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Post by waynel on Jul 13, 2023 14:14:07 GMT
Does anyone know what the "d" denomination on Knights of Malta stamps represents? Is it "schillings," like U.K. stamps, or something else? I couldn't find any information online about a time period when the Knights would have issued stamps in schillings.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 13, 2023 14:26:42 GMT
Sterling currency up to 1971 in the UK.
The Pound. £. (Latin libra ) Was 20 shillings. S (Latin solidus ) or. /- , each shilling was 12 pennies d ( from the Latin coin Denarius)
Referred to as “£sd”.
So your stamp is 4 pennies. 4d. Issue from 1965 .
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Post by REL1948 on Jul 13, 2023 14:28:39 GMT
Hello waynel, The "d" notation stands for the Latin word "denarium" or "denarius". Remember that Britannia was an Ancient Roman province for almost 500 years! The economy there was based on the Roman currency system, hence the latin d. However; even though it says d, it's typically called a pence. Reminds me of the Beatles song: Rocky Raccoon... Her name was Magill, She called herself 'Lil but everyone knew her as Nancy... Rob
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Post by waynel on Jul 13, 2023 14:53:25 GMT
Hello waynel, The "d" notation stands for the Latin word "denarium" or "denarius". Remember that Britannia was an Ancient Roman province for almost 500 years! The economy there was based on the Roman currency system, hence the latin d. However; even though it says d, it's typically called a pence. Reminds me of the Beatles song: Rocky Raccoon... Her name was Magill, She called herself 'Lil but everyone knew her as Nancy... Rob I watch enough Antiques Road Trip that you'd think I would have put together the link between ancient Roman currency and the former British system. Oops! Thanks for the history lesson!
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Post by wakeybluenose on Jul 13, 2023 15:01:09 GMT
When you mention "Knights of Malta stamps" and "Knights...issuing stamps" - are you getting confused with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) which are a completely separate stamp issuing entity who have been issuing their own stamps since 1966?
The stamp you are showing is just a normal Maltese stamp commemorating the Knights of Malta!
SMOM stamps where 1st issued in Grani/Scudos up until the introduction of the Euro.
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Post by daniel on Jul 13, 2023 15:40:29 GMT
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta doesn't have very strong links in Malta anymore but their stamps have some validity though Poste Italiane.
Daniel
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Post by waynel on Jul 13, 2023 16:38:51 GMT
When you mention "Knights of Malta stamps" and "Knights...issuing stamps" - are you getting confused with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) which are a completely separate stamp issuing entity who have been issuing their own stamps since 1966? The stamp you are showing is just a normal Maltese stamp commemorating the Knights of Malta! SMOM stamps where 1st issued in Grani/Scudos up until the introduction of the Euro. Yes, then I'm quite confused. I thought this was an SMOM stamp, and not a Maltese stamp. I guess I'll have to hit the internet again to find a real SMOM stamp. Thanks for the correction!
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Post by JeffS on Jul 13, 2023 19:20:26 GMT
Hello waynel, The "d" notation stands for the Latin word "denarium" or "denarius". Remember that Britannia was an Ancient Roman province for almost 500 years! The economy there was based on the Roman currency system, hence the latin d. However; even though it says d, it's typically called a pence. Reminds me of the Beatles song: Rocky Raccoon... Her name was Magill, She called herself 'Lil but everyone knew her as Nancy... Rob Hi Rob, I never knew that, thanks for the post. This past year we have watched numerous tv programs about the settlement of the British isles. A subject not covered in American schools.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 15, 2023 4:48:23 GMT
The Pound. £. (Latin libra ) Was 20 shillings. S (Latin solidus ) or. /- , each shilling was 12 pennies d ( from the Latin coin Denarius) Referred to as “£sd”. Which gave rise to such phrases as this: You've heard of Ali Baba Forty thieves had he Out for what we all want Lots of LSD Rather a different connotation could have been drawn when the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band recorded this song in the late 1960s, so here's a 1931 version instead ... Ryan
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