ausbrasilien
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Post by ausbrasilien on Oct 18, 2020 23:17:10 GMT
ausbrasilien , I don't think the member who posted the above page of stamps has been active since 2015 but I appreciate your post regardless as I collect Brazilian stamps myself and might try to obtain a copy of the RHM Catalogue. Thanks for your response. I do not fancy Brazilian stamps very much, my passion are German stamps, however, in case you need any local help with either Portuguese language or Brazilian stamps, just ask.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 9, 2020 12:37:33 GMT
Now I would like confirmation of the status of this early " Bull'sEye" ( though I suspect I actually will not like confirmation !
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 9, 2020 13:07:26 GMT
Hi, Alex ( vikingeck ), and thanks for your post. I hope it turns out to be the genuine article. I just took a look on Morten's ( classicalstamps ) website, and there is some info there on these issues, although it specifically cites the 90 Reis rather than the 60: stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-brazil-spud-paper/I hope this may help a little. Perhaps Morten may have other images that he can post that will help. At least your example doesn't seem to have forged postmark mentioned in the article on the website....
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 9, 2020 14:26:43 GMT
The Rev Earee ‘ s book of the 1880s is a classic early work on forgeries but of course is only a verbal description , it pre dates the internet by 100 years and even lacks photographs .
Still open to resigned disappointment or hoping for joyful recognition,
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khj
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Post by khj on Nov 9, 2020 15:16:28 GMT
Now I would like confirmation of the status of this early " Bull'sEye" ( though I suspect I actually will not like confirmation ! Appears to be genuine intermediate impression on grayish paper to me, but you would have to confirm the paper color directly, whether white, grayish, or yellowish. The thin paper variety, just flip the stamp over face down and see if you can see the stamp design clearly from the back. [EDIT: please see classicalstamps post on Mercier forgery below]
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 9, 2020 17:32:18 GMT
OK, Alex ( vikingeck ), from Morten's ( classicalstamps ) website again, here is another source of information, also an older one, but perhaps a bit more descriptive than the previous one: stampforgeries.com/album-weeds-brazil/Alex, as you are the one with stamp in your possession, and it seems that important differences are in the paper and the printing, those will be difficult to tell from a scan. Can you check your copy and comment about the colour/quality of the paper, as well as whether the printing seems engraved rather than lithographed? From the scan, the image appears to have the detail of an engraved stamp, at least to my eye. But you may want to read the descriptions of the seven types of forgeries from the website, and compare to your example.
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Post by classicalstamps on Nov 9, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
I don't normally comment on authenticity, but in this case I'll make an exception. I believe your stamp is a forgery made by Mercier of Switzerland in 1910. This is a genuine stamp: Notice the detail, esp. the oval lines in the background in between the numbers. This is a Mercier forgery: No oval lines in between the numbers. This is your stamp: It has many of the same characteristics as the Mercier above (and lack many of the finer details of the genuine)
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khj
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Post by khj on Nov 9, 2020 22:08:05 GMT
Ah, now I know what they were talking about regarding the dark oval lines within. They are very clear in that very sharp picture of the genuine stamp you provided. Thanks classicalstamps ! I wonder how often Mercier forgeries are mistaken for intermediate or worn impressions? I admit, that was my view when the stamp in question didn't fit the descriptions of the common forgeries.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 10, 2020 9:49:10 GMT
The wonders of the internet age, the written descriptions by Revd Earee and others in the 19th century were excellent for their time but needed physical examination of the suspect alongside a genuine stamp, hence the need for expert opinion when a genuine example was not easy to come by. Now with excellent images such as those shown above by Morten , classicalstamps , thanks I have my answer. It is a forgery , but the perpetrator has been identified for us as Mercier. It is what I expected I must confess, so not a huge disappointment , though I might have to cancel the crate of champagne I was about to order.
