philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Aug 9, 2024 16:38:31 GMT
Every once in a while I think there is just something about a stamp or cover that makes you scratch your head or just seems plain old weird. I’m fairly certain that you know what I mean. How about sharing stamps that fit that description in your opinion? Here is an example. These stamps show each of the stamps on a FDC. To me it’s like the chicken and the egg. You can’t have a FDC of an unissued stamp! I know, not important, but this just seems like a very odd design decision. They must have been very keen to sell First Day Covers.
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swvl
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Post by swvl on Aug 9, 2024 21:21:21 GMT
Strange, for sure! ....and also kind of cool. As someone who primarily collects FDCs, I'm intrigued. Going to see if I can track down an actual FDC for these issues, which would fit nicely in my sub-collection of FDCs on the theme of stamps and covers. (Even saying that sentence out loud is a bit of a tongue-twister, haha.)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 10, 2024 1:21:14 GMT
You can’t have a FDC of an unissued stamp!
Hi Terri, perhaps a consideration ?
They are not First day Covers, just an "artist's impression" They are not dated, just "October 1969"
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Aug 10, 2024 10:39:41 GMT
You can’t have a FDC of an unissued stamp!Hi Terri, perhaps a consideration ? They are not First day Covers, just an "artist's impression" They are not dated, just "October 1969" Oh my, dear friend, let me reassure you that I’m well aware. Of course they are an artist’s impression - it’s the juxtaposition of an unissued stamp with their first day cover that struck me as funny. That’s why I said I thought it was strange design choice, not a photograph of an actual cover that can’t exist in actuality.
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 10, 2024 10:57:21 GMT
Nice one Terri, It is a very unusual choice of design , stamps on stamps on stamps on stamps. Like the infinity of reflections in a hall of mirrors
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 10, 2024 11:36:37 GMT
Another strange pair from Jersey, were the two First Day Covers, with souvenir labels of the German Occupation, Printed 1940 1945 ( 30th June 1940 to 9th May 1945 ) The Covers were postmarked on genuine stamps 1941 and 1942 The answer is obvious, but it takes one by surprise when first seen. ...and the great Philatelic Journalist Otto Hornung, explaining the benefits of printing error, when postal authorities may have been embarrassed
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 10, 2024 12:11:30 GMT
My choice for slightly weird stamp design has to be the definitive design of George V and George Vi for Basutoland, which depict a huge Nile crocodile and the mountains. It seems odd, since the tiny mountainous country is land locked in South Africa and has no crocodiles, and never has been home to these reptiles. the answer to the conundrum lies in the history of the Bantu tribes who migrated into this region from the North in their past. Their tribal totem was the Crocodile and lives on in tribal lore and religion centuries later, long after the Sotho people moved south of the Limpopo River which seems to be the southern limit of the crocodile. So what is odd to the Zoologist makes sense to the anthropology.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Aug 10, 2024 12:56:22 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 10, 2024 13:04:16 GMT
I think stamps that display their dates of issue in the design make it much easier to find them in the catalog.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 10, 2024 15:11:46 GMT
Once upon a time I found a high-value Korean definitive I had never seen before, and the image made me laugh quite a bit. Not a very fierce looking tiger! More like a goofball tiger. (Image nabbed from Colnect, I'm not at home and in any case even if I were I probably wouldn't be bothered with firing up my old wood-burning scanner ...) It turns out that tigers in Korean folklore are often silly, like this guy smoking a pipe and wearing a top hat. According to a Wikipedia article on Korean folk art, the tiger here represents the ruling class while the magpies represent the common man. Gangway, Top Hat Tiger coming through! Ryan
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Post by Hugh on Aug 11, 2024 3:07:51 GMT
