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Post by Ryan on Feb 26, 2014 9:22:35 GMT
Here's a cinderella commemorating the Holy Week in the Spanish city of Malaga. The label shows an image remarkably like something you would expect to see in reference to the Ku Klux Klan, but apparently the costumes of these religious penitents are not related to those of the KKK.  Ryan |
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Post by jamesw on Mar 26, 2014 23:52:44 GMT
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Post by jamesw on Mar 26, 2014 23:58:13 GMT
And here's another. Google translate tells me the top line says 'Orphanage for children of fishermen'.  |
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Post by jamesw on Mar 27, 2014 0:44:56 GMT
Salon Internacional del Automovil, Bracelona 1971 self adhesive - backing still on.  |
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Post by jamesw on Apr 12, 2014 3:31:38 GMT
picked up another Barcelona 1929 today.  |
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Post by jamesw on Apr 24, 2014 3:05:25 GMT
A couple of other Barcelona expos. Fiestas de la Merced 1965 and XXX Ferio Oficial a Internacional d Muestras en Barcelona   |
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Post by jamesw on May 24, 2014 3:18:33 GMT
Ceramics Expo, Valencia Spain 1972 - a little scuffed on the green vase, sadly.  |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2016 19:32:00 GMT
I am not, strictly speaking, a collector of Cinderellas. But Steve Tomisek has gotten me interested by sending me a USMC-related item (thanks, Steve!). So, I took a look through some material that I acquired as part of a larger collection, and it turns out that I think that there are some Cinderellas lurking in amongst the postage stamps. Here are some from Spain that I found.
Does anyone know anything about this one? My rudimentary Spanish at least helps me to translate "No Postal Value" from the vignette in the lower right-hand corner.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2016 19:41:23 GMT
And here is my favorite set of Cinderellas, which just happen to be from Spain. When I acquired them, I believed them to be postage stamps, but was disappointed to learn that they are not. There is, however, a note in the Scott Specialized Catalogue of Stamps & Covers 1840-1940 which states:
"Six stamps picturing King Alfonso XIII and Queen Victoria Eugenia were put on sale Oct. 1, 1907, at the Madrid Industrial Exhibition. They were not valid for postage. Value, unused $40, mint never hinged $60.
"The original labels were engraved and perf 11-1/2. Examples printed by other methods or with other perfs are reprints. Value $2."
Mine are, unfortunately, the inexpensive reprints, rather than the originals. But they still make a very nice set, and I couldn't bear to part with them even though there are no spaces in my album for them.
 
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 26, 2017 6:05:20 GMT
And here is my favorite set of Cinderellas, which just happen to be from Spain. When I acquired them, I believed them to be postage stamps, but was disappointed to learn that they are not. There is, however, a note in the Scott Specialized Catalogue of Stamps & Covers 1840-1940 which states:
"Six stamps picturing King Alfonso XIII and Queen Victoria Eugenia were put on sale Oct. 1, 1907, at the Madrid Industrial Exhibition. They were not valid for postage. Value, unused $40, mint never hinged $60.
"The original labels were engraved and perf 11-1/2. Examples printed by other methods or with other perfs are reprints. Value $2." Today I was finally finishing up a project I had agreed to do for Falschung (@falshung ), and I discovered a more detailed description of these 1907 Cinderellas from Spain, which I had posted about in Dec-2016. The following item is taken from Focus on Forgeries, 2000 Edition, published by Linn's, and authored by Varro E. Tyler, page 289.  |
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Post by cjd on Mar 26, 2017 15:30:06 GMT
I missed this the first time around.
I'm quite fond of the Madrid expo set, as well.
As for the first stamp, above, this is a charity label printed in Barcelona, raising funds for a post-office-related charity. Without trying to dig up some notes on the charity, I don't recall if it was a widows-and-orphans effort, or if it included disabled postal workers. You'll see widows-and-orphans-fund labels for telegraph workers, too.
