drmellow
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What I collect: USA and figuring out WW.
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Post by drmellow on Sept 20, 2023 2:25:51 GMT
Greetings, This may have been asked before by another collector, but I'm still learning about stamps and how to use the forum. I have scanned several stamps and ask for help identifying if these are both Rose (US#64) or is one possibly Pink (US#64B).  My thought was #2 was Pink (64B) and #1 was more common Rose (64). I was going to include a third stamp in this color identification, but after I scanned it I noticed a grill, which I never noticed before. I believe this would be US# 88 which is also Rose.   My first time using a scanner for stamps. It makes a huge difference on these old eyes. Thoughts please on scanned stamps 2 & 1. Thank you. |
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 28, 2024 7:46:10 GMT
thanks for the comments Hugh - unfortunately, a used stamp of this age suffers from the usual vicissitudes of life, and on reflection perhaps this colour wasn't the best of choices - they all have a washed out appearance, though the imitation bank note tracery makes for a fine design, but no doubt this 'pink' versus 'rose' is a difficult call at the best of times. Agree, I think it's a safe option to assume we have a 'commoner' rather than a rarity (smile). See my few attached - I've a feeling that the guys in the know use the expression 'cork cancel' for those examples where it appears an upended wine cork has been the hammer - see the two here. I really am an ignoramus with these - if you see anything of interest, do shout.  |
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 28, 2024 14:22:16 GMT
Just giving this thread a bump, as Paul's ( paul1) question from the Civil War Covers thread fits perfectly here. I am not so knowledgeable about the color shades of this stamp, so let's tag some possible helpers: banknoteguytomiseksjkhjOthers? |
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tomiseksj
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What I collect: Worldwide stamps/covers, Cinderellas, Ohio Prepaid Sales Tax Receipts, U.S. WWII Ration ephemera
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 28, 2024 15:14:58 GMT
I won't venture a guess on color, especially from scans. In my collection is this stamp on cover which was submitted to the Philatelic Foundation identified by the submitter as Scott 64a (pigeon blood pink). The PF determined it was Scott 64 (pink). |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 28, 2024 16:03:40 GMT
Thanks for posting your Sc64 Pink, Steve ( tomiseksj). Even though you didn't get the holy grail "Pigeon Blood" variety, according to the catalogue, you have still done quite well. I think most of mine are the Sc65 Rose, which is by far the most common one. paul1: Just to help you get a little better idea of the possible color varieties in this stamp design (Scott US A25), below is an excerpt from the 2024 Edition of the Scott Worldwide Stamp Catalogue. I hope this helps a little. Happy hunting!   |
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tomiseksj
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What I collect: Worldwide stamps/covers, Cinderellas, Ohio Prepaid Sales Tax Receipts, U.S. WWII Ration ephemera
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 28, 2024 16:49:19 GMT
Here is one that the Philatelic Foundation certified (#600941) as a genuine used Scott 64a (pigeon blood pink). |
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 28, 2024 17:32:49 GMT
Chris - Berylium Guy - many thanks for the catalogue extract for this 3c. Washington value 'pinky'. Such v. old stamps aren't easy to id for shade, and as Steve has commented, scans/photos may well be seen by different people as being slightly different colours - in fact to my eyes Steve's stamp has an almost slightly darker appearance on the cover compared to the magnified image. But there's no doubting that the printing of these things was a v.g. effort - and the clarity of the fine lines reproduces v. well in a photo. One of mine certainly appears fairly dark, but as we've said, used examples may have had a hard life and we'll never know quite how they compare to their original colour on the day of purchase. IMHO one or two of mine have certainly seen better days in terms of appearance. It appears that plain 'rose' has very little value compared to any of the pinks, but good to see that Steve's stamp does have some reasonable value.
The French have an expression 'Gorge-de-pigeon', which refers to that slightly iridescent pinkish/deep purple/black shimmer - seen on a pigeons neck - a lovely hue - I wonder why it is that pigeons come in for all this colour comparison;-) - I absolutely detest town pigeons.
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 28, 2024 17:36:02 GMT
64a is a very noticeably pale and bright pink - almost candy floss pink.
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