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Post by daniel on Jan 21, 2024 3:00:45 GMT
You're probably wondering why I'm posting this French Army postcard with French stamps in the Great Britain section. Well, if you look closely at the postmarks, which are faint but readable, they state 'Army Post Office 3 'and '9 MR 16', the date, so World War I. Moreover, the card was sent, presumably, from a British soldier to his wife or girlfriend. The number 3 tells us that is was sent from British Base APO 3 Boulogne. It is unusual in several respects. Firstly, the French stamps, most APO mail didn't require stamps of any kind. The use of a French Army postcard and the lack of any kind of Censor mark. The card reads (I think) "Expect to be moved on shortly. Have today sent off parcel of books(?) including a stamps paper(?), please take great care of.." I can't make out the rest but presumably signs off. If anyone can come up with a better explanation, do let me know. Thanks, Daniel    |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 21, 2024 3:10:44 GMT
You're probably wondering why I'm posting this French Army postcard with French stamps in the Great Britain section. Well, if you look closely at the postmarks, which are faint but readable, they state 'Army Post Office 3 'and '9 MR 16', the date, so World War I. Moreover, the card was sent, presumably, from a British soldier to his wife or girlfriend. The number 3 tells us that is was sent from British Base APO 3 Boulogne. It is unusual in several respects. Firstly, the French stamps, most APO mail didn't require stamps of any kind. The use of a French Army postcard and the lack of any kind of Censor mark. The card reads (I think) "Expect to be moved on shortly. Have today sent off parcel of books(?) including a stamps paper(?), please take great care of.." I can't make out the rest but presumably signs off. If anyone can come up with a better explanation, do let me know. Thanks, Daniel
Mrs F Judd (Then... Dear Ella?)
Bungay
Suffolk
England
"Please take great care of the "Du....?"
Yours
Fred
Could be a boat, a painting, a property ? (inanimate object?)
Note: Inscribed "No 94" , would suggest a regular correspondence between parties, on the card.
Here we go..............
Ella Judd Bungay and Fred
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(created as late as 2022 by author in Australia) Aha! the penny just dropped "Mrs F Judd" entirely appropriate for the time !
Partners in marriage, the wife took on the husband's name in a titular respect, hence "Mrs Fred Judd"
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Post by salmantino on Jan 21, 2024 9:11:32 GMT
I agree he would have had a concession as active serviceman and not require a stamp. Maybe the card was transferred by a French unit to the British Army Post Office for forwarding to England.
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Post by gstamps on Jan 21, 2024 10:12:48 GMT
It was not censored because it only contains personal information.
It is mentioned on the back of postal card... "immediate transmission" under these conditions.
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Post by daniel on Jan 24, 2024 23:40:59 GMT
Thanks for all of the responses dealing with separate points. These are probably all correct  , rod222 , salmantino and gstamps . |
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Post by daniel on Jan 25, 2024 0:01:21 GMT
Here's another Army Post Office card. This time from 31st October 1919, so post World War I and no Censor mark. Free postage ceased on 30th September 1920. This one with the letter Y is for Constantinople. (Thanks to rod222 for the id) The postcard depicts the Chora Mosque in Constantinople, Tukey.   |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2024 0:58:49 GMT
daniel Hi Daniel, may I have permission to offer this to ONEPS or Facebook for ID please? Dashed if I can find much reference to Turkey at all, in my Library "Y" code for ARMY OAS = On Active Service APO Constantinople 1919 only one I can find under "Miscellaneous Marks" (cv £12 1997) PS Nice Card, heart warming sign off "Daddy xxx" Love to know what "wearing a Muggle" was in 1920 (apart from Ganja) Does the "A" above date, signify anything, other than a hammer ID?   
