rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 11, 2013 13:32:16 GMT
My archival A4 paper is a bit thin, after dealing with old Schaubek pages, I like the firmness of the extra grains,
What GSM do members think suitable (something between say Scott and Minkus thicknesses?)
Any Aussies buy paper Nationwide? and tips on where to source?
Thanks all.
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 11, 2013 19:35:03 GMT
Hi Rodney
I wrote this elsewhere:
My quadrille pages are printed in black with a 40% grid and border on acid free 65 lb natural cover stock. The cost was $60 for 500 sheets (12 cents/sheet). The typesetting charge was an extra $15. That is a one time charge and if I want more pages I do not have to pay it. The cost includes 3 hole punching. If I wanted 1000 pages the cost/page was 10 cents or $100.
The prices are USD of course. I assume you can convert 65 lb to whatever you use in Oz. I used natural as white was too glaring. I now people that use heavier paper but this , to me, is more than adequate. I mount covers, with and without inserts, stamps and whatever on the same page. Since I use mounts the pages do not "buckle" with moisture and are stiff enough to not "roll" when pages are turned.
As for sources, I know you are essentially in the "boondocks" but are there any local printers near you? That is where I got my paper and it was cheaper than the office supply stores. Going to a local printer has its advantages, for instance, hole punching.
Jerry B
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 11, 2013 19:48:57 GMT
Hi Rodney I wrote this elsewhere: My quadrille pages are printed in black with a 40% grid and border on acid free 65 lb natural cover stock. The cost was $60 for 500 sheets (12 cents/sheet). The typesetting charge was an extra $15. That is a one time charge and if I want more pages I do not have to pay it. The cost includes 3 hole punching. If I wanted 1000 pages the cost/page was 10 cents or $100.
The prices are USD of course. I assume you can convert 65 lb to whatever you use in Oz. I used natural as white was too glaring. I now people that use heavier paper but this , to me, is more than adequate. I mount covers, with and without inserts, stamps and whatever on the same page. Since I use mounts the pages do not "buckle" with moisture and are stiff enough to not "roll" when pages are turned. As for sources, I know you are essentially in the "boondocks" but are there any local printers near you? That is where I got my paper and it was cheaper than the office supply stores. Going to a local printer has its advantages, for instance, hole punching. Jerry B What a great idea, Jerry. I shall indeed, follow up on this route. Trust you to come up with a good idea  |
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Post by Zuzu on Oct 11, 2013 20:06:01 GMT
According to the chart on this website, 65lb cover stock would generally "translate" to 175gsm. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 11, 2013 21:29:47 GMT
According to the chart on this website, 65lb cover stock would generally "translate" to 175gsm. Thanks Zuzu, nice one. Have to toss up the weight, I get Jerry's point about the page "rolling", mine do at the moment, but how often does one flip through the album, now that digital is here?. I collect worldwide, so space is a real consideration. My main Romania collection takes up 4 albums, if I double the weight, that's probably six or eight. I DO like the way a page feels when it's rigid as you flip over. Less pain on the stamps as well. I theoretically could place 1 sheet of blank 175gsm between each album page (holds two sheets) to increase rigidity. |
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 12, 2013 10:58:58 GMT
Hi Rodney
With 65 lb (175gsm) paper I do not think you will need the extra blank sheet.
It took almost a year and a half to find a local printer that would work with me. I did have an advantage in that I wrote some typesetting computer systems and was familiar with printing terms, so I was more than a little picky. There were about 4 "proofs" before I said go. By happy accident the printer printed the last proof with the 40% gray and it really looked good. Another advantage of using a local printer is that they usually have knowledge of all types of paper and sources for it.
If you are going to have any printing done be ready to purchase at least 500 sheets (some printers might do less). By the time he turns on the press and shuts it off there are 500 sheets already.
Jerry B
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 12, 2013 11:15:37 GMT
Hi Jerry,
No, I was thinking of my current A4 thin paper pages, and how to rigid THOSE up.
Printing is no fuss to me, I was a Real Estate Agent for 20 odd years, and am au fait with talking and organising printers,
I have always found them easy to deal with, for my developments brochures,
I am agog I didn't think of that route myself.
Quadrille should be a no brainer, and I don't want them punched.
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 12, 2013 23:46:29 GMT
Hi Rodney If you get quadrille ,make sure that there are an even number of "boxes or grid cells" horizontally and vertically. It makes it that much easier to lay out a page. Also I had the grid drawn as dotted instead of solid. With dotted I can get half a cell for layout. For your information my page dimensions are: | Paper | 216mm x 279mm | | Mounting Area | 187.5mm x 260mm
(wider if no hole punching)
| | Grid Cell | 4mm x 4mm | | Margins | Top & Bottom: 10mm
Right: 21mm
Left: 17mm
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