philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 1, 2023 22:11:16 GMT
Well how fun is this … I just found a part imperf booklet in a bargain postage lot. The layout creates 10 imperf pairs! Cool! I can’t find any mention of this booklet imperf in my Scott’s or on EBay or on Google. Does anyone have a U.S. specialized newer than 2020? Thanks!
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 1, 2023 22:24:58 GMT
Here’s a close up of a vertical pair
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Mar 1, 2023 23:02:02 GMT
Interesting, what does the backside look like? If I am correct in what I see the back should have the USPS logo and UPC number on the top and the Nativity verbiage on the bottom, which is opposite of the normal booklet. It appears that the middle is where the top/bottom of the pane should have been cut.
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Post by REL1948 on Mar 1, 2023 23:03:06 GMT
Hello (philatelia) Terry, I found the 2016 booklet listed in the 2023 Scott's US Specialized but it doesn't say anything about an imperf. You may have an unreported rarity on your hands. Nice find. Rob
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 1, 2023 23:07:44 GMT
Looks like everything was one row out of alignment. Here’s the back of the booklet …
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Mar 1, 2023 23:19:32 GMT
I hate to burst your bubble, but could this have been from a press sheet which someone cut?
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Post by TSF Admin on Mar 1, 2023 23:46:29 GMT
Clearly miscut. Send it to Scott and they might list it.
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Post by khj on Mar 1, 2023 23:58:46 GMT
I hate to burst your bubble, but could this have been from a press sheet which someone cut? I would have to agree. If it was a genuine miscut, the stamp edges would be a straight edge as well, just like the liner. Instead, you see the clean unattached diecuts on the edges. Notice above the barcode, the label side has been cut just below the liner, but through the liner you can see the teeth tips of the stamps on the backside sticking out. Label hand cut, stamps on backside removed. A production miscut would have sliced through the teeth. This is how we make "gutter pairs" from press sheets. You sacrifice 2 panes to create gutter pairs, removing the unnecessary stamps before or after cutting to salvage as postage. Scott no longer lists gutter pairs/blocks made from press sheets.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 2, 2023 0:23:12 GMT
Thanks for the comments! Lots of interesting viewpoints.
I considered press sheets, but if this was from an uncut press sheet, wouldn't the label section be out of alignment with the imperfed row?
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Post by khj on Mar 2, 2023 0:41:35 GMT
I considered press sheets, but if this was from an uncut press sheet, wouldn't the label section be out of alignment with the imperfed row? Not really sure what you meant by "out of alignment". Think of it as 2 normal panes still attached vertically, so there are 4 rows of stamp. -- I peel off the stamps from the 1st/4th rows (front & back), leaving only the 2nd/3rd rows intact -- I cut the liner between the 1st/2nd rows (or slightly above), leaving undamaged teeth at top -- I then cut between the 3rd/4th rows (or slightly below), leaving undamaged teeth at bottom -- I then use knife to soft cut, bend, and then trim off the booklet folding area and label, where there are no die cuts (notice they have been trimmed below the tooth line, some people think that looks better) If you look at the label, the bar code adjacent to row 2 that is normally at bottom, is now at top. The "Nativity" text next to row 3 that is normally at top, is now at the bottom. This is what is expected when you create gutter pairs from a press sheet, and this is what I see in the nice pic you provided.
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Post by khj on Mar 2, 2023 1:07:08 GMT
A picture is probably better. The original press sheet for this issue, I believe was 4x2 panes (8 double-sided booklets). I couldn't find a pic on the internet, so I digitally fabricated a small 2x2 section. The white rectangles are the 2 rows removed. The red frame is where the cuts are made in the liner to create the gutter pair. You can see, it matches your pic. The rest (trimming of labels, fold strips...) is done by hand afterwards. Nothing nefarious either. That's just how you make gutter pairs from press sheets.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 2, 2023 1:13:57 GMT
You're RIGHT! I was looking at the label the wrong way! Drat! But still worth more than a regular booklet . That auction lot was a real bargain!
khj I owe you a beer - or a cup o joe!
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Post by khj on Mar 2, 2023 1:17:49 GMT
OK, since philatelia already posted above, I deleted my reply post to the reply post she deleted . Sorry if some may have been wondering what happened to it. Yes, it is still worth more than postage. But too bad it wasn't production error. I may owe you a dinner for popping the bubble...
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