philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Apr 10, 2023 14:56:59 GMT
I’ll bet some of you have kinda sorta experienced some version of this …. I’m looking at this fabulous auction lot which is an almost complete collection of Upper Lower Slobovia and it’s only 1% of catalog! (Heart rate is elevating!) Sure that translates into $1,000 (yikes) but it is almost COMPLETE. And look at those beautiful 19th century cancels. (Is that a slight trickle of drool?) The classics aren’t hinged - they are in a hingeless album. (At this point you maybe start to hyperventilate just a little bit). OMG Should I push that bid button? (Tremble tremble! Biting nails!) To bid or not to bid? Then … “Yoo-hoo, hubby (or significant other), you know how I’ve sold those other stamps and have been such a good little girl (boy)? And my birthday is only three months away! … LOL
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cjd
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Post by cjd on Apr 10, 2023 15:26:33 GMT
Bid, bid, bid.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 10, 2023 15:46:54 GMT
I have always held the stamps of Upper Lower Slobovia in great esteem, so by all means, I think you should go for it! Most of my accumulation is from West Middle Slobovia, which is much less desirable than Upper Lower.
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 10, 2023 21:52:02 GMT
There is however a danger that when Lower Slobovia became integrated in the Republic of Greater Slobovia, the original plates were sold to a dealer in one of the former states and heavily reprinted. If the asking price is so low I would suspect much reprinted material.
I advise caution and try to hunt the material over time rather than buy a complete ready made collection. For me the pleasure is in the hunt.
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Apr 10, 2023 22:42:50 GMT
I was first attracted to the Lower Slobovia sport stamps. My favorite stamp in the series commemorated Lil Abner Doubleday (on the 2 groner green) who despite his short stature was an incredible baseball player. Be careful philatelia, there are lots of forgeries out there. I would insist on having them expertised before getting too serious. Rob
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Post by brookbam on Apr 11, 2023 0:17:26 GMT
I agree with vikingeck that part of the excitement for me is the hunt. Buying a complete collection already mounted in a nice album takes some of the fun away. I have bought a couple of collections like that in the past but I also bought them with the idea in mind that I'm pulling the stamps out of the albums and putting them in my own pages that I'm making myself...so the "nice albums" for me are just a nice by product that will be sold and get back some stamp money. In fact...there's been a couple a times I bought the stamp collection just to get the album to sell for more money than what I paid for the stamps I wanted brookbam
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Post by carabop on Apr 11, 2023 3:39:48 GMT
My husband says if we can afford the stamp buy it. We only live once and will only be able to enjoy our stamps or what ever hobby it is we have while alive. I still can't bring myself to spend thousand+ dollars on a stamp. So I go with how much will I enjoy the stamp after I have paid for it. Today maybe I will enjoy that high priced stamp tomorrow I may not. If I feel bad spending the money I am sure not enjoying the stamp so I don't buy it that day. Other days I just have to have it. My medical issues sometimes play a role in this decision also so it is all individual. To this day I have never regretted buying the stamps I have. I too love the hunt.
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Post by angore on Apr 11, 2023 10:10:47 GMT
I am not a hunter but more a gatherer / organizer but I like quantity over those elusive stamps except in a few cases.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Apr 11, 2023 12:47:29 GMT
Your posts are such a surprise to me! I laughed reading all the opinions to either “bid bid bid” or “caution - step carefully”.
I do agree that buying an almost complete collection and putting it on the shelf is totally boring and a complete snooze. I buy collections, keep what interests me, look for better quality copies and cool cancels then sell the remainder. Actually, I bet that most of the collections I buy are probably someone farther up the food chain’s remainder. Anyways, I collect mint AND used and varieties, old covers and other goodies, so none of these collections would work for me. I also never use albums.
Buying collections seems to be a much less expensive way to build a collection from my experiences.
