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Post by rod222 on Mar 10, 2014 11:36:22 GMT
Greece 1942 Landscapes
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Post by barhata on Mar 11, 2014 20:49:30 GMT
Rod....
In reference to your post about postmarks of Greece. Those numeric in diamond shape are postal code cancels. The one we can read '812' is the town of Plomari on the North Aegean Coast, population about 3,500.
There is a book that might have more detailed information: Greek Rural Postmen and Their Cancellation Numbers (Hellenic Philatelic Society of Great Britain, 1994)
Hope that is helpful.
Cheers, Terry
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Post by rod222 on Mar 12, 2014 4:30:13 GMT
Rod.... In reference to your post about postmarks of Greece. Those numeric in diamond shape are postal code cancels. The one we can read '812' is the town of Plomari on the North Aegean Coast, population about 3,500. There is a book that might have more detailed information: Greek Rural Postmen and Their Cancellation Numbers (Hellenic Philatelic Society of Great Britain, 1994) Hope that is helpful. Cheers, Terry Yes, Terry figured they were rural, Thanks for the ID and the info on the existence of the journal very much appreciated
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 25, 2015 23:00:13 GMT
Regional Costumes (Used Stamps) 1972 1973 1974
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2015 7:21:24 GMT
Greece Tackling the B.o.b. (Back of Book) Postal Tax Stamps. Lots of gaps, but takes time to build. 1914 1918 1924
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2015 7:24:18 GMT
1940 Greece: Occupation and Annexation Stamps For use in Northern Epirus (Albania)
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2015 7:42:38 GMT
Congratulations Greece ! 2008 The Award : "The World's Oddest Book Title" and for 2008, the winner is...................................... Greek Rural Postmen and Their Cancellation Numbers (Hellenic Philatelic Society of Great Britain, 1994) Hear the broadcast, with a dialogue with the author, here.................... news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7598000/7598964.stm
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2015 8:02:39 GMT
1912 Occupation and Annexation Stamps Samos Hermes (Roman Name : Mercury) Winged Petasos and winged Sandals, Messenger of the Gods. God of Thievery amongst others. Parents : Zeus and Maia.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2015 14:10:31 GMT
1937 Postal Tax
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Post by rod222 on Jul 27, 2015 14:09:20 GMT
1943 Postal Tax 1947 Postal tax 1944 Postal tax
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Post by rod222 on Jul 27, 2015 14:10:54 GMT
1944 New Drachmas, Overprint
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Post by rod222 on Sept 6, 2015 13:26:17 GMT
1913-1923 Hermes (Roman : Mercury) and Iris. Page : CV Mint $225 Used $14 (I have cheated a bit here, I have included the Engraved 10 Drachma ($70-lower value 1921 issue 20¼mm x 25½mm) instead of Litho, to complete the page. Both messengers of the Gods, both carried the Caduceus, Iris is married to Zephyrus, the God of the West Wind Iris is usually represented by a rainbow, The name Iris in our eyes comes from this Goddess. (and iridescence) Hermes 400BC wiki Iris 1911 wiki
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Post by rod222 on Sept 6, 2015 20:33:32 GMT
1916 Commemorating the Union of Crete with Greece Steiner Page 14 CV : Page Mint $500 Used $55 Excellent forgeries exist of the Opt (Crown over ET) ET = Greek Post. How to ID Forgeries : Unknown Missing 25 Lepta issue on this page, only used in Crete.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 7, 2015 10:13:02 GMT
1917 Steiner Page 15 Completed Page CV : $635 mint, $230 used Iris Issued by the Venizelist Provisional Government (Alliance with western democratic countries) Overprints "Revolution 1922" The 11 September 1922 Revolution was an uprising by the Greek army and navy against the government in Athens. The Greek Army had just been defeated in the Asia Minor Campaign and had been evacuated from Anatolia to the Greek islands in the eastern Aegean. Discontent among the middle-ranking officers and men for the campaign's conduct by the royal government boiled over into armed revolt led by pro-Venizelist and anti-royalist officers. The mutiny spread quickly and seized power in Athens, forcing King Constantine I to abdicate and leave the country, with a military government ruling the country until early 1924, shortly before the Greek monarchy was abolished and the Second Hellenic Republic established.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 7, 2015 10:57:56 GMT
1923 Steiner Page 16 The missing 10 drachma Opt here is $800 or $1,200 unhinged. Eagle of Zeus Cross of Constantine Triton 10 lepta red, Hermes of Praxiteles.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 8, 2015 0:40:57 GMT
1923 Steiner Page 18 1924 Steiner Page 1 CV : Page Mint $700 Used $50 Flyspecking : Re drawn issues for 1933, adequately described in Gibbons or Scott. 25 Lepta Grave of Marco Botzaris is "Zig Zag Roulette"
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Post by rod222 on Sept 9, 2015 17:31:04 GMT
1927 Liberation of Athens from the Turks. Battle of Navarino Steiner page 2 Page CV : Mint $320 Used $50 Famous "Sir Codrington" error, (as variety Sc#340a) and "Edward" added adjacent.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 9, 2015 18:03:06 GMT
1930 Centenary of Independence. Steiner Page 3 Note : Mixed Printers Imprint Perkins Bacon, or Bradbury Wilkinson. Page CV : Mint $275 Used $106
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Post by bluehens on Jun 4, 2018 11:36:00 GMT
I have always found the Greek Airmail stamps fascinating. The inexpensive 1st set made in Italy is beautiful.