Your vignette shows 16th-century smoke signalling as an early means of communication.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 26, 2017 17:30:08 GMT
As for the first stamp, above, this is a charity label printed in Barcelona, raising funds for a post-office-related charity. Without trying to dig up some notes on the charity, I don't recall if it was a widows-and-orphans effort, or if it included disabled postal workers. You'll see widows-and-orphans-fund labels for telegraph workers, too. Your vignette shows 16th-century smoke signalling as an early means of communication. Thanks for the comments, CJD! I had pretty much given up on learning anything about the blue Spanish Cinderella in my first post on this thread, as yours is the first comment about it. I still haven't really decided what to do with these Cinderellas, but for the time being, I am just keeping them in a stock book until some better inspiration comes along. It turns out that I have more of these items in my collection than I had originally thought. I was surprised, but pleased, to find that Focus on Forgeries included information about Cinderellas, too. I have owned the book for several years, but had only used it as a reference book on specific postage stamp issues, and I had never realized everything that was covered in there, so it was a good learning experience for me. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 15, 2018 15:47:12 GMT
1937 Spanish Civil War Municipal Label
10c Tortosa Anti-Fascist Child Assistance Stamp issued by the Government of Catalonia
I cannot explain why most of my posts about Cinderellas seem to be from Spain. It is not by design, that much I can tell you. The images I have previously posted here were just stamps that I found in my holdings that turned out to be Cinderellas, but today's post is something different. This is the first Cinderella that I have ever purchased with the full knowledge that it was not a postage stamp. I have tomiseksj and Londonbus1 to thank for this new affliction! Anyway, back in November, I went to Las Vegas for a short trip and paid a visit to my favorite stamp dealer there. As usual, I was perusing his classic postage stamp material, when I came upon a number of charity labels from various European countries, and I was absolutely smitten by the one pictured below. I am not sure how well it shows up in the scan, but the detail and workmanship on this stamp are exceptional. The stamp is embossed, and the perforations are the most interesting I have ever seen both in style and color. From a production point of view, it makes me wonder how they did it, especially with the protruding tabs in the four corners. I am trying to imagine what a sheet of these would have looked like, but I am struggling to do it. Would they have to have had selvedge in between the stamps in order to be able to preserve those corners? Any comments are welcome, of course, especially if anyone has an idea about these unusual perforations and how they might have been created. 
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jan 15, 2018 15:55:44 GMT
1937 Spanish Civil War Municipal Label
10c Tortosa Anti-Fascist Child Assistance Stamp issued by the Government of Catalonia
I cannot explain why most of my posts about Cinderellas seem to be from Spain. It is not by design, that much I can tell you. The images I have previously posted here were just stamps that I found in my holdings that turned out to be Cinderellas, but today's post is something different. This is the first Cinderella that I have ever purchased with the full knowledge that it was not a postage stamp. I have tomiseksj and Londonbus1 to thank for this new affliction! Anyway, back in November, I went to Las Vegas for a short trip and paid a visit to my favorite stamp dealer there. As usual, I was perusing his classic postage stamp material, when I came upon a number of charity labels from various European countries, and I was absolutely smitten by the one pictured below. I am not sure how well it shows up in the scan, but the detail and workmanship on this stamp are exceptional. The stamp is embossed, and the perforations are the most interesting I have ever seen both in style and color. From a production point of view, it makes me wonder how they did it, especially with the protruding tabs in the four corners. I am trying to imagine what a sheet of these would have looked like, but I am struggling to do it. Would they have to have had selvedge in between the stamps in order to be able to preserve those corners? Any comments are welcome, of course, especially if anyone has an idea about these unusual perforations and how they might have been created. Is it OK by you if I send the picture to a friend in Barcelona ? I am sure he will have an answer and if not, then might be very interested in the label !! Nice item. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 15, 2018 16:00:07 GMT
1937 Spanish Civil War Municipal Label
10c Tortosa Anti-Fascist Child Assistance Stamp issued by the Government of Catalonia
Any comments are welcome, of course, especially if anyone has an idea about these unusual perforations and how they might have been created. Is it OK by you if I send the picture to a friend in Barcelona ? I am sure he will have an answer and if not, then might be very interested in the label !! Nice item. Thanks for the quick reply, LB1! Yes, of course, please feel free to share with your contacts. I would be very pleased to learn more about this label. The information that I have reported about this item is just what I learned from the dealer and a quick internet search. By the way, the dealer had many other similar items from this time period all priced in the $3.00-$5.00 range. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 23:47:30 GMT
Does anyone know anything about this one? My rudimentary Spanish at least helps me to translate "No Postal Value" from the vignette in the lower right-hand corner.
This is part of a larger multi colored set issued during the civil war Some consider these as "revenues" as they collected money for war victims but they obviously have no postal value so it seems cinderellas is more appropriate. The set was probably reissued in 1946 with various color overprints and values They are fairly common even in partial & full sheets |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 16, 2018 14:58:22 GMT
These were issued during the 1936-39 Tortosa civil war As for the perfs, I noted this in an article on other stamps with colored perfs (German States?) - which eludes me The coloring was printed as the same time as the perforations   Falschung, many thanks for your follow-up post. I had not realized that this stamp was part of a set -- too bad, as now I will want to complete a set, too. By the way, do you know if the four stamps shown in your post are the complete set? Knowledge is power, so now that I know this, I will keep my eyes open for more opportunities on these stamps, and thanks for your comments about the perforations as well. These are some of the most unusual and striking perforations I have ever seen. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 16, 2018 15:01:55 GMT
Does anyone know anything about this one? My rudimentary Spanish at least helps me to translate "No Postal Value" from the vignette in the lower right-hand corner.
