wet blanket.
A fresh start came in 2004. A chance visit to the Nordic dealer Jay Smith got me intrigued. He showed me the 1903 Swedish Post Office. I know the building well, big fan of Ferdinand Boberg, its architect, also designer of the stamp. That’s all it took. After a few years buying mint, almost every stamp I bought since was canceled somewhere important in my adult life. For me, it’s all about a sense of place, twists on hometown collecting.
I try not to buy much, although it’s a continuous trial. That effort at parsimony partially reveals my conviction that all our worldly possessions end up garbage someday. Partially my faith in perfection, in the meantime. Platonic, huh? So far, everything fits into four albums. I’m tickled by that. As you might have heard me before, I’m chasing exactly one perfect stamp, just can’t figure which it is.
Or more practically, I'm still hesitating to re-mortgage the house.
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Jan 31, 2023 15:36:48 GMT
Terri (philatelia), Thank you so much for starting this thread. It's really fascinating to read our members stories, each one as unique as a snowflake and yet sporting common experiences many of us can identify with. In some of the stories, I felt a distinct déjà vu as they described their progression. It's truly a community. Collecting is just a starting point, what it can lead to is a better understanding of our world and ourselves. Rob
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renden
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What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
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Post by renden on Jan 31, 2023 15:57:10 GMT
I do share the same feelings as REL1948 and believe it is appropriate and interesting to read the posted members's stories. My face does not appear on Facebook, just my #1 CANADA Beaver (avatar), for personal reasons. I am reluctant to share my "story" even though it matches many already posted but I understand the "security aspect" of our Forum. René
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Post by dgdecker on Jan 31, 2023 19:31:26 GMT
I started out collecting Canada when I was about 10 years old. It was not long before I jumped into worldwide. My grand parents delivered the mail in my area. When ever they saw interesting stamps they would ask for it. As they put mail into boxes they would often retrieve envelopes full of stamps. In my mid teens I inherited an old album published in 1898. From then on I was in to early stamps. Things slowed down in early adulthood. I still bought stamps but they were put in boxes and moved around with me. My grandmother’s friends collected stamps for her right up to her death. An accumulation on on paper Canada that I was able to start out a new collector.
David
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hrdoktorx
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What I collect: France (and French territories), Africa, Canada, USA, Germany, Guatemala, stamps about science, flags, maps, stamps on stamps...
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Post by hrdoktorx on Jan 31, 2023 20:39:45 GMT
I started collecting while in Mauritania at age 7 because I really liked how pretty their stamps were. My mother, who had collected herself, encouraged it and made sure a lot of letters from hers and my father's professional abodes came my way for me to soak. My paternal grand-mother also started sending me the current French issues, which she was also doing for a few of my cousins at the time. As soon as I had any allowance (by which time I was living in Cameroon), I would spend it at a department store near my school that had a stamp corner. When we settled back in Canada, I found a few like-minded philatelists at my school and did trades with them, and then started spending my allowance money on approval lots from a couple of dealers from Montreal, Québec City, and the US. Within a few years, I had a pretty complete Canadian collection and a decent US one. I also started to specialize somewhat by dropping Eastern Europe countries and concentrating more on African countries plus a few others. My maternal grand-father passed away, as which time I was given his old stamp albums (a hinged worldwide collection in Harris albums, to which my mother has added her own, and covering mostly from the 1940s to the 1960s, with very complete France and Canada pages). There were also many almost full panes of Canadian stamps that he had used for his professional practice. And a 1938 worldwide catalog from Yvert & Tellier I still use today. I never stopped collecting during my college years, but money was tight so I mostly just maintained by buying the new USA and Canada issues, for the most part, plus what my relatives were accumulating for me. Continuing to buy from Canadian dealers became increasingly difficult. Once I had my first real paying job in Boston, I bought enough to make my US collection respectably complete. I then moved to Germany and joined a local stamp club in my town, and became more interested in German stamps (but staying shy about the former Eastern part, as per my earlier specialization decision), and found some German dealers with whom I do business still. My German collection is now very extensive, within these parameters. After a few years, I moved to France and started expanding into the French territories, plus Monaco and Andorra. Again, for most of these I have now reached quite a satisfactory completion level. I dabbled for a while in Greenland and the Channel Islands, but found their issues to be of lesser interest to me after a bit. I also started specializing more in some topical issues. More recently, I decided to stop most of my subscriptions and only get post-2020 issues if they meet a thematic interest of mine. I joined TSF, of course, under the tutelage of Beryllium Guy , and that has been my main source of non-dealer material through trades and giveaways. I would not quite say that I have reached my philatelic goals (many African countries still have large gaps), but I'm close enough to feel quite happy about how far I've gotten.
