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Post by abctoo on Aug 17, 2019 5:29:13 GMT
Here are some more Spanish Cinderellas. More in next posting.
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Post by abctoo on Aug 17, 2019 5:34:11 GMT
More Spanish Cinderallas: More in next post.
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Post by abctoo on Aug 17, 2019 5:36:28 GMT
More Spanish Cinderellas: More in next post.
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Post by abctoo on Aug 17, 2019 5:40:30 GMT
More Spanish Cinderellas: That all folk for now. I do have some Spanish revenues and telegraph usage on 19th Century stamps, but do not know if those should go in this thread.
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Aug 17, 2019 7:35:14 GMT
Very nice Spanish Cinderellas. Thanks for posting these lovely pages. I'll see if I can add to this lot !
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Post by abctoo on Sept 3, 2019 9:40:47 GMT
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 30, 2021 18:29:29 GMT
Here is a cinderella from the Canary Islands--"Tourist Propaganda" makes me chuckle. The fruit in the lower left corner look suspiciously like oranges! It is amazing what one can find here in the Forum.
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Post by gstamps on Aug 14, 2022 13:19:22 GMT
Today I searched in one of the envelopes with inherited stamps. Searching on google I found a thread on TSF started a long time ago. The presentation made by BerylliumGuy helped me a lot and at the same time challenged me to a more in-depth study. (see the highlights in red) Since I had several 4 Pesetas stamps, I used them for studying. Sorry for the phone pictures but I don't have a scanner. I think I have reached the following types of stamps: 1. Genuine stamp - perforation 11 ½, engraved (thin, continuous lines, color with a brighter appearance) 2. Stamp reprinted from the original plate - perforation 11, engraved (thin, continuous lines, color with a brighter appearance) 3. Stamp reprinted after the large plate - perforation 11, engraved copper plate (thicker lines, with interruptions, a darker appearance) 4. Stamp reprinted after the large plate - perforation 11, lithographed (the lines specific to the engraving no longer appear) I hope I was not wrong in my conclusions and that it will help you in identifying your cinderellas.
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Post by gstamps on Aug 14, 2022 14:25:39 GMT
I managed to identify 6 genuine ones.
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Post by paul1 on Aug 14, 2022 16:38:27 GMT
certainly the reproduction of the engraved details/lines - in stamps one and two - are much superior to the others, which appear muddy and lack sharpness.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 11, 2022 7:02:30 GMT
Searching on google I found a thread on TSF started a long time ago. The presentation made by BerylliumGuy helped me a lot and at the same time challenged me to a more in-depth study. Thanks for your post, George. Sorry for my slow response, but I didn't realize that you had mentioned me. It looks like you have done some nice work with these stamps, and I congratulate you on having found some genuine originals of these 1907 Expo stamps. I only ever had the reprints, which I identified by the perforations, and I never had any originals to compare to in order to see the difference in print quality. Anyway, nice work again and thanks for posting.
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Post by gstamps on Sept 12, 2022 7:31:27 GMT
@beryllium Guy I failed to mark your username in my initial post and I'm not successful either (I write with "B" and "b" appears in the post. For us, beginner collectors, posts like yours, with comments from specialized works, provide us with additional information that represents a start for a more careful analysis of the stamps we have in our collection. Initially, I started by checking the perforations and when they did not match, I gave up and archived them in the forgeries area. The information in your post led me to check the printing method and it was very fun to observe the differences. George
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 12, 2022 10:01:39 GMT
Many thanks for your response, George ( gstamps). I am glad that you found my earlier posts helpful and worthwhile. As for how to "tag" others on TSF, please have a look at this thread: thestampforum.boards.net/thread/2657/tag-member-postFor my user name, which displays with a space in it, the key if you are typing it in is to do it without the space. If you read all of the posts in that thread, you will see that there are other ways to make the tag, as shown by Vince ( stanley64), which you may find easier than typing the name. Anyway, thanks again for your post.
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Post by gstamps on Sept 13, 2022 8:33:24 GMT
Thanks. Now I found out that @ before userneme does not work for all members.
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 13, 2022 12:08:06 GMT
Thanks. Now I found out that @ before userneme does not work for all members. That's where this comes in handy...
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Post by gstamps on Sept 13, 2022 12:17:29 GMT
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Post by daniel on Dec 13, 2022 3:02:07 GMT
Another page from my old approval book. Seen before but shown together as a set. Postal Charities 1946.
