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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 12:00:54 GMT
Is this Real???
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on Nov 15, 2024 13:22:49 GMT
Hi ... I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'is this real?' What I can tell you is that you can do a lot of things to learn more about your cover. Don't laugh, I call it the COVERS technique (smile). C ... Be curious, give it a once over to see what you've got. You've done that and you're curious. It 'looks' like a commercial cover from Boston to Chicago with a US stamp. O ... Now, observe. Really look at the details. The company that sent it used a buff envelope with an embossed stamp with their company name and their street address in Boston. There is a red receiving cancel from Boston dated February 14 (no year). An obliterator was used on a three-cent US stamp with an image of Benjamin Franklin. It looks like it was sent to Rev. A. P. P[?] care of what appears to be a lawyer in Chicago. Someone, a dealer or previous collector has added a pencil notation on the bottom left with the date 1861. Can't see the back. It would be nice to know if there was an arrival cancel in Chicago ... and when. Or, any other marks. V ... Now, verify everything. Look up the stamp in a catalogue. When was it issued? How long was it valid? Check the perfs to confirm it's the right stamp. Look up the postmark and the obliterator. Check out the business in Boston. Old city directors (often online) can be used to find the business and / or the street address. At the very least, is it a real address? Check it out on Google street view. Get a magnifying glass and work out the name of the addressee and the name of the lawyer. Search for information about them. This will help you learn more about whether the business and the people are 'real' ... and, help date the cover. ER ... Extend your research. Does the business still exist? What happened to them. What can you find out about the people. Ancestry.com can often help. When were they born? How long did they live? What else can you find out? What did the company do? How might the reverend be connected with the company? Family, an heir? What kind of law did the lawyer practice? S ... stands for Story. Finally, put it all together. What story does the cover tell? What story can you tell about it? The more you learn about something ... the more 'real' it is (smile). Just my opinion but, in my experience, people don't generally forge covers that don't have much value. What profit is there in that? It's a lot of work unless there is a payout. But, if it is fake, it's by examining the minute details that it will all fall apart. (The Judge Judy technique). Cheers ... have fun and keep stamping.
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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 13:34:55 GMT
Now this is what I call it a help. Thank you Hugh.
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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 13:40:46 GMT
Here is the back It was cancelled on feb. 14th ( Valentine’s day)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Nov 15, 2024 13:49:40 GMT
Cursory work from an US Novice Cover (Envelope looks genuine) BOSTON pmk in red is consistant, but I could not find examples of double ring Lots of single ring BOSTON in Red, with PAID obliterator Most PAID were 3 bars above and below PAID, yours seems to be 4 BOSTON did not switch to Duplex hammers until 1865 Await specialist's reply, and/or I'll do some more research on the morrow. Bedtime. The penmanship worries me, 1861 would be a dip pen, and inkwell, the script looks too fine for me.
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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 13:56:05 GMT
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Nov 15, 2024 14:19:21 GMT
Since your submission of other covers, I'd suggest all are genuine The Reverend A P Putnam Scarce Unitarian Sermon The Life To Come By Rev AP Putnam Delivered In 1875 Citing Spiritualism as Proof of Christianity And The Afterlife Putnam, A.P. Rev. The Life To Come. Tracts of the American Unitarian Association No. 11. American Unitarian Association. Boston. [1875]. Sermon on the afterlife by Unitarian Rev. Alfred Porter (AP)Putnam with an unusual angle on spiritualism — spiritualist evidence of life after death provides “nothing new” that was not already found in scripture. Engaging with the reality of spirit life as proof of Christian doctrine, Putnam discusses the possibility of repentance after death and the soul’s progress past punishment toward salvation, as well as the possibility that guardian angels are in fact deceased loved ones. A noted Brooklyn minister, writer, and correspondent of Walt Whitman, Rev. Putnam was also the author of Old Anti-Slavery Days, in addition to a number of titles on related to history and Unitarianism.
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fazeman
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Post by fazeman on Nov 15, 2024 14:33:33 GMT
wael4979, I know of a George Haven Putnam who was associated with the New England Free Trade League. The movement of this league in New England was to abolish slavery and to heavily support free trade.
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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 14:40:53 GMT
Wow thank you rod222 very much. Any Idea if they hold good value??
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 15, 2024 16:01:06 GMT
One reference confuses me , why do you mention “Peter Pan” in the heading for this thread ?
I see no connection , what am I missing?
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Post by wael4979 on Nov 15, 2024 16:16:20 GMT
vikingeck sorry it was my fault i corrected it.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Nov 15, 2024 23:11:56 GMT
Wow thank you rod222 very much. Any Idea if they hold good value?? Hi wael4979I am only a student of US philately, you need specialist advice regarding values It is nice they are a set, may interest a thematic collector, postmarks, embossed covers who knows? Pricing is a tricky business, best avoided by the novice (me)
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