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Post by banknoteguy on Apr 11, 2023 13:10:07 GMT
I think you are right about the best way to build a collection. But only if you follow through and sell the remainders! I am starting to accumulate a lot of dups and stuff I don't want but am not sure I have the time and drive to organize, label, scan, post and mail out to extract the value from the remnants.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Apr 11, 2023 15:01:23 GMT
It’s easier to sell the remainders if the collection is mounted in a good, hingeless album. Remove what you want and list the album with remainders in an auction. I figure anything I get for the leftovers is pure gravy so I price very low to get them out the door and out of my way. Duplication for areas I flyspeck is appealing. BUT That said, you are absolutely right , banknoteguy, selling duplicates is VERY time consuming. I do take nicer stamps and make up those approval books over on Stamporama and sell some odd items and large lots on ebay. But the rest? Actually, I’ve gotten to the point where I just dump all the excess common duplicates into a box for charity, or just give them away. I think you reach a point in philately where you have so much stuff and you’ve seen SO MANY of certain stamps that you simplify don’t want to bother with them - just not enough hours in the day!
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Post by sudbury12000 on Apr 11, 2023 16:58:58 GMT
Having the cancels verified is an essential part of this hard to find country. Many cancels are from River Boats as the Upper and Lower Slobovia had their issues not accepting mail from each other. As my McMichael Catalogue clearly states, " all cancels must be adjudicated by a judge, and all Dingolia,US Cancels are dog license stamp forgeries"
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Post by sudbury12000 on Apr 11, 2023 17:00:48 GMT
these also came up when I was searching
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Apr 11, 2023 18:06:22 GMT
One of the most difficult parts of building an Upper Lower Slobovia collection is finding postally used copies of the stamps issued during the year of the big almost Schism. The Upper part of Lower Slobovia wanted to secede and join Lower Upper Slobovia because they had decided to waive the taxes on goat milk and, as everyone knows, Upper Lower Slobovia is famed for their “erstklassiger Ziegenkäse”, an international gourmet delight. During that time of upheaval, the stamps of Upper Lower Slobovia were overprinted with “ schneide den Käse” in protest. This created great winds of change, for a very short time.
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Post by daniel on Apr 11, 2023 18:36:14 GMT
Hi philatelia , I'm familiar with the L'il Abner and Wilkinsburg references to Slobovia/Slobbovia, otherwise I feel as if I'm not in on some joke Please elaborate with some pictures/more information. Thanks, Daniel
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Post by eggdog on Apr 11, 2023 18:44:27 GMT
I agree with REL1948 about the attractiveness of their sports stamps. You probably have the set that celebrates their victory in the accordion-tossing event of the 1962 Summer Olympics in Mucopolis. But there was another set: the Lower Slobovians won the accordion- player-tossing event the next day and a 24-stamp series was printed that night to celebrate. But instead of showing tiny portraits of the accordion players who had nobly volunteered to be tossed - patriotism beyond the call - pictures of the Slobovian-harmonica players (played through a small straw tube set in the musician's nose) who headlined the halftime show were inserted into the plates. In a vile showing of poor sportsmanship, enraged fans had pelted the harmonicats into submission with Mucopolitan frozen farmer's cheese briskets, setting off the War of the Bagpipes. Understandably every stamp that the printers and their moonshine suppliers hadn't already stolen was buried in a peat bog, and even the mummified hulk they undoubtedly became has never been found. (The King Prince of Lower Slobovia immediately banned the Slobovian harmonica. Today, only a few people know about the gatherings in the haunted forests where the handful of remaining maestros still play their melancholy tunes. I was fortunate enough to hear a field recording once, and it was heartbreakingly beautiful.) Only a few copies survived, and the set (minus the 150-ferretpaw value, which appears completely lost) has been sold for up to $300,000,000 when it turns up in Kelleher auctions. Even some experts don't know about this set and if nobody pulled it from the collection, jump on it immediately. Upper Lower Slobovia is famed for their “erstklassiger Ziegenkäse”, an international gourmet delight. During that time of upheaval, the stamps of Upper Lower Slobovia were overprinted with “ schneide den Käse” in protest. This created great winds of change, for a very short time. I saw what you did there!
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Apr 11, 2023 18:59:00 GMT
Hi philatelia , I'm familiar with the L'il Abner and Wilkinsburg references to Slobovia/Slobbovia, otherwise I feel as if I'm not in on some joke Please elaborate with some pictures/more information. Thanks, Daniel Hi Daniel, Just using a goofy made up name to be silly. No in-joke intended. But, I didn’t know Slobovia was from Lil’ Abner! Cool!
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Post by daniel on Apr 11, 2023 22:51:25 GMT
Here's a map of Lower Slobbovia
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