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Post by Admin on Jun 3, 2014 22:44:40 GMT
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Post by rogo on Jun 3, 2014 23:28:39 GMT
Now that we know Jack's absentee bid, might be easier to swoop in..............
seriously, I think this is going to go over estimate...... I'm in at $22,500,000 USD
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Post by stampfan on Jun 3, 2014 23:58:48 GMT
I will guess a measly 12 million USD
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Post by scb on Jun 4, 2014 7:44:44 GMT
I'll guess 13.8M US$...I'm pretty sure it will sell well above limit, mostly because if it didn't, it would create huge chaos/havoc on stamp investment markets. And the 'big boys' will not allow that to happen...
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jun 4, 2014 12:29:45 GMT
Investors will never be collectors.Hammer will drop at $20.4 which is about 40% more than collectors would pay even if we had those funds.
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Post by stoltzpup on Jun 4, 2014 13:00:56 GMT
My guess: usd 18,000,000.
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Post by Zuzu on Jun 4, 2014 14:09:44 GMT
$16,400,00 USD ... like I have any clue.  |
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Post by jkjblue on Jun 4, 2014 16:20:06 GMT
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Post by Ryan on Jun 4, 2014 17:58:18 GMT
It will be withdrawn, as it will not make the minimum.   That's pretty much what I thought! That stamp is now too danged ugly to sell for so much money. I think I guessed $2.5 million earlier. That's just slightly higher than the Z-grill US unique stamp, isn't it? Ryan |
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Post by Perfs14 on Jun 4, 2014 19:20:14 GMT
Whatever the final is 12 million or 25 million it will be an indecent and reprehensible amount of money spent on a bit of coloured paper with no redeeming qualities...when I am King of the World I will send anyone spending that kind of money so fruitlessly to the firing squad!  |
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Post by rogo on Jun 4, 2014 22:40:02 GMT
Whatever the final is 12 million or 25 million it will be an indecent and reprehensible amount of money spent on a bit of coloured paper with no redeeming qualities...when I am King of the World I will send anyone spending that kind of money so fruitlessly to the firing squad! It will be a cabal of investors pooling their money to rig the bidding........
As king you would not be able touch those people, they are the power behind the throne..... much like cabal of manipulators controlling our mariontte politicians of today.
Yes, as a matter of fact I am wearing my tin-foil hat......
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Post by Perfs14 on Jun 5, 2014 8:51:16 GMT
rogo ...of course, you realize that without antennae, the tin-foil hat is completely useless! See? BTW - where do you get tin-foil, all we have is common old Al-foin down under!
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Post by I.L.S. on Jun 5, 2014 9:07:03 GMT
rogo ...of course, you realize that without antennae, the tin-foil hat is completely useless! See? BTW - where do you get tin-foil, all we have is common old Al-foin down under! "Tinfoil" is now a slang term for Aluminum foil. Before WWII. there was actual Tin foil but Aluminum is more durable and less costly to manufacture. So your Al-foin is actually "tinfoil". |
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Post by I.L.S. on Jun 5, 2014 9:12:30 GMT
I would have said the hammer would drop at around $25.3M
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Post by scb on Jun 5, 2014 11:08:38 GMT
Whatever the final is 12 million or 25 million it will be an indecent and reprehensible amount of money spent on a bit of coloured paper with no redeeming qualities...when I am King of the World I will send anyone spending that kind of money so fruitlessly to the firing squad! Now, now... If each and every member of TSF put around 100K $ in a bin, we might actually collectively own it. LOL. The problem would be of course, who gets to keep it But yes, it's ridiculously expensive for a piece of bit that somebody used to lick. -k- |
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Post by Perfs14 on Jun 5, 2014 19:36:47 GMT
I volunteer to look after the "bin"...  |
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Post by Jen B on Jun 7, 2014 0:43:34 GMT
Plus it has everyone's initials scribbled on the back of it.
