vakhtangchigogidze
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What I collect: classic period issues (1840-1875) from all over the world; errors, oddities, forgeries...
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Post by vakhtangchigogidze on May 4, 2023 18:57:28 GMT
Hello everyone, I came accross the 3p stamp from this series with strange watermark (see pic #3) i have never seen such, so can anyone help me on this? As you can see on the pic there are watermarked lines, so is it possible that stamp was printed on the edges of watermarked paper? Any thoughts?    |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on May 4, 2023 19:27:05 GMT
The normal imperial crown watermark is there , just displaced to the left. I think this stamp would have been at the bottom right corner of the sheet.
……..the lines which frame the complete sheet will usually appear in the margin selvedge and not on the stamps .
In this case the sheet has not been placed correctly …. A bit too far to the left and so the print has gone over the margins .
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Post by paul1 on May 4, 2023 19:31:27 GMT
Sorry, didn't see Alex's comments before posting ................... ignore my words if you wish ................. "the watermark for these Jubilee definitives should be an Imperial Crown. Apart from the lines you refer to, I'm not really sure I can see much else. Wmks. are usually the result of designs incorporated - in the mould - at the time of making the paper, and in essence the wmk. 'device' causes the paper to become thin at that location. Is it possible perhaps there was some other feature - in the mould - that might have caused these thin lines and make them appear in the same way a wmk. is seen - wire lines perhaps?"
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khj
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Post by khj on May 4, 2023 19:41:38 GMT
Yes, the line is intentional, from the watermark dandy roll. On some watermarks, the paper supplier would put their name or some other identifier along the edge, with or without the border line. There are some people who specialize in collecting whole/part letters from these watermark edges. Some specialized catalogs (like FACIT) will mention the complete lettering for some of the watermarks, so you know what to look for. They don't occur for all watermark layouts, only some. You typically don't see them, because they either get trimmed off or are in the margin, as vikingeck pointed out. |
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vakhtangchigogidze
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What I collect: classic period issues (1840-1875) from all over the world; errors, oddities, forgeries...
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Post by vakhtangchigogidze on May 4, 2023 21:05:38 GMT
Thank you guys for fully covering the question of this thread...
paul i think when we are searching for the opinions about our findings, each opinion matters, because i think the most pleasant part in stamp collecting is the process of investigation and as a rule you can find the truth by combining those different opinions, so, i wont ignore any of your words and i always pay close attention to anyones opinion, so thank you for your time and help.
Cheers,
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