'Weird' is one of those words that can be very subjective. We all have our own sense of humour, sense of the ridiculous and sense of what is weird. Having said that, I do love the Korean tigers posted by Ryan ... although I'm not sure if they're weird or just delightfully playful. Something I've always thought weird is this set of joint issue stamps of Canada, Norway and Greenland celebrating the 150th anniversary of the birth of Norwegian explorer Otto Sverdrup. They were issued as matching souvenir sheets in 2004. They were designed and engraved by Martin Mörk (4 colour litho plus 1 colour engraving). There were three stamp designs: Svendrup's portrait, his ship FRAN and a landing boat from the FRAN approaching an arctiic island. Norway issued the first two designs as stamps with the third printed as a tab. Greenland issued the first two as tabs and issued a stamp for the third one. Canada issued a stamp for the FRAN and used the other two designs as tabs on either side. Norway Sc. 1398 and 1399 Greenland Sc. 426 Canada Sc. 2027 Canada actually issued two Otto Sverdrup stamps - both based on the design for the FRAN ... Sc. 2026: 49c and Sc. 2027i - $1.40 (the face value of the single stamp removed from the Sc. 2027 sheet). It's probably just me but, why? Why not use one of the tabs for the 49c stamp? If Canada Post did that each denomination would have had a different design. That's what Norway did. Anyway, I thought that was a bit weird.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 11, 2024 4:45:04 GMT
Turkiye Revenue Stamp. Constantinople 1888 Municipal Cleaning Fees
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 11, 2024 13:34:46 GMT
Other stamps that were weird for me, but not visually, when I learnt of them in 2000 were the ten, and thirty silbergroschen of PRUSSIA 1866
State Printing Works of Berlin experiments in preventing stamp re-use
The stamps were printed by copper plates however the engraving was in the POSITIVE.
The paper used was treated saturated in resin to give it transparency.
When printed, the stamp design showed through the paper as postive This side was gummed.
So any attempt to remove the stamp would damage the design.
Found impractical, they were not issued to the public, but used by the post office for their internal use, and large parcels.
Source: World Stamp Digest 1939 Author : Frank A Godden Reprinted from Godden's Gazette
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Post by gstamps on Aug 11, 2024 18:04:55 GMT
rod222, interesting information. I found on the website "stampsx.com" what the stamp looks like:
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Post by rod222 on Aug 12, 2024 1:20:38 GMT
rod222 , interesting information. I found on the website "stampsx.com" what the stamp looks like: Thanks gstamps best images I have seen of those. There are a few on ebay for sale. Extraordinarily, these have been forged as well (Evert Klaseboer)
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Post by salentin on Aug 12, 2024 9:38:48 GMT
Once upon a time I found a high-value Korean definitive I had never seen before, and the image made me laugh quite a bit. Not a very fierce looking tiger! More like a goofball tiger. It turns out that tigers in Korean folklore are often silly, like this guy smoking a pipe and wearing a top hat. According to a Wikipedia article on Korean folk art, the tiger here represents the ruling class while the magpies represent the common man. Gangway, Top Hat Tiger coming through! Quite an interesting issue.The definitive 5000 Won stamp,issued Dec.1st,1983,was also issued in souvenir sheets,perforated and imperforated: Print: 250.000 perforated,50.000 imperforated.
Sale of the imperforated sheets was restricted,what makes them much more expensive,than the perforated ones.
Issued Oct.22nd,1984. (magpie on the tree !) However stamps from the s.s. are slightly different,than the definitive one: Stamps from sheets show two dotted lines below the tiger,stamps from s.s. three dotted lines. That makes the image of s.s. stamps about 0.6 mm taller than the definitives. The perforation from s.s. stamps also is slightly closer,than of the definitives. As the printing is a combined photo and recess print,colour-shiftings are common.
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Post by swvl on Aug 25, 2024 22:08:44 GMT
As promised... Here are two inexpensive but amusing FDCs for the self-referential Jersey set that philatelia posted to kick off this thread. I love the multiple levels of recursive imagery on these, especially the first one: a first-day cover for a set of stamps bearing the image of their own first-day covers, cacheted with another image of that same first-day cover ....
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Post by angore on Aug 26, 2024 10:52:21 GMT
Jersey issues stamps for anything.
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