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Post by nbstamper on Feb 24, 2023 19:40:53 GMT
Like most others, I started collecting world wide at a very young age - 8 or 9 - encouraged by the mother of one of my friends on our street whose husband worked at the post office. When I was about 11 or 12, she introduced me to the only stamp dealer in our city. He was also a postal employee but operated a British Commonwealth new issue service from his home. He had a fabulous specialized Australian collection and he got me started on the stamps of New Zealand. I remember being fascinated by the NZ KGVI and early QEII issues and still am. He gave me a PIMS NZ specialized catalogue, forerunner of todays Campbell-Paterson which is a must have for any serious NZ collector. He also encouraged me to abandon the illustrated albums and do my own arrangements in Stanley Gibbons quadrilled-page spring-back binders. Our family was not very well-to-do, so I was fortunate to get a part-time job at age 13 at a local news-stand; but between the job and school, collecting suffered. Interest revived after university and I ventured into Canadian stamps. My wife and I lived in Montreal briefly where I befriended Sergio Sismondo, still a well-known stamp dealer and expertizer. He then owned a stamp shop in the lobby of the old Laurentian Hotel in Montreal, long since demolished.
Kids came along and I sold everything except my New Zealand collection and put stamps aside. But in 2001, wandering around one afternoon in Toronto, I walked into a stamp store on lower Yonge Street, bought the NZ Smiling Boys and a few mint Canadian stamps and I was hooked again. My collection now sits in about 75 albums. I have stuck with a few countries, mainly New Zealand, Canada, Great Britain, France and Austria - some British Commonwealth and some odds and ends. Really focused on Great Britain right now; building a rather large Machin collection and picking up a few Victorian issues here and there. The NZ Full Face Queens are also a favourite series; but expensive. I add one every once in a while. Envy DK, his collection and knowledge of this beautiful issue.
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angore
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Post by angore on Feb 25, 2023 11:33:23 GMT
Stage 1: US but was getting expensive for earlier material Stage 2: Was traveling to far east on business, so started Malayasia/Singapore stage 3: Expanded to British Commonwealth Stage 4: Expanded to French Indochina Stage 5: Interested in collecting a stamp from every country (interest in numbers 1, etc) after I saw a ASFEC album by John (source code on AlbumEasy website) but purchased the hardcopy off amazon.
Each phase started by buying collection lots of ebay.
Focus range is usually 1900 to 1980.
I would rather than a collection of lots of common stamps than a collection of fewer expensive stamps.
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Cephus
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What I collect: U.S. 1847-1993, Australia, China, New Zealand
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Post by Cephus on Feb 25, 2023 23:21:20 GMT
Started as a kid with a U.S. collection of used, changed course as an adult to all mint, got pretty complete from early 1900s to 1993 where I decided to stop, then I stopped adding much to it. Got bored. Looked at other countries and chose, pretty arbitrarily, China and Australia because I liked their stamps. Collected those. Have expanded in those areas to include most places in and around Australia (New Zealand, Newfolk Island, Christmas Island, Antarctica). Now, when I go to a show and I've exhausted all of the stamps for a particular dealer, but my wife is still going strong, I have other places I can jump to and keep going.
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Post by jimwentzell on Feb 26, 2023 0:29:33 GMT
Whoa....ask and ye shall receive!