Philipp de la Rénotière von Ferrary (1878–1920; purple trefoil on reverse);
Arthur M. Hind (1922–1933; manuscript “H” on reverse; cloverleaf "AH" handstamp on reverse);
Ann Hind Scala (1933–1940; perhaps a seventeen-point star handstamp on reverse used to obscure the cloverleaf of her husband);
Frederick Trouton Small (1940–1970; comet handstamp on reverse; also initialed in pencil “FK” by his agent Finbar Kenny);
Irwin Weinberg and Associates (1970–1980; pencil “IW” on reverse);
John E. du Pont (1980–2014; pencil “JEdP” on reverse.
I don't think it will reach 10 million, more like 6 to 7. Unless, Steve Ballmer has more money to spend and drops 2 billion JPY (yen) on it.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 7, 2014 2:52:18 GMT
Arthur Hind wiki Hind formed an outstanding collection of stamps of the United States. Like Thomas Tapling, Hind poured the profits from his business into rare stamps, and soon acquired many of the world's greatest rarities. Among these were the Bordeaux Letter, which Roger Calves considered "la pièce de résistance de toute la philatélie" or "the greatest item in all philately", purchased in 1922 from Alfred F. Lichtenstein. He also owned the two "Post Office" Mauritius stamps, both unused, purchased from Henry Duveen. At the Ferrary sale, Hind purchased the One Cent Magenta British Guiana for a world-record price, as well as all of the best U.S. Postmasters' Provisionals. According to Alexander Séfi, because of his obsession with the "black on magenta," Hind (according to rumor) bought not only one of the stamps, but the other remaining one, and then destroyed one so that he would own the only one in the world.  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jun 7, 2014 13:20:57 GMT
Plus it has everyone's initials scribbled on the back of it. Maybe not the first 3 owners though ! Until Jen's post I did not know that the back was initialled........I had never heard about that before ! The Postmasters initials on the Front [EDW] and the Demerara Postmark appear to have survived. I wonder what it might have been worth if the first [child] owner had kept it on cover ?  And to think he sold it because the 'Corners were clipped' and it was 'rather dirty' !! Londonbus1 |
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Post by mark on Jun 10, 2014 0:28:36 GMT
My guess was 16.5 Million on another thread but I don't want to crowd the 16.4 million dollar bidder so put me down for 17.5.
I think its worth a whole lot more than the C3a plate block, despite both being unique. It has a lot more "history."
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Post by I.L.S. on Jun 10, 2014 17:13:21 GMT
Admittedly it made me a bit queazy to read that Hind destroyed one so he could have bragging rights to owning the sole copy remaining! Nuts I tell ya !!
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Post by stampfan on Jun 17, 2014 23:14:04 GMT
It sold for 7.9 million plus buyers premium= 9.48 million.
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Post by stampfan on Jun 17, 2014 23:18:03 GMT
Jen B was closest without buyest premium and I was closest with buyer's premium
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Post by Jen B on Jun 19, 2014 3:12:37 GMT
For my guess, I took what duPont paid for it back in 1980, then bumped it up by the average annual return on "investment grade" stamps since then...give or take a million or so.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 5, 2014 5:49:36 GMT
I thought I'd add this interesting old newspaper clipping (1947) to the thread.  Ryan |
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Post by Jen B on Jul 6, 2014 1:40:43 GMT
Imagine what being under a spotlight strong enough to melt the fastenings on the mounts did do the stamp!
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Post by Ryan on Jul 6, 2014 2:54:52 GMT
Instead of "double danged dog butt ugly" it might only be "danged ugly". Somewhere I read of some rumour that du Pont slept with the stamp under his pillow, but I had the impression it was just for a night until he could get it into a bank vault. Now the stamp looks like it spent a week soaking in a red wine stain ....
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Post by kasvik on Jun 9, 2021 1:33:36 GMT
wakeybluenose spotted it. Sure, the news is irrelevant at my low altitude, but irresistible: Legendary treasures sell briskly, but stamp results fall short of hopes. I never really got the point of the British Guiana One Cent Magenta. Yes, it's historic and unique, but it sure ain't pretty, 'danged ugly' as Ryan preferred. Well, let the rich do as they will. Now Stuart Weitzman goes down in philatelic history as the goof who defaced a treasure and paid a price. Some writers excuse him—he wasn’t the first—but they’re trying too hard. My compassionate side would offer him a drink.
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