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2024 1:28:09 GMT
daniel Perhaps not needed  Apart from being a "Base Army Post Office" would this explain the hammer ID (with extremely short use) Oops did not see your above post   
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2024 1:43:52 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2024 1:50:14 GMT
linkLocated at GHQ Pera (Beyoğlu)  
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 25, 2024 2:02:29 GMT
daniel Hi Daniel, may I have permission to offer this to ONEPS or Facebook for ID please? Dashed if I can find much reference to Turkey at all, in my Library "Y" code for ARMY OAS = On Active Service APO Constantinople 1919 only one I can find under "Miscellaneous Marks" (cv £12 1997) PS Nice Card, heart warming sign off "Daddy xxx" Love to know what "wearing a Muggle" was in 1920 (apart from Pat no longer wears a “Muzzle”. I guess Pat is the dog ! |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2024 2:05:03 GMT
Pat no longer wears a “Muzzle”. I guess Pat is the dog ! (and not Postman Pat ) Brilliant! Golly, never expected to solve that one. You are a very smart fella. |
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Post by daniel on Jan 25, 2024 3:03:20 GMT
So, Constantinople it is. Thanks very much rod222 and vikingeck for deciphering the mystery word These marks are more complicated than some of the simpler listings would suggest. Daniel PS I've amended my original post and deleted another |
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Post by daniel on Jan 27, 2024 12:43:23 GMT
A post-World War II cover. Machine cancel Army Post Office 432 (Hamburg) dated 18 Jan 1947. With Censor mark in purple.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 27, 2024 16:01:22 GMT
Is it just me or does that machine cancel seem odd? Killer before the CDS or the CDS inverted...
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Post by daniel on Jan 27, 2024 19:02:29 GMT
Is it just me or does that machine cancel seem odd? Killer before the CDS or the CDS inverted... Steve, it does look odd and it may have been misconfigured but it is a known style, at least for 432 Hamburg. This is a page from Stanley Gibbons Collect British Postmarks:  |
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Post by daniel on Jan 30, 2024 1:10:43 GMT
Base Army Post Office 1, Le Havre. Dated 17th March 1915 with a red Passed By No. 1999 Censor mark.  |
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Post by daniel on Jan 31, 2024 2:41:18 GMT
A very interesting cover sent from Army Post Office No 6, Belfast to T W Stevenson in Glasgow. Postage was not free in such circumstances being sent within the UK. However, the postage rate should have been 2½d not 1d. A Krag continuous cancellation machine has been used and a Censor mark applied, The date appears to be 19 December 1941. It is addressed to T W Stevenson and is from J A Stevenson, presumably his brother anda soldier, who has signed the letter lower left. I assume that the envelope has been re-used to send another letter to T W Stevenson now at at HMS King Alfred, with a 2½d stamp cancelled with a Glasgow, Western District Office mark dated 3 March 1943. HMS King Alfred wasn't actually a ship but a requisitioned leisure centre and actually in Hove and Lancing, both along the south coast. It became a training centre for the Royal Navy Volunteer Reserves (RNVR). I explained in another thread here that The Royal Navy could not 'rule' over land and so training bases were commissioned as ships. I cannot trace any further information on T W Stevenson.  |
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Post by daniel on Feb 5, 2024 1:02:31 GMT
A postcard from Army Post Office S. 18, Camiers, France to Scotland dated 12 July 1916 with a red Censor mark.   |
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Post by daniel on Apr 20, 2024 2:47:33 GMT
I have changed the title of this thread to Military and Camp Postmarks in line with Stanley Gibbons Collect British Postmarks. I found this postcard in, an otherwise disappointing, batch of postcards. It has been written by an unnamed soldier, service number 412455 of B Company 39th Battalion in West Sandling. This was, in fact, British born Lance Corporal Frederick William Edwards serving with the Canadian Expeditionary Force. It is addressed to an unnamed lady in Vauxhall, London. The postmark is for Sandling (Military) Camp, Shorncliffe where training was undertaken. Dated 24 No 1915.  |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 20, 2024 3:21:54 GMT
SHOREHAM CAMP SUSSEX   |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 20, 2024 5:16:47 GMT
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