I started collecting at the age of ten, 53 years ago. My grandfather (and three uncles) in Germany got me started, I had often watched my "Opa" hunched over peering with his poor eyesight to view his little bits of paper. Turns out my grandfather started collecting when HE was ten, in 1912, and had built up quite a nice collection but lost it when he was forced to move from Poland (his wife's--my grandmother's birthplace) back to Germany. Seems the madman in power, A. Hitler, was planning his wartime invasion in 1939. Opa had quite an extensive collection--he always said he had a "Blue Mauritius" but since evacuating was considered temporary he left the bulk of his chest of stamps in rural Poland. He told me he brought a few rare stamps including, Opa claimed, a copy of the famous Blue Mauritius to Berlin, where he began his career as editor of a German stamp publication. Somehow I never caught the stamp publisher's name....Opa's name was Wilhelm Denner (1902-1988) and I always check 1930's-1950's German stamp publications for evidence of his name. Opa was more the editor type--although I know he did write some stamp related articles, ending around 1961 when he fled communist East Germany.
Sadly, Opa fled without a single stamp from his collection. Literally just the shirt on his back. I assume he wore trousers as well, to avoid suspicion. The more valuable stamps, such as his Blue Mauritius, he carefully sold or traded early on, to avoid suspicion from the East German secret police.
Anyway, years later his sons-in-law (my uncles) had amassed full sheets "Post Office Fresh!" Bundesrepublik issues of the 1960's and 1970's. Those sheets (they had hundreds!) are even less value than 1950's-1980's US commemoratives. The Deutsche Mark denominated stamps were bought with hard-earned money, my uncles thinking they would retire in philatelic riches. As most modern day collectors now realize, their holdings bring back a TINY FRACTION of their face value. The pre-Euro German stamps have all been demonetized, and remain totally invalid for any postage! Wisely, my Opa had always told me, a stamp is not really a stamp, until it has been USED for its intended purpose.
I received by mail all the "Post Office Fresh!" issues of Germany and West Berlin from my uncles/grandfather when we moved to the States in 1972--by then I considered myself an intermediate collector, as I had expanded my worldwide "collection" to include a total of three (!) 16-page Lighthouse type albums. Every New Years, until about 1985, I would count all my face different worldwide stamps. In 1970 I had reached 1,000 different worldwide stamps; by 1979 I had amassed 10,000 and I gave up counting when I reached about twelve albums (probably around 12,000-15,000 face different).
By the time I could mow lawns and babysit I spent every last nickel (or D-Mark) I had on stamps. My mailbox was filling with approvals mainly, from US dealers named Viking Stamps, Earnest Schlesinger (giant manila envelopes of worldwide stamps for 2 to 5 cents each, what fun!) B. Schulz from Canada, and Harris & Jamestown Stamp Companies--those two even then I could tell were pushing "Sand Dunes" and I quickly discontinued receiving their "exciting offers".
In 1974, and again in the 1980's I flew back as a teenager/young collector and road the rails throughout Western Europe when I wasn't trading stamps with uncles or grandfather. Stamp stores in exotic European towns were always a thrill to find. They were all to happy to relieve me of my hard-earned money, often for new issues and even the popular First Day Covers. (Cringe!) Flea markets and antique shops as well, where I always found exciting worldwide stuff to fill my expanding collection. Also in the mid 1970's I had "Standing Orders" from several philatelic agencies. I could send US$20 and get about a year or two's worth of new issues. United Nations, Liechtenstein, Israel, all the popular stamp issuing entities.
My collecting interests by then outgrew the new issue and even the expensive stamps--even the pricey USA "Zeps" didn't interest me, as everyone seemed to have them, or wanted to sell me theirs, at a stiff price! My focus turned to covers, no more FDC's please!!!! Postal History, German Inflation, POW, Censored mail, Registered and early Advertising and Mourning Covers, early Poster Stamps (Cinderellas) on cover; and anything with a lot of auxiliary markings up to around 1950 got me (and still get me) really excited.
