paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 22, 2024 14:00:58 GMT
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Many thanks rod for the additional information - agree, let's hope an expert can provide info re the 10/1 - whilst I have your attention rod222, I seem to have acquired a lot of embossed stationery items - cut squares as I believe they are called - and need a book to help with categorizing them. Do you know is there is anything available currently - in book form?
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 22, 2024 18:42:16 GMT
paul1 I do not specially collect postal stationery or cut squares, but I do have some. You may find some mention in specialized catalogues, but often these seem to get left out and you are left with seeking a catalogue which specializes in 'postal stationery'. a cut square will have higher value if it has full margins and possibly more with a full obliteration, and there's the prize (IMHO) of having the complete envelope, card or wrapper. Perhaps someone will know of something broader is scope. I do see on catalogue for postal stationery of Canada and Newfoundland on e-Bay for $7.95 BIN, says it's new, but I note is also listed as Vitage 1974 so if may be a print-on-demand. These are affordable, but typically are B/W, so any color images/plates are rendered less helpful. Good luck in you quest!
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 22, 2024 18:46:58 GMT
Thanks for your post, paul1To my knowledge, Rod ( rod222) has an amazing literature collection, so he may be well positioned to respond to your question. Most postal stationery listings tend to be in country- or region-specific catalogues, as near as I can tell. Perhaps Rod or others can comment more on that. When I did a search for a WW catalogue on postal stationery, I got this link, which seemed to have a list of available publications: www.mainstreet-philatelics.com/images/HIGGINS_GAGE_s_Jun4_4_2021.pdfEven if these publications are not what you have in mind, perhaps the list can give you some titles that will help you to refine a search for what you want, and then determine what's readily available in the UK. Best of luck in finding something that works for you. Hopefully, others who actively collect postal stationery will be able to respond.
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 22, 2024 19:24:14 GMT
my thanks to Stan and Chris for their v. helpful contributions to my question - all information - including the link from Chris - is appreciated:-)
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 22, 2024 20:19:31 GMT
just a further note to say that I've now ordered a copy of A. K. Huggins book 'British Postal Stationery' - 1970 ........... slightly dated now, but it's v. difficult finding this thing, and some copies have horrendous prices. Understand there is a simplified and much more recent offering dated 2007 I think - from Huggins & Baker - but that too had a limited print run and seems to be even more scarce. Anyway, I've made a start folks:-)
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 22, 2024 20:24:07 GMT
For the collector of U.S. postal stationery, the Scott Specialized Catalogue of United States Stamps & Covers provides values for both entires and cut squares of stamped envelopes and wrappers (U, most UC, UO and W). Postal cards (UX, UY, UXC and UZ) are only valued as entires.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 23, 2024 3:17:08 GMT
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Many thanks rod for the additional information - agree, let's hope an expert can provide info re the 10/1 - whilst I have your attention rod222 , I seem to have acquired a lot of embossed stationery items - cut squares as I believe they are called - and need a book to help with categorizing them. Do you know is there is anything available currently - in book form? Hi Paul, Beryllium Guy (Chris) found the nub of the question. Agree with his comments (Higgins and gage) Questions you need to ask before digging in Is this the Journey you need to take? I see it very akin to say Galileo first looking through his telescope, he saw the moon, but did he have ANY idea of the size of the cosmos? Stationery collecting is very similar, it is VAST As you have found out, the literature is expensive, stationery entires are likewise. I address it, only as items come across my desk, I just like to ID items Do not have Higgins and Gage I have found Australia and The United States (Scott) as the best for deep information Australian Catalogue $230 Australian Catalogue (Old type 2 ring loose leaf) around $60 I basically just fossick around in stationery, ID what I do have , and it accumulates "back of book" It is fun, but do not take it seriously Have Huggins and Baker, but reference it, perhaps 5-10 times in any year There is a Bulletin "The Postal Stationery collector" Good luck in your quest ![](https://i.ibb.co/xF0kLJ0/0000-GB-Catalogue-Stationery-01.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/FKNFXBM/20190301-postalstationerysmaller.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/b6K5dJZ/stationery-2-scfopt.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/Z8KbgbQ/western-aust-robin-linke-stationery-cut-outs-ymd581.jpg)