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Post by daniel on Nov 25, 2020 5:18:48 GMT
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Post by daniel on Dec 23, 2020 20:30:46 GMT
Two covers featuring anniversary stamps for the centenary and 150th anniversary of the first Brazilian stamps. Neither is a first day cover but are interesting nonetheless. Showing fronts then backs. The first cover, dated 5th August 1943, sent from a Rio de Janeiro address to Northern Ireland during wartime, has been opened and resealed by a post office censor. Stamps SG 680-682. apart from the date, I can't read the handstamp. The second cover has been sent by Swissair from Sao Paulo to Zurich, the first nonstop flight. Dated 1st November 1993 with a Zurich postmark on the reverse for 2nd November 1993. SG 2581 and SG 2583 for the 150th anniversary stamps. Note the very high values. Due to rampant inflation, Brazil changed its currency 8 times from 1942 to 1994. Scan_20201223 (3) by Daniel, on Flickr Scan_20201223 (4) by Daniel, on Flickr
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Apr 27, 2021 19:43:16 GMT
A bunch of Brazil with town cancels:
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renden
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Post by renden on Apr 27, 2021 19:46:31 GMT
A bunch of Brazil with town cancels:
JeffS ......you just beat Stan stainlessb
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Oct 13, 2021 1:16:23 GMT
Let's call this a study lot. In fact it is one of two study lots I purchased from a seller in Texas. It was cheap and is has many obvious dupes..or does it? I suspect it was cheap because the stamps came out of old collections and the seller was not really interested in watermarking the stamps to determine catalog numbers. This is something I was counting on and now that I have taken them out of the glassine and looked at them, I am pretty sure I am right. My goal with the series of stamps has been to complete it. It is long running and complex with the biggest challenge to identifying these stamps being the watermark. I would estimate that I am about 60% complete at this point.
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Post by FDI on Aug 27, 2022 16:19:01 GMT
Brazil #2858 - Motorcycles Souvenir Sheet Collecting modern era in philately also brings a few nice surprises. This 2002 Souvenir Sheet caught my eye in a lot when I noticed the double perf on the top two stamps. Not that I collet Brazil, but I think it was a nice find! FDI
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Post by thegubman on Sept 16, 2022 10:41:03 GMT
Good morning everyone. Recently purchased a small Brazilian collection with half a dozen bulls eyes. One is definitely a reproduction (Sperati as written on the back) the others look suspect. I know that there are lots of forgeries out there. Your thoughts on this bunch please. Amongst the collection are a number of goats eyes, which again appear to have been mass forged! Regards Graham
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Sept 17, 2022 3:44:40 GMT
Good morning everyone. Recently purchased a small Brazilian collection with half a dozen bulls eyes. One is definitely a reproduction (Sperati as written on the back) the others look suspect. I know that there are lots of forgeries out there. Your thoughts on this bunch please. Amongst the collection are a number of goats eyes, which again appear to have been mass forged! Regards Graham You own a Sperati? Dare I say it, a 'real' Sperati? With a weed like that, who needs the real thing? Is it worth more? Or is that a series number, meaning he churned these out ?
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Post by daniel on Mar 29, 2024 2:12:33 GMT
Centenary of the Opening of Brazilian Ports to Foreign Commerce A beautiful engraved postcard version of SG 282 produced by American Bank Note Company who also produced the stamp. Sadly, not sent with the original stamp.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 6, 2024 4:18:37 GMT
BRAZIL (Formerly Santa Cruz ...Holy Cross) The name of Brazil is a shortened form of Terra do Brasil, 'land of brazilwood' aka Pernabuco Wood Paubrasilia echinata in 2016. The Latin specific epithet of echinata refers to hedgehog, from echinus, and describes the thorns which cover all parts of the tree (including the fruits). The Portuguese in Brazil 1415-1715 Parry Europe and a Wider World Page 114 Manufacture for export was prohibited in Brazil and so was the cultivation of vines and Olive Trees. (Not so Sugar or Brazilwood of course) Printing and Production of books was prohibited in Brazil. Scott 2230 1990 A1196 Pau Brazil 13 Cruzeiros Brazil National tree
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2024 0:02:40 GMT
HughReceived Friday last, Surpise ! gift from Hugh McDonald (Many Thanks ) Brazil Colonial Forts 1975 Brazil Page 61 William Steiner Printed by $48 Brother Laser Printer (Black Only) Stamps scanned Epson Perfection V370 (second hand $20) (Black Paper Blu Tak to inside lid ) Images auto "deskewed and cropped" TSF Member "Postmaster GS Stamp Fix" Free Open Top Black Mounts (Second hand) and Showguard Mounts cut in half Affixed to page by tiny archival double sided tape strips
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