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Post by NordicTraveler on Apr 17, 2023 2:12:43 GMT
The card was sent by a Norwegian who immigrated to the USA in 1909. (he was never seen again) He then took the boat S/S Hellig Olav from Copenhagen-New York and sent this card from Hudson Term.Sta.New York on arrival, the same day. 24/03/1909. The card was then sent to Norway. But it is the stamp Scott 319i that I would like feedback on. The color is Deep Carmin But is this then type II? It is not possible to see the leaves on the left side, but the lump on the line lower left corner is clear and the color also indicates type II. not sure about vm, but have marked what I find, is it lying? But these stamps are hard to find similar objects online. So is it rare, can anyone indicate the value?      |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 17, 2023 6:31:12 GMT
Many thanks for your post, Egil ( NordicTraveler). It's a nice postcard you have there! First of all, let me say that I have no particular expertise in this area. As you are looking for opinions, and no one else has responded so far, I will take a shot. Please see the image below with three stamps from my collection. I believe that these are examples of three color shades: carmine, lake, and carmine rose or scarlet.  Left: US, Sc319, 2c Carmine, Type I; Middle: US, Sc319f, 2c Lake, Type II; Right: US, Sc319b or 319c, either Carmine Rose or Scarlet, Type I. These are all my identifications, and I am not sure if they are all correct. My personal opinion, just looking at your stamp, is that it is probably Sc319f, 2c Lake, Type II. I think that the color in yours is quite similar to the middle example of my three. This is a relatively common stamp, with minimal catalogue value. For better discussion, let's tag some other members with more US classics expertise than I have: banknoteguy, tomiseksj, khj, jkjblue, JeffS, others? Hope this helps to get things going.  |
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Post by NordicTraveler on Apr 17, 2023 20:51:19 GMT
Thanks Beryllium
I certainly agree with you. And type II is, as you say, not rare. But of course, on such a card, a lakecolored stamp would make the object collectible
I found another card that I'm pretty sure is the scott 461, might be fun :-) Will make a thread on it soon
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Post by khj on Apr 18, 2023 17:54:00 GMT
I didn't respond because I'm bad with color shades. Especially bad with red color shades. But if you put the thumbscrews to me, I'd have to say my initial reaction was the stamp looked like "lake" on my screen. So I'd agree with Beryllium Guy. |
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Post by paul1 on Apr 18, 2023 19:11:56 GMT
here are another couple, though regret I know less than everyone else put together about this stamp. For my stamps .... the left is a decidedly darker red - if we discount philatelic colour nomenclature I would have thought ox blood red - I don't have access to Scott, but looking at the standard SG colour chart I would think 'carmine-red' - it has that blood look to it. The engraving of the left stamp has greater clarity and sharpness of image. My right stamp has a paler and less deep colour - possible 'rose-red, and compared to the left stamp is less sharp - the words 'SERIES 1902 looks blurred - perhaps one of these stamps was re-touched or washed in its lifetime. SG provide for 'brown-lake', 'lake' and 'crimson', but IMHO all three look to have too much darkness in their appearance. For what it's worth I think NordicTraveler's stamp is also deeper and has more of SG's carmine-red than Beryllium Guys centre example. But how SG and Scott compare when it comes to colour I've no idea as I only have the SG chart, plus of course colours do fade depending on circumstances - I avoided editing with Picasa, so hopefully my pix are true and honest:-):-) On my right stamp - midway down on our left upturned collar - there is a noticeable indent (showing white) - this may be an indication of a re-engraving, possibly. No idea of value, sorry. The disappearance of this traveller sounds almost Agatha Christie, but suppose no particular reason why he should be remembered - out of millions in a similar situation - unless of course he was searched for and wasn't found.   |
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