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 23, 2024 7:40:22 GMT
rod many thanks for your words and photos. Your first picture shows the dj of Huggins & Baker - the 2007 publication, of which there were only 2000 printed - and currently I'm unable to find a copy for sale ......... however, can say that if a person enrols with the British Philatelic Society, you can download the entire book for free ........ a lot cheaper than buying the book! As mentioned, I've ordered the 1970 edition of what is basically the same book - I'm old fashioned in the sense that I prefer to own a book rather than have the information digitally. Agree, that if this was a global exercise then it would mean laying out a vast amount of greenbacks to acquire all the possible publications covering 'cut squares' - in fact I doubt that I would go beyond the boundaries of Europe. Appreciate your words of caution as to the vastness of this subject, and it's unlikely that I will embrace the whole gamut - it's perhaps more a case that unwittingly I've acquired a fair few over the past few years and would like to understand something about them - which means having at least one or two books. Perhaps we are a tad unkind toward these things - I think they look attractive, are just as interesting as any stamp of equal age, though agree maybe the design ethos isn't quite up to that of a 'real' stamp. Perhaps they just get a bad press Thanks again for your help, and will see how I get on in the coming months - have to say I try not to be an investor in stamps, with v. neat rows of mint examples - rather I have a feeling more for the history both of the stamp and what lay behind the occasion, so for me used stamps are mostly all that I need, though having said that I do have what seems like hordes of mint stamps ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png) . Have attached three pix showing a rather mixed/random selection of 'cut squares' - that need sorting. ![](https://i.ibb.co/v3mkf67/P1060687.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/zQfvPrK/P1060688.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/f8yhdrd/P1060690.jpg)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 23, 2024 8:20:55 GMT
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Have attached three pix showing a rather mixed/random selection of 'cut squares' - that need sorting.Fabulous! I love that stuff, That would keep me busy for months ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) I reckon you could ID at least 70% of those with Scott and Huggins shall take time though A lot of "Cut Squares: cannot be identified (perfectly) as you need the cover and the knife shape, to EXACTLY ID the item but at least can be given a year of issue
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 23, 2024 8:38:21 GMT
paul1 Paul, you may wish to seek out "Great Britain Postal Stationery" Brightmore (ebay?) It is a Postal stationery catalogue 101, VERY BASIC but can get you started, before being intimidated by Huggins I picked mine up for $1 to $5 region FREE download if you belong to the GBPS (Great Britain Philatelic Soc)![](https://i.ibb.co/vsb8HQW/postal-stationery-of-GB-t-brightmore-01.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/ZHc9bvk/postal-stationery-of-GB-t-brightmore-02.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/bBdzy94/test55409.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/d7zd83z/great-brit-postal-stationery-brightmore-2.jpg)
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 23, 2024 9:26:51 GMT
thanks for the extra info rod - will now go and have a look on ebay for Brightmore. P.S. currently nothing on either ebay or Abe, as far as I can see.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 23, 2024 13:22:12 GMT
paul1 Hi Paul, (Guessing) that Scott have produced Album Pages, for United States CUT SQUARES (They are not marked ) Mine would go to around 50 pages, which would indicate the extent of numbers of squares. Not aware if they are still available. They are using Amos catalogue numbers in brackets. ![](https://i.ibb.co/BCJZ5rT/us-possibly-scott-cut-squares-album-pages.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/m4T8JMz/us-possibly-scott-cut-squares-album-pages-01.jpg)
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Post by paul1 on Jul 23, 2024 13:41:30 GMT
good suggestion rod - however, think I'll probably go for the nine hole loose black page with clear strips - the stock book style of page - and edit using my own hand typed data labels. Partly for economy and partly as am sure I'm going to have more than one example for some of these squares. thanks.
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