This is part of a larger multi colored set issued during the civil war Some consider these as "revenues" as they collected money for war victims but they obviously have no postal value so it seems cinderellas is more appropriate. The set was probably reissued in 1946 with various color overprints and values They are fairly common even in partial & full sheets Thanks for your comments on this one, too, Falschung. I found another denomination stamp of this same design recently among my holdings, and I will make an updated post soon, hopefully, later today. I have not seen the overprints. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 17, 2018 17:24:08 GMT
Does anyone know anything about this one? My rudimentary Spanish at least helps me to translate "No Postal Value" from the vignette in the lower right-hand corner. This is part of a larger multi colored set issued during the civil war Some consider these as "revenues" as they collected money for war victims but they obviously have no postal value so it seems cinderellas is more appropriate. The set was probably reissued in 1946 with various color overprints and values They are fairly common even in partial & full sheets Here is a new image showing a 10-centavo stamp which appears to be from the same set as the 1-peseta stamp which I previously posted. The 10-centavo stamp is, unfortunately, not in very good condition, with extremely rough perforations and poor centering.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 17, 2018 20:27:41 GMT
I think you'll find that the sawtooth serrated roulette will generally result in a rough edge once separated. Here are a few more examples showing a color variation and overprints. |
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Post by seigaku on May 6, 2018 17:02:20 GMT
Here is a cinderella from the Canary Islands--"Tourist Propaganda" makes me chuckle.
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Post by darkormex on May 30, 2019 10:57:07 GMT
Over the last couple of nights I have started working on Spanish stamps and ran across this cinderella that I had set aside on my stock pages. I did a google image search and realized there are a number of these labels, each issued for a year of the Feria oficial e internacional de muestras en Barcelona. Mine happens to be from 1963 and now, looking here in this thread, I see that there are many of the other years already posted. Do any of our members collect these specifically? I can imagine this would make an attractive and interesting collection.  |
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Post by Doe on Aug 13, 2019 13:32:09 GMT
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 13, 2019 14:03:11 GMT
Thanks for your post, Doe . We will need to ask Michael ( Londonbus1 ), as I never heard anything else at that time. Nelson (@falshung) responded with an image of other stamps in the set, as I recall, but he did not offer any historical info about the production of the stamps. I did find some listings of the stamps for sale, although the images are not very good: en.todocoleccion.net/stamps-civil-war/segell-antifeixista-tortosa-10-cts~x7391529If you do a web search using the words from the stamp: segell antifeixista tortosa, you will find that a lot of Spanish and Catalan references come up. I never took the time to research them, but if you are interested, it is a possible option. |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 13, 2019 20:39:16 GMT
Joan just wrote to me. "The item that you show is a local charity stamp, issued by 1936/38 in the Catalan town of Tortosa, located by the river Ebre, about 180 km SW of Barcelona. The stamp was issued to suport people suffering the troubles of the 1936/39 war. Tortosa, like all Catalonia, was on the Republican/Democratic side, facing the Franco’s army, backed by fascist Italy and nazy Germany; hence, the word “antifeixista”, wich is Catalan for “antifascist”. It’s an interesting stamp, although not rare." I am still awaiting the publication of the new Barcelona & Catelonia Cinderella Catalogue. Hopefully soon. Londonbus1 |
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Post by abctoo on Aug 14, 2019 13:28:40 GMT
Here are some Spanish Civil War items. I am 73 years old and have been putting together some of my collections to send to auction. I thought Stamp Forum members would like to see some of these before they go out.   If you want to see more Spanish Cinderellas, let me know. |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 14, 2019 16:00:41 GMT
abctoo...where do you plan to auction these ? At least one interested party would like to know !! 
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Post by abctoo on Aug 15, 2019 1:29:53 GMT
Here is another page of Spanish Cinderellas. I have a few more to show if you want.  In response to Londonbus1 , an auction house in New Zealand has been pushing me, but anyone should feel free to contact me by personal message if you want to discuss them. |
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Post by abctoo on Aug 16, 2019 1:10:56 GMT
Londonbus1 : I am not wedded to the New Zealand auction house. They have been after me for some specialized New Zealand related material and also auction worldwide stamps. Do you have a suggestion for a better place for these items? Since I am making a post, I thought I also add a few more Spanish Cinderellas.  |
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