vi
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Post by vi on Jun 7, 2024 3:31:04 GMT
I ordered this from a trusted source within a lot of stamps. Everything this person has sold me has been beautiful otherwise. (not the same person who sold me the moldy lot! lol) The postmark and crown watermark are pushing me towards something british and early 19th century maybe (if legit), but the lack of any ink at all on the stamp otherwise has me stumped. I'm not seeing anything under blacklight. My stamp magnifier only goes up to 30x, and doesn't help see anything more. the paper looks about as dense and course as the cardstock I put it on when magnifying it though if that helps. Could this be a casulty of fugitive ink? or faded ink? Has anyone ever seen this before?   and the bleed through to the back:  |
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Post by Hugh on Jun 7, 2024 4:07:24 GMT
The postmark and crown watermark are pushing me towards something british and early 19th century maybe (if legit), but the lack of any ink at all on the stamp otherwise has me stumped. I'm not seeing anything under blacklight. My stamp magnifier only goes up to 30x, and doesn't help see anything more. the paper looks about as dense and course as the cardstock I put it on when magnifying it though if that helps. Could this be a casulty of fugitive ink? or faded ink? Has anyone ever seen this before? Not my area … but, I believe there was a 19thC obliteration mark in the UK for MARYPORT 519. |
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Post by khj on Jun 7, 2024 4:08:04 GMT
That's wmk30 (in the Scott catalog), also known as wmk49 in Stanley Gibbons. So my guess is that it "was" likely one of the lilac/green Queen Victoria issues of 1883-1884, or one of the QV Jubilee issues of 1887-1892. The watermark and perf appear correct for both sets, and both sets were printed with fugitive inks.
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Post by khj on Jun 7, 2024 4:55:27 GMT
rod222, your post disappeared before I could pilfer fully admire your pic! 
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vi
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Post by vi on Jun 7, 2024 8:00:47 GMT
Well, that was a fun mystery solved! Now to pop that one over on the fugitive inks board and decide if I want to keep the stamp in my collection for poops and giggles.
Thanks so much for your help!
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 7, 2024 8:49:55 GMT
The imperial crown watermark is sideways on your stamp , or do we call it an “ex-stamp” since the colour is gone completely .
There are only 4 possibilities in GB for that to occur and those are in the lilac and green series of 1883
The 2d and 2 1/2d Lilac. And the 6d and 9d green. A few minutes in water and the ink , especially the green will fade , longer immersion and it will vanish.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 7, 2024 12:16:40 GMT
rod222 , your post disappeared before I could pilfer fully admire your pic! When I read collectors throwing stamps in the bin, I have to get outta there! fast. Kim, I'll post it in the Cyprus Thread. Pilfer away !  link |
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vi
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Post by vi on Jun 7, 2024 18:32:20 GMT
You all are amazing in how much you retain about these stamps!
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 9, 2024 12:06:27 GMT
HI vi your mystery item was probably one of these. Most likely the 6d green which I show as two examples one still on piece of envelope has never been soaked so that is the true colour , the other shows the ink has started to run after soaking in water  [  / |
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Post by vi on Jun 9, 2024 20:04:57 GMT
Thanks, Vikingeck! What a shame to lose the print on one of those!
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