Living in Florida, around 1975 I became the youngest member of the Hollywood Stamp Club, where I was member #1255 and remained a member until about 2005 after I moved out of state. Around that time I met many retired NY area stamp dealers; Violet Montalto (her Nassau Street cover dealer husband died in the 1960's), Bill Macy (I think was his name), Carl Lipton, a US Duck Hunting stamp dealer, and the illustrious, by then wheel-chair bound Pat (Herman) Herst, among many others. Pat and I had similar, eclectic tastes, but he was NOT HAPPY when I dared to outbid him. "You young no good whippersnapper!" was one of the less derogatory names he sometimes used. I was never sure he wasn't teasing or even trying to intimidate me. Mostly when we were both bidding on the same cheap junk box at the weekly club stamp auctions!
It was only years later I read, and became a fan, of Pat Herst's prolific stamp writings--he eventually became friendlier to me, especially when I let him rummage through an odd auction lot I'd win for a few bucks. Always good deals to be had at the well-attended club meetings! I would call the "HSN" Hollywood Stamp Club "Nassau Street South", as Florida was well known for retiring New York dealers. Pat had a great influence on my collecting interests; we were both eclectic, Cinderella collectors with an eye toward the unusual. Pat passed away in 1999 ate age 89, still avidly collecting, I heard. A Shout Out, and thanks again, to berylliumguy (Chris) who gifted me one of Pat Herst's books!
To this day I keep in contact with some HSN members; I also know a couple of retired dealers who sometimes still attend HSN meetings (held EVERY Tuesday, rain or shine even when Tuesday fell on a holiday). Michael Rogers being one I know, and bought from, through HSN, indirectly, many years later.
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Oh my, I guess I will have to conclude with my collecting history up to about 1995. More to come, post 1995, when I get a chance, if you readers haven't slept through this lengthy post....
--Jim
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Apr 10, 2023 2:07:06 GMT
My story is much the same as most of the previous stories posted.Mom was a US collector from age of 8 so as we grew she bought us all starter albums.Mine was a Cornet funny how i actually remember that.Us three kids would exchange our duplicate but as you can imagine that only lasted so long. I used to help Mom cataloging her Washingtons and Franklins which was the deciding factor for me to collect something else.I expressed an interest in Canada so she found me a Minkus Canada album.Our primary source of stamps was our insurance man who came monthly to collect the premium. He provided me a set of the war issue and to this day I remember hoping that 5cent was in there as i had mounted the rest of the set Fast forward I used my paper route money to take a bus downtown to the only stamp dealer around. He was as I remember of eastern European extraction and after I had purchased all his meager stock offered I was for awhile at a stand still. Then Mom informed me she had found a new dealer who had opened a shop locally. This turned into a bit of a godsend as he was truly a small time dealer eking out a living selling stamps.As such he was amazingly well informed of most countries stamp issues and kept me posted what I had been missing. Then i found listing of stamp auctions in a magazine and the Frog collection began to take shape.to this day i remember my first win at auction I had posted bids of 40% of catalog for some first cent issues and won them all. I had to do some quick scrambling to find $517. As most by this time collecting was in spurts. Life's other doings presented themselves but my now expanded albums remained on the shelves. My music career and involvement ate most of my time. My home was broken into the night I married my lovely wife and it was then I remembered my stamps. They were safe but some of my music equipment was four sheets to the wind.It was then and there that I realized my stamps were probably worth many times more than my precious instruments I had lost. And my renewed interest was sparked. Not long after we had purchased our first computer and a whole world of stamps opened to my eyes. As my collection reached the saturation point and those MIA's were beyond the budget I expanded into Cinderellas and improved my providence holdings. Today I am actively working on my revenues and those pesky 5 hole perfs both of which are not only expensive but hard to find. I spend a lot of time looking through listings and offerings searching for the hidden gems. Surprisingly they still crop up now and then stressing the importance of knowing your material. I'm still working 6 months out of the year probably much harder than I should at my age but I still enjoy my job so I can't see the end yet. My Boston girls are almost there. One has landed her dream job as critical care nurse in neo-natal unit and the second is graduating in May with her second masters and working on her doctorate. I hope one day to post some more of the Frog collection, if only life would give me a 30 hour day and a cat that slept past 4 a.m.
