wakeybluenose
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What I collect: GB to 2000 (but definitives to date) / Ireland to 2000 / General WW classics & definitives / ASFEC / SciFi & Fantasy Literature / Local History
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Post by wakeybluenose on Jun 4, 2024 18:49:46 GMT
Can GB collectors please give me an opinion on which watermark this is.... Medium or large garter? Think I've already discounted small. This is a wing margin example of either sg62, 64 or 66a (postmarked in '61) ![](https://tsfimagehost.net/images/2024/08/05/4426ea64545ee6138e4d27916ff04637.jpg) ![](https://tsfimagehost.net/images/2024/08/05/ab0fbe2f7ef14b330be9170b49b8600c.jpg)
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 4, 2024 20:18:34 GMT
Thanks for your post, Kevin ( wakeybluenose ) I have no personal experience with trying to distinguish between these different size garter watermarks, but here is what I found online: Source: stampencyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Great_Britain_%E2%80%93_Victoria_issuesThose knowledgeable in GB Classics: vikingeck, michael, stainlessb, drblade, others?
Edit: I checked my SG Catalogue, and I can found the images of the three different garter watermarks. Based on those, I am leaning towards medium for yours, because I think I can see the small cross-pieces in some of the segment lines. Just my opinion, and others are welcome. Again, this is my first time attempting to ID this watermark, so others with more experience may be able to shed more light on this. Further Edit: I have now taken a quick photo of the illustration in the catalogue so that those who do not have a copy can see what you are asking. ![](https://tsfimagehost.net/images/2024/06/04/73bb8efd63514212e03367ff3cf94d6e.jpg) Source: Stanley Gibbons Ltd. Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1970, 2023 Edition Stamp Catalogue.
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wakeybluenose
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Posts: 295
What I collect: GB to 2000 (but definitives to date) / Ireland to 2000 / General WW classics & definitives / ASFEC / SciFi & Fantasy Literature / Local History
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Post by wakeybluenose on Jun 4, 2024 22:23:51 GMT
Thanks for your reply Chris, I am also leaning towards medium because I 'kinda' see the crosses, one would usually rely on the buckle to ID these!
The medium is the higher CV (£500 v £150) and I'd always assume I have the lower CV, happy to be proven wrong on this occasion though!
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drblade
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What I collect: GB Unmounted mint & Machin definitives Q.E.II Used commemoratives
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Post by drblade on Jun 6, 2024 17:02:09 GMT
Hi wakeybluenose Beryllium Guy I'm not sure I'm expert with a lot of the Victorian items but this looks like the medium garter. I think you can make out a few of the "notches" on the centre of the lines dividing the inner & outer circles?? & also the "lines" look thicker overall.
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