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Post by daniel on Dec 13, 2022 3:08:33 GMT
One more page from my approval book. Zaragoza Charities issue to raise funds for the re-building of Zaragoza (Saragossa) Cathedral.
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Post by cjoprey on Dec 14, 2022 0:04:02 GMT
I see the cinderellas I mentioned in another thread earlier already exist on this thread, but I'd like to post them anyway as I think they are stunning. These are two of the set of 1945 stamps issues for the rebuilding of Saragossa Cathedral, matching up nicely with the last post by daniel !
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Post by jamesw on Jan 3, 2023 23:21:21 GMT
I do have a soft spot for these Spanish labels. So many local taxes, obligatory taxes, voluntary taxes. Makes you wonder how voluntary they were! In response to Daniel's post above with the set of 5 postal charity labels, I'll show the 10 I have which seem to indicate there was a multitude of colours, perf and imperf. Always more to collect!
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Post by cursus on Jan 4, 2023 8:22:25 GMT
I, truly, don't collect Spanish items, but I know something about them.
"voluntary tax"? As "voluntary" as anything may be on the context of a fascist dictatorship... Items, sent without them could reach (or not!) their goal. You, could get "a visit" of an inspector or police for whatever reason... Law can be quite "flexible" on that context... Anyway, on the item showing a virgin and a chappel, you can see XII century Barcelona's Marcús Chappel (Capella d'en Marcús, for us). It was the siege of the Catalan Postmen Gild and it's devoted to Our Lady of the Good Guidance. The chappel, was on the way from Barcelona's Roman walls to the North (France and the rest of Europe). From the door of the chappel, the priest blessed the postmen going on a, sometimes not-easy, journey.
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Post by jamesw on Jan 6, 2023 3:44:54 GMT
Since we're on this subject, I've never posted my meagre Zaragosa collection here before (that I can recall). Most of what I have are similar to those above, with a couple of exceptions. I'm curious about the cancels. I know these have no postal value. Were they used on envelopes and cancelled accordingly, merely as extra labels showing payment of charity donation? I wondered if they may be CTO, but those I have with cancel have no gum, which indicate they've been used. Thanks
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Post by doug534 on Aug 27, 2024 21:40:28 GMT
This post and the 3 below have been moved here to Spain-Cinderellas where they are better served.Member rod222 presented information about this and similar "charity" stamps issued in Spain and labelled "Mutualidad de Correos" "Aportacion Voluntaria" back in August 2015. The stamp pictured, from my dad's philatelic materials, is on the back of a registered air mail cover mailed from Madrid, postmarked 2 April 1947. It did not receive a cancellation. A quick search failed to uncover information on either rarity or current values for any of these stamps.
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:27 GMT
Member rod222 presented information about this and similar "charity" stamps issued in Spain and labelled "Mutualidad de Correos" "Aportacion Voluntaria" back in August 2015. The stamp pictured, from my dad's philatelic materials, is on the back of a registered air mail cover mailed from Madrid, postmarked 2 April 1947. It did not receive a cancellation. A quick search failed to uncover information on either rarity or current values for any of these stamps. These Spain Cinderella's are not that scarce. It would not normally get a cancel. The cover would be of more value to collectors with the Cinderella just adding a bit more interest.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 28, 2024 1:09:30 GMT
Member rod222 presented information about this and similar "charity" stamps issued in Spain and labelled "Mutualidad de Correos" "Aportacion Voluntaria" back in August 2015. The stamp pictured, from my dad's philatelic materials, is on the back of a registered air mail cover mailed from Madrid, postmarked 2 April 1947. It did not receive a cancellation. A quick search failed to uncover information on either rarity or current values for any of these stamps. doug534Fabulous ! Not seen this one in 30 years of collecting I'll add it to the others These May / May not be listed in GALVEZ (Expensive Catalogues) Some of my Spanish Charity Cinderellas From a query I had in 2002 Blair Stannard (Canada)
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Post by rod222 on Aug 28, 2024 1:41:56 GMT
I have them shown as a set of 4 in a catalogue Mutualidad de Correos, aportacion Voluntaria
Windmill Large sailing ship White steep roofed house in a field Castle on a hill
No catalogue ref, prices etc.
Evert Klaseboer Spanish Civil War Issues part 1 (offering some issues for interest without being exhaustive)
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