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on Apr 10, 2023 9:13:48 GMT
Hi I started collecting at about 10 years old. When we went to visit relatives in New York my aunt took me to Minkus in Gimbels. She bought me a Minkus album and a Israel 9 stamp. My aunt was in the millinary business and got mail from all over the world. She used to bring a bag of stamps whenever she came to visit. Thus started a WW collection. I used the Minkus WW and a Scott US. In school I joined the stamp club. Eventually we moved to Maine. There was a stamp dealer in town that taught kids all about stamp collecting. He also was the school stamp club advisor. On Saturdays, those collecting stamps, had a "study group" at his home. He also had little packedts of WW stamps for each one. We bought stamps at huge discounts. He also advised us to use blank quadrille pages and not use printed albums. To this day my entire collection is on quadrille pages in binders. I had current US, Israel and French collections. After high school I joined the USAF. The military sent me to French Morocco. In the city, Rabat, I found a stamp dealer and we formed a bond. I would supply US stamps, which I purchased at the base post office, and received Israel and French stamps in return. Years later, after the military and while going to college, I worked in an office next door to Friedl expert comittee run by Alex Rendon and Herb Bloch. I went in one day to ask Alex about a stamp. Herb said "why collect that junk?". I asked what I should collect. Alex, an expert on Colombia, said Colombia and gave me some stamps to take home and look at. I took them home and showed my wife, who is Colombian. She then said that's my house in Tunja, that's an aunt, etc.. Thus started a Colombia collection. I sold my French collection to fund the Colombian collection beginning. Eventually I added Ecuador (where my sister-in-law lived) and Venezuela. The stamp that started my Colombia collection. My wife's house in Tunja, Boyaca, Colombia (Scott C247). Jerry B
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brookbam
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What I collect: US...everything until I decide what I don't want to collect! And now thanks to a TSF give-away I'm adding Space topicals!
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Post by brookbam on Apr 11, 2023 1:48:07 GMT
I absolutely love these stories! I think I started when I was around 11 or 12. I think my first album I actually glued the stamps in. Then I met a friend in fifth grade...Keith...who set me on the path of redemption and introduced me to "stamp hinges." At the time we both collected WW. He eventually moved to Rapid City on the other side of the state just to see the infamous Rapid City flood of 1972 hit. (Google it). I had joined a stamp club and me and Keith were pen-pals and were exchanging stamps back and forth about every two weeks or so. Eventually I cut out of the WW. I think I gave all my WW stuff to my sister and I just focused on US. I then moved into Jr High and my US interest moved into mint and plate blocks and Showgard mounts. I was a fussy kid back then. I even traded off all my hinged stuff to Keith for unhinged that he had just to have the unhinged. These were the used stamps. I don't remember Keith collecting any mint. I bought a lot of approvals from Harris. I think Jamestown and Mystic might have been in there. Gobs of smaller dealers. I always paid. I was an honest kid. There was a dealer in Sioux Falls 75 miles east down I-90 and mom and dad would go over almost every Sunday for lunch. I'd send my "want list" and they'd stop by his house and get what they could. One time I must have dropped down a row or something because the stamp I wanted wasn't like the 50 cents what I had written but ended up being $15 or some more expensive number like that. My parents bought it anyway. They were amazing. I remember the first time I saw a complete set of mint Graf Zep stamps at the stamp club. They were in Showgard mounts. I was 15. I got to touch them. I dang near cried. My holy grail as a kid was Scott's #1 and #2 US. I could never afford them as a kid first on a $7/week allowance then working for $2/hour and paying full cat value. They were forever out of my reach. Anyway...eventually...Sr High came. Other interests came. Spent my Sr high years on probation and the court system pretty much raised me...it was a hilarious time...the stamps fell by the wayside. Met a wonderful girl while still in High School who eventually became my wife but first she got to meet my probation officer. Got married. Sold the collection on ebay for pretty much face of mint ($500ish...remember...that was built on $7 a week allowance....and then a $2 an hour job plus fun money....wasn't a lot to go around for stamps...plus Showgard mounts...and plate blocks...and I had a huge used collection...all in Showgards). Told my wife I could buy it all back when I retired because I had nothing super rare in there. Well...I've bought it all back and then some. The collection I have floating around the house right now that I have nowhere near cataloged nor mounted is probably 100 times the size of that Jr High collection. It's all US. Singles. Mint and used. Coils. Blocks of 4. Plate blocks. Full sheets (I'm not sure why I bought those...I really dislike storing full sheets...but they were full sheets of Postage Dues...and...I couldn't resist!!) First day covers to the tune of 31,000+...probably closer to 33,000. I have the first 1000 cataloged. That I have made progress on! I never dabbled in FDC in jr high. Took up too much room.
