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Post by millersville on Jul 10, 2024 2:43:01 GMT
Original Thread Title: Bulgaria/Slovenia (maybe) set of 3
Google translate identified that second word at the bottom of each stamp as "Hello" written in either Bulgarian or Slovenian. Any assistance in identifying this set would be appreciated. ![](https://i.ibb.co/gzkZGh2/20240709-215048-lq.jpg)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 10, 2024 3:10:31 GMT
Google translate identified that second word at the bottom of each stamp as "Hello" written in either Bulgarian or Slovenian. Any assistance in identifying this set would be appreciated. (See previous post for image.) May we have a larger scan, of just one single, so we may be able to interpret the vignette ?
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 10, 2024 3:32:58 GMT
Thanks for your post, Chris ( millersville) I am not sure about the ID of the stamps, but the scene depicted looks to me like it resembles Hercules fighting the Hydra, which was a many-headed serpent. This is a part of a story from Greek mythology. I don’t know if that’s correct or if it helps to ID the stamp, but that’s what it looks like to me.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 10, 2024 4:02:40 GMT
Fighting the Hydra may suggest, the war against Fascism,
I cannot find any country, other than Latin America, or the Middle East with a currency of "P" ? Pesos, Piastre. The Eagle suggests Hungary.
A close up of the Postmark, may offer a clue (even if False)
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Post by daniel on Jul 10, 2024 4:03:39 GMT
Yes, I don't see much hello-ing going on here. The scene must be figurative rather than literal. Draud is threatens in Latvian. It might be something like Dominium is Threatened? Daniel Edit franoise came up with the answer, see below in this thread
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 10, 2024 6:53:24 GMT
I read DOMOVINI ZDRAVO ! Which Google detects as Slovenian. Hello to the Motherland or perhaps “Hail to the motherland ! “ would make more sense I am reminded of early post WWI allegory stamps breaking chains from Jugoslavia. The currency in1920 used para coins a hang over from the Ottoman Empire pre war (so 50p ) 100p= 1dinar. PS , Meantime franoise has found it , see the link provided below.
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Post by franoise on Jul 10, 2024 7:08:14 GMT
Most likely from Croatia A "Sokol" fighting the Austrian Hydra
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 10, 2024 7:26:13 GMT
Reading further the SOKOL movement founded in the 1880s in Prague was a pan Slavic movement promoting gymnastics and healthy living ,thus the naked torso of the figure, advocating honesty and truth to counteract lies and deceit ( the Hydra.?) it literally means Hawk or Falcon , which explains the bird . One translation , which I Initially rejected, is repeated in franoise link “ Healthy Motherland” now makes sense.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 10, 2024 10:17:48 GMT
Most likely from Croatia A "Sokol" fighting the Austrian Hydra
Well done! I had the "V's" as "U" and the 2 as an "S" Your link clarifies the icon bottom right, that the original poster could not show A circled "K" with the initials C.L.S.D. I got close, chose Serbia without success. The currency? of "P" remains a curiosity ? Maybe that is an "d" for dinar ?
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Post by franoise on Jul 10, 2024 10:41:17 GMT
As vikingeck explained "p" is for "para"
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 10, 2024 14:09:46 GMT
This has turned out to be a fascinating discussion. Thanks to millersville for starting it, and to vikingeck and franoise for your excellent contributions to the solution. One of the reasons that all of this means something to me is because the SOKOLs are a part of my family heritage, and without their organization, it is fair bet that I wouldn't even exist today. A brief explanation is that the families of my maternal grandparents both came from Slovakia. They were born in the 1890s, when that region was part of Austria-Hungary. My grandmother's family actually emigrated from Slovakia to the US in the 1880s-early 1890s, and she was born in the US. On the other hand, my grandfather was born in Bratislava, and he emigrated to the US around 1914 to avoid being conscripted into the Austro-Hungarian Army at the start of WWI. My grandparents met at a SOKOL picnic held on 4th July 1916 in the US (I had a large group photo from that event, which I later donated to a Slovak-American historical society in Ohio), and they were married in 1917. My mother was born a few years later, and the rest, as they say, is history. In my family, I was always told that the SOKOLs were a kind of social organization, but I can see now that they were much more than that. Anyway, thanks again to all for some great detective work in revealing the identity of and message behind these stamps.
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Post by millersville on Jul 13, 2024 2:25:11 GMT
Thank you all! I've submitted my photograph to alphabetilately.org/Sokol/1928.html along with permission for its use (without attribution).
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Post by rod222 on Jul 13, 2024 2:43:18 GMT
Thank you all! I've submitted my photograph to alphabetilately.org/Sokol/1928.html along with permission for its use (without attribution). Bravo ! I love it when collectors do that, the advance of information. Yours appear to be of some scarcity. link![](https://i.ibb.co/4mVwQ6T/us-sokol-cind-jpg.jpg)
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