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Post by carabop on Jun 6, 2023 22:31:51 GMT
For all you mint collectors and anyone else that wants to respond. Which would you rather have in your collection. A MNH off center stamp (the perfs are on the edge of the stamp design on 1 side) or a mint hinged very well centered stamp. Let’s say the stamp cost you $50.00 usd to purchase.
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 6, 2023 23:56:10 GMT
For all you mint collectors and anyone else that wants to respond. Which would you rather have in your collection. A MNH off center stamp (the perfs are on the edge of the stamp design on 1 side) or a mint hinged very well centered stamp. Let’s say the stamp cost you $50.00 usd to purchase. Personally once in that price range I would prefer to wait for a better centred MNH unless it is a classic that is commonly found off centre. I know that is of little help. It really depends on the stamp.
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Post by carabop on Jun 7, 2023 0:19:25 GMT
For this stamp I’m thinking of Scott #666 kans. overprint. Not sure it actually costs $50.00 usd I just had a rough figure in mind. I have both examples the off centered one I got many years ago don’t remember where or how much I paid for it. The hinged one I got in an auction lot with hundreds of other stamps, so I couldn’t tell anyone an actual purchase price. I just wanted to see what other collectors might keep.
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Post by djcmh on Jun 7, 2023 5:52:33 GMT
I set different year dates for different countries for when I switch from mint hinged to MNH, most countries is around 1960 but USA I start MNH with the 1938 Presidentials. So in this case I'd have no problem with the hinged stamp since it is before my transition date. If it was an item after the transition date I would still wait until a better-centeted copy became available.
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Post by greaden on Jun 7, 2023 10:50:37 GMT
For areas I collect mint, I am mostly concerned with the eye appeal of the design. Centering is what I see. Off-centered stamps are distracting. I do not see the back of the stamp once it is on a page.
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Post by angore on Jun 7, 2023 10:51:29 GMT
I would prefer the better appearing stamp in most cases.
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Post by FDI on Jun 7, 2023 12:14:44 GMT
On modern stamps, I will wait for a better copy of a MNH. On Classic, specially on the higher values, I will consider a VF-H copy if I can't afford the NH. We can find some pretty good deals from time to time for hinged copies. It's all about on how bad you want to fill that empty spot!
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Post by Mr. H on Jun 7, 2023 14:18:30 GMT
I would opt for the better centered copy, depending upon how heavily hinged it is. If it were a heavy hinged copy, I would rather have the off centered MNH. Either way I would be looking to replace it with a better copy.
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Post by ameis33 on Jun 7, 2023 15:36:25 GMT
Let's turn the question. Should you make a choice between a centered stamp and another not or less centered, which one would you choose? I believe the answer cannot not to consider the price requested for the stamp. Same price => centered. Higher price => how high the price is? By my side, between a sound 200$ stamp and a defective 20-50$ one, i will consider the second too... If the defect is not that defective... I don't think there is just one answer to your question...
Going down with the values, for 2-5$ stamps, i will wait... But still between 50$ and 5$? I will take the 5$ and continue looking for the 50$... What i will for sure avoid is a very damaged stamp or a forgery...
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Post by paulc on Jun 7, 2023 22:16:38 GMT
I would most often go for the better centered stamp.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 19:25:16 GMT
I look at the fronts of my stamps more often than I look at the backs, so I don't mind hinge marks on the back as long as the front is perfect. But good perforations and undamaged surfaces are more important to me than good centering. And in multicoloured stamps, I want the colours to be lined up perfectly.
I see stamps for sale at premium prices that have "colour shifts" or "perforation shifts". To me these are annoying imperfections, not valuable varieties. But traces of a hinge on the back are just part of the stamp's history, like the initials on the back of the 1c British Guiana. Luckily for me, most people seem to have different priorities from mine, so I can often buy stamps I like cheap!
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Post by dgdecker on Jun 10, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
I tend to try the best cantered I can witching in a price range. My ideal is to have all stamps I can afford for a country. Usually I end up with the lesser quality stamp to meet that need. I collect for pleasure and not for adding value to my collection.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 10, 2023 22:11:55 GMT
Thanks for an interesting thread, Carolee ( carabop). It was only after joining TSF that I learned from collectors in Europe that it is apparently US philatelists who are considered to be "obsessed" with centering over and above other qualities that a stamp may or may not possess. I have always disliked the idea of being thought of as stereotypically anything (American stamp collector, in this case), but perhaps there is indeed some real truth to this assertion. Call me shallow in placing overall appearance ahead of other qualities, but I would definitely prefer a beautifully centered copy of a stamp that was MH (mint hinged) or even MNG (mint no gum) over a MNH (mint never hinged) stamp that is off-center. As Peter (@peadarruadh) mentioned, my lack of focus on the condition of the back has made it possible for me to buy some very nice-looking stamps at a fraction of the cost of a MNH copy, regardless of the centering. That said, also like Peter, I generally stop short of buying faulty material, meaning with tears or thins or other types of damage. I do have a few high catalogue value items in my collection that are faulty, but I really try to avoid those whenever I can. I was watching a movie on the flight home yesterday in which one of the characters said, "Comparison is the death of joy." I just looked it up, and this quote is attributed to Mark Twain. In many areas of life, I could imagine this statement to be true, but in stamp collecting, I think it is an inevitable, even essential ingredient in the buying and collecting processes. When it comes to choosing stamps for my collection, I am generally much more inclined to make a purchase if I have multiple copies to choose from, because I can get an idea of the range of quality available by looking through a dealer's inventory before deciding on one for my collection.
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Post by cjd on Jun 13, 2023 4:18:48 GMT
Everyone likes what they like. That said...and, for me:
Centering and no short perfs, over all else, and it isn't even close. (Assuming no damage, of course - previously hinged is fine...thinning is not fine.)
If there is a really nice stamp, and the seller is trying to apply a MNH premium, I'm probably going to pass. I just couldn't care less whether a stamp is MNH, and I won't pay a premium. Luckily, here in the middle U.S., I rarely have to.
I don't like MNG, because it can hide a multitude of faults. Especially for anything involving overprints and varieties.
My 2d.
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Post by stanley64 on Jun 13, 2023 9:05:36 GMT
What an interesting thread and I have enjoyed reading the different perspectives of my fellow collectors. Myself, I want a visually appealing stamp; is that not why we collect? For my own collecting interests, the stamp should have good colour, all its teeth/perforations, be well-centred and have its gum intact. The older the stamp or for a desired cancellation/postmark, the more flexibility exists with the self-ascribed criteria. At the same time and on the topic of gum, I am intrigued by your comment cjd regarding MNG as I would have thought the opposite, a heavily hinged or re-gummed stamp would be better to hide a postage stamp’s faults. Can you expand further… Have fun and happy collecting! P.S. I like the Samuel Clemens’ quote Chris :-)
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Post by nick2302 on Jul 8, 2023 23:13:53 GMT
For all you mint collectors and anyone else that wants to respond. Which would you rather have in your collection. A MNH off center stamp (the perfs are on the edge of the stamp design on 1 side) or a mint hinged very well centered stamp. Let’s say the stamp cost you $50.00 usd to purchase. For the price of $50.00 I would wait for a better centered stamp. If I REALLY wanted that stamp, I would attempt to make an offer to the seller. If your offer was ignored or declined no harm no foul. Nick
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