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 4, 2018 12:51:44 GMT
The only Greek stamps I have come across was from Jeffrey L. Needleman. I subscribed (years ago!) to his Investment offerings. I really should have sent them all back to him, as most were hinged, some quite heavily at that. Why sell those for investment? Anyways, they are nice looking stamps. This was at the beginnings of mounting of my stockbook-bound collection. The only paper the local office supply store had that was a bit thicker than regular printer paper was this cream coloured stuff. Terrible at highlighting the stamps - they just sort of bled into the paper. This was all he sent me of Greece. I never collected any others from, as I was too consumed with the countries I was already collecting.
Will a profit be made on these? Perhaps, but I can't remember what I paid for them! But who collects to profit? Not me!
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Post by Philatarium on Jun 4, 2018 19:03:05 GMT
I have always found the Greek Airmail stamps fascinating. The inexpensive 1st set made in Italy is beautiful.
Although my primary collecting area has been Japan, ever since I first laid eyes on these stamps 20+ years, they've remained my all-time favorites!
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Post by bluehens on Jun 5, 2018 11:26:24 GMT
agreed
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Post by sherro on Aug 31, 2018 11:53:14 GMT
The 1920 King George I "essays" appeared in packets in the 1960's. I found this unopened packet in a bundle of packets. Note the disinformation in the blurb!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 15:06:17 GMT
The 1920 King George I "essays" appeared in packets in the 1960's. I found this unopened packet in a bundle of packets. Note the disinformation in the blurb! The first mention of these is in a 1871 catalog They are essays that come in many colors and paper types. There are apparently 2 types but I have doubts other than varieties
This is probably a modern facsimile of the original 1860 given the excellent condition for a 160 year old stamps. I doubt this is what is in the packet. It is sometimes listed as Type I.
This is supposed to be a type II but more likely a forgery
This one is probably a late 1800' early 1900's forgery and it appears to be what is in the packet. Note the long tail on the letter in front of the P
A very bad forgery
This is also part of the original essays and more believable as to condition. It is a coarse print variety on thick paper.
A fine print original on thin paper
A poor forgery of the above
This is probably the original essay
So we have Cinderellas, certified essays, reprints, forgeries, forgeries of forgeries - quite a story
And I believe the first officially perforated stamps were in 1854 England & US, well before the 1880 mentioned on the packet
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Post by bluehens on Sept 4, 2018 22:16:51 GMT
The 1st Greek Airmail issue has increased in value as of late. I'm seeing them in online auctions and on Ebay at higher prices. It is a beautiful set in "pastel" which also attracts the collector of Fine Arts. I am impressed by both the simplicity and the design. Also love the maps on the stamps
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 17, 2018 14:04:14 GMT
I was going through some papers from my Mother's estate. It's amazing the items she kept. All postcards I had sent her from my travels around the world with the military, and this letter, sent to my father from Athens, Greece. More than likely posted in the latter half of 1960, considering the 50th Anniversary of Scouts (April 23) & the 4x1960 Rome Olympics (August 12). I tried to bring out the postmark with filters, but - nada. Just a couple of poor handstamps. The backflap is missing, so there's no idea of who might have sent it. EDIT: I re-scanned the postmarks at 2,400 DPI in Infrared, overlaid one on top of the other, and it looks like this was mailed on the 30th of August 1960. It always amazes me what computers can do.
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 23, 2018 19:21:46 GMT
Did Greece occupy Jersey too? I never knew! "Hellas" must be the Greek name for St. Helier! [MODERATOR EDIT: The previous post was originally located on the Jersey board.]
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Post by michael on Nov 23, 2022 8:39:11 GMT
Could I please ask if there is any value in any of these?
They came with some other stamps and I have no interest in them, so they either go in my charity box or go for a charity sale/giveaway here.
I've read that the overprints are actually bogus?
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Post by eggdog on Nov 24, 2022 0:09:24 GMT
I think you're right about the overprints. Neither the Sassone catalog (Italy) nor the Karamitsos Hellas catalog (Greece) mention any philatelic material ever being issued under these names, and those catalogs are so meticulous it's almost ridiculous.
Among countries which have had stamps issued under the names of fragments of their territory, Greece is waaaay up there. I guess it is or was easy to pass imaginary occupation overprints through the packet trade because some people would think, "Oh, here's an Ionian Island I missed." (Paxos and Kythira, to use their original names, are both Ionian islands.) There's a fine line between stamps that were issued by an optimistic revolutionary group or a very well-prepared but unsuccessful military force, and stamps that were printed by fraudstars or hobbyists.
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