And I can't forget...I won a space topical set here that is going to start a new realm of collecting! I've been watching for some more space related stamps on ebay to expand on the collection. Been also thinking about how I want to display it....
And that holy grail of a Scott #1 or #2 US? A used #1 came in last week in one of my buys. It's still in the box. I've been waiting over 50 years for this and I can't bring myself to open it now... brookbam
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Post by carabop on Apr 11, 2023 3:23:48 GMT
My grandmother collected stamps and when all her girl grandchildren were between 12-14 she bought us all a traveler world album and packet of stamps. My sister and I sat for hours taping our stamps to our albums. This is what we did because this is how grandmother did it and how she showed us. We both still have these albums but do not use them, good thing there was no valuable stamps we taped down. At this same time one of my cousins who was a bit older received Mint stamps from grandmother instead of the used packets the rest of us received. I was so mad she got the beautiful stamps and I got ugly used stamps. I still do not like used stamp but appreciate used stamps and the job they have done. There truly are some awesome cancels out there some I even keep. I thought I would like collecting WW stamps and continued to collect WW used for a while but found I really did not like that big of a collection so I started collecting USA - Mint of course. I was about 17 and found I could not afford very many mint stamps but I surely was not going to have those ugly used stamps so my collection grew very very slowly. Fast forward a few years marriage and 2 children not much time or money for stamps. At about 38-40ish I started collecting a bit more again and added Princess Diana, Triangles, Disney and JFK to my interests along with my MNH USA collection. In the last year I have added postcards and Maxi cards to my collection. One of the greatest things I added was that my sister finally opened up her WW album grandmother gave her and she started collecting again. The WW we do together and have bought new albums to put the WW collection in. It is used and mint. We catalog the stamps together and she puts in the used stamps and I put in the mint stamps. I am getting to where used stamps may just one day be as beautiful as mint but it gives us a good laugh when we do stamps together. I love the time together and was so happy when she got back into stamps. The sad part is Princess Diana, triangles, Disney and JFK stamps do not get the attention they deserve.
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alexcandy
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What I collect: Postboxes, French & UK Stamps
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Post by alexcandy on Apr 11, 2023 6:42:28 GMT
No idea what I was doing and in someways still don't. Stamp collecting has been kind of a development of my postbox collection. I collect UK stamps because I live most of the time in the UK. I stared buying bags of used stamps from ebay. I now try and buy each of the new issues as they go on sale. Similar with France, I actually prefer French stamps as the subjects are maybe more interesting. I have a small collection of USPS stamps that was a result of buying a USPS mailbox. Then a few Irish stamps. Recently I bought a Spanish Postbox and have without really trying found myself buying Spanish stamps. For some reason modern Spanish stamps seem more difficult to find than French and GB stamps.
Alex
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brookbam
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What I collect: US...everything until I decide what I don't want to collect! And now thanks to a TSF give-away I'm adding Space topicals!
