Andy Pastuszak
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Feb 12, 2014 4:17:58 GMT
I've read over and over again what a bad idea it is to mount stamps on both sides of a page, because you don't want stamps and/or mounts touching each other.
What if you use sheet protectors and just slide 2 pages back to back into one? Other than personal aesthetics, is there any reason anyone could think of why this would we a bad idea?
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Post by rod222 on Feb 12, 2014 4:35:21 GMT
I have done that for 10 years.
Remains to be seen the with old chestnut, of the stability of the plastic.
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Feb 12, 2014 5:08:30 GMT
I'm thinking of just going with an Itoya Art Portfolio
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Feb 12, 2014 5:43:30 GMT
I started using sheet protectors in the eighties when they were only available with a black backing sheet and you had to put pages into them as they closed by a fold which was secured by putting into three ring binders.I have since replaced them with common Walmart sheet protectors at quarter of the price.I just look for archive safe rating.I'm quite confident that stamp mounts offer some protection from plastic contact with them.Face it either way I'll be beyond caring before stamps turn to dust.
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Post by Zuzu on Feb 12, 2014 14:58:46 GMT
We use these C-Line Heavyweight Poly Sheet Protectors at the law office, and I've used them personally. They are acid-free, archival-quality polypropylene and come in various sizes. I plan to buy a box when I get to the point of printing up some Machin pages. ETA: They really are heavyweight and hold up well. At one point I made up "church books" for the girls with coloring and activity pages slid inside these sheet protectors. They used dry-erase crayons to write and color on them and a cloth to wipe them off.  |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Feb 12, 2014 15:07:42 GMT
Price on these very high,Zuzu.Last ones I got were about 15 cents each and have found some on sale that come out to less than 10 cents each.I really am a good shopper(read cheap).
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Post by ncbucki on Feb 12, 2014 15:45:24 GMT
I have purchased many of the top loading archival sleeves at Sam's Club. The heavy duty ones were 200 per box at around $11.99/box.
I wanted to get some more of the old protectors that frog mentioned. I bought 150 at a yard sale for $3.00. I mentioned I was wanting more to a member of our stamp club. In the next meeting, he gave 200 for free - look like new!
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Post by Zuzu on Feb 12, 2014 18:24:47 GMT
Price on these very high,Zuzu.Last ones I got were about 15 cents each and have found some on sale that come out to less than 10 cents each.I really am a good shopper(read cheap). Good to know - I'll look for a better price when I'm ready to purchase! |
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 12, 2014 20:13:18 GMT
Andy -- Before you order, you can probably look at them in person at an art supply store. (I realize I don't quite know where you're located -- not sure if you're out in the boonies, or in the 'burbs.
I know I've seen them at art supply stores that are near art schools, but am pretty sure I've also seen them at Aaron Brothers, and may have well seen them at Michael's, too. Perhaps something is close to you so you can check them out.
(I like Itoya stuff. I had the good fortune to go to the flagship store in Tokyo a few times, back in the day.)
The only thing I would be concerned about with any of these options is the lack of air circulation. They say that even with a regular collection, one should make sure to open it up and turn the pages at least once a year. If anything, the old style sheet protectors that wrapped around the page might be better for that, and it would also be easier to unwrap them every now and then, too.
Just my 2 yen's worth.
-- Dave
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Post by Zuzu on Feb 12, 2014 22:40:56 GMT
The only thing I would be concerned about with any of these options is the lack of air circulation. They say that even with a regular collection, one should make sure to open it up and turn the pages at least once a year. If anything, the old style sheet protectors that wrapped around the page might be better for that, and it would also be easier to unwrap them every now and then, too. This makes me wonder... is the need for air circulation for the benefit of the stamps or the album pages or both? Wouldn't lack of air circulation be a concern for stamps placed in mounts? |
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 12, 2014 22:56:13 GMT
It's the stamps, even if just hinged, and especially if mounted. ... Let me see if I can quickly find an article about this. Have to head out in a minute.
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 12, 2014 23:07:53 GMT
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Feb 13, 2014 3:15:15 GMT
Doesn't sound like stamps need to breathe. It sounds like stamps just need to inspected periodically for signs of possible problems. As sheet protectors go, they make top loading and side loading ones now. Philatarium, I live in the Philadelphia suburbs and have ready access to the both Michaels and AC Moore stores. The Itoya book I was interested in was the 90 page Art Portfolio. Michaels does not carry it, and I wanted to see if an art portfolio that big would lie flat before I spent money on it. Itoya does make an art binder that looks interesting: www.artprofolio.com/AP_Multi-Ring.htm |
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Post by scb on Feb 13, 2014 8:21:30 GMT
Doesn't sound like stamps need to breathe. It sounds like stamps just need to inspected periodically for signs of possible problems. , Dave... I've been giving this a lot of reading and thought over the years, and here's my few cents worth. IMHO airing is a MUST DO activity ONLY if the collection resides in very dry or very moist environment. Under these conditions, frequent airing will assist in 'stabilizing' the conditions inside the storage medium. But for every other environment, it's more about checking signs of other potential issues (critters/bugs; mold/rust spots) and you can do it as often/frequently as you feel comfortable with. For me the biggest concern is not humidity (though I've got boxes of silica all around just in case) or bugs (bits of cinnamon will take care of this), but it's fight against mold/rust. With collection of 100,000+ worldwide items in total (and increasing) it's not a question of if, but where/when. The years have thought me that some countries are in higher risk of 'contamination' than others. Hence I check my Finnish or Swedish collection only about once a year, whereas for examply Italy get inspected every 3 months. -k- |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Feb 13, 2014 20:40:57 GMT
as you know I've been cleaning house I have about 76 old style sheet protectors and some glassine I believe they call them interweaving pages(Scott style)FREE just message me address I'll post when storm stops.
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 13, 2014 22:37:43 GMT
Andy: If you can't find the Itoya item you're looking for at the suburban stores, there's a really excellent art supply store in the Center City area: www.dickblick.com/stores/pennsylvania/philadelphia/This company usually locates near major art schools. That's why there's one in Pasadena, which I go to when I am looking for a good selection with knowledgeable staff. I also seem to recall some advanced collectors storing their exhibits and most valuable items with products from this company: www.universityproducts.com/Also, perhaps this page from the Smithsonian's Museum Conservation Institute might be helpful: www.si.edu/mci/english/learn_more/taking_care/supplier.htmlI'm a little under the weather right now, and moving slow (except for my head, which has started spinning), but I'll still try to look and see what else I can find on stamp breatheability and preservation. -- Dave |
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Feb 15, 2014 14:25:29 GMT
Thanks for the info! Time to read through it all now that snowpacolypse is over.
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