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Post by brookbam on Apr 11, 2023 13:48:40 GMT
My grandmother collected stamps and when all her girl grandchildren were between 12-14 she bought us all a traveler world album and packet of stamps. My sister and I sat for hours taping our stamps to our albums. This is what we did because this is how grandmother did it and how she showed us. We both still have these albums but do not use them, good thing there was no valuable stamps we taped down. At this same time one of my cousins who was a bit older received Mint stamps from grandmother instead of the used packets the rest of us received. I was so mad she got the beautiful stamps and I got ugly used stamps. I still do not like used stamp but appreciate used stamps and the job they have done. There truly are some awesome cancels out there some I even keep. I thought I would like collecting WW stamps and continued to collect WW used for a while but found I really did not like that big of a collection so I started collecting USA - Mint of course. I was about 17 and found I could not afford very many mint stamps but I surely was not going to have those ugly used stamps so my collection grew very very slowly. Fast forward a few years marriage and 2 children not much time or money for stamps. At about 38-40ish I started collecting a bit more again and added Princess Diana, Triangles, Disney and JFK to my interests along with my MNH USA collection. In the last year I have added postcards and Maxi cards to my collection. One of the greatest things I added was that my sister finally opened up her WW album grandmother gave her and she started collecting again. The WW we do together and have bought new albums to put the WW collection in. It is used and mint. We catalog the stamps together and she puts in the used stamps and I put in the mint stamps. I am getting to where used stamps may just one day be as beautiful as mint but it gives us a good laugh when we do stamps together. I love the time together and was so happy when she got back into stamps. The sad part is Princess Diana, triangles, Disney and JFK stamps do not get the attention they deserve. I loved reading your post. I felt the same way about used too at one time. I really prefer collecting mint US stamps until I read this in the forums here: "A stamp really isn't a stamp until it's been used."
There really is a lot of truth in that and it has gotten me to appreciate my used collection a lot more!
I also read somewhere that the reason that the USPS issues so many commemorative stamps today is because they know a bunch of them will be bought up by collectors and never used. I sometimes wonder if today's modern commemorative could be harder to find used than mint? I have nothing to back that up...it is just my typing my thoughts out loud... brookbam
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eggdog
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Post by eggdog on Apr 13, 2023 0:27:53 GMT
I also read somewhere that the reason that the USPS issues so many commemorative stamps today is because they know a bunch of them will be bought up by collectors and never used. I sometimes wonder if today's modern commemorative could be harder to find used than mint? I have nothing to back that up...it is just my typing my thoughts out loud. As a collector of used stamps, I can say with some degree of certainty that used modern commemoratives are already harder to find than mint ones. - Fewer grandparents save them for their grandchildren - or for their church or Rotary Club - and fewer grandchildren or their parents save them for any reason.
- Many of the first generation of non-soakable United States stamps were lost when people tried to soak them and tossed them out in disgust the next day.
- The press runs for some of the modern stamps have been very small. I don't have a detailed U.S. catalogue, but I think that those "distinguished military people" stamps that came out four to a sheet had runs of under 10 million [note 1], which sounds like a lot, but many commemoratives in the 1960s ran 120 million. The "early Black cinema" stamps also had a relatively small run, and there were others that were similarly evanescent - and many that don't get to even a majority of post offices.
- Press runs aside, there are so many issues these days that some of them get lost in the shuffle. There was a time when new stamps got mentioned in newspapers. (Children, ask mom if you can PM Uncle Eggdog if you would like to know what a newspaper is.)
- I used to get envelopes full of stamps that I could buy for 3¢ each: approvals in a bag, so to speak. All sorts of people offered them in Linn's and other classified ads. Not that many dealers are even interested in selling single modern used stamps these days [note 2], so you have to look for mixtures or kiloware. I like kiloware, but not everybody does.
- For similar financial reasons, the USPS really likes it if you buy a pane of 16 and don't use them, and the concept of kids saving used stamps and 10 years later buying hundreds of sheets of 16 doesn't do anything for this quarter's balance sheet.
[note 1] Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on these numbers. It might have been 20 million. Sometimes I don't remember things correctly; I'm trying to write interesting factlets down when I see them, but usually I can't find my pen, or somebody stole my steno pad, or where did I put my reading glasses this time? Anyway, I'd much rather be corrected on a factual matter than keep believing the same mistake. [note 2] "Father Attanasio, what did Uncle Eggdog just yell at me?" "The Lord forbids me to tell you, my son, but I think Uncle Eggdog would like it if